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I suspect this is the point where someone will remind us all that if you travel to a rugby match as a home supporter from outside a 5 mile radius of the DW, then you shouldnt count towards the crowd figure.
Why is it a good post ? As everyone can see It has NO RELEVANCE WHATSOEVER to the subject matter being discussed
Do you two need a hand moving those goalposts?
Im not interested in changing the subject thank you, Id rather you responded to the facts I have presented on this issue rather than coming out with a load of random speculation about something else
The whole inference from the post which mutty tried to embarrass Griff over was that Wigan Warriors get behind their team when in danger of relegation or darkest days or when the going gets tough or whatever emotive language you want to call finishing between 6th & 8th for a few years in a league which you cant even get relegated from now at all whereas Wigan Athletic fans desert their team when faced with similar circumstances.
Let’s have a recap of the facts which I have presented to prove that you are talking BS :
1 Using Muttys own facts which he used to prove that Wigan Warriors crowd increased dramatically when they faced ‘dark days’, the average attendance only actually went up by 203 for the last three months of this terrible, dreadful season ( where WW actually finished 8th ) so much for getting behind the team in it’s period of adversity.
2 I then pointed out the respective rise in Wigan Athletics attendances over a similar period when faced with a similar situation, it went up by 1465, seven times more. Your attempts to state this is down to away fans in home ends is speculative, incorrect and quite frankly ludicrous
3 During this period of so called adversity Wigan Warriors generally finished between 6th-8th which in a 12/14 team league Im sure that everyone would agree is no worse than mid-table, hardly any need for all the dramatics around how tough RL fans in the town have had it. Try finishing 17th, 14th, 11th ( ooh the halcyon days ), 16th & 16th for the past five years and never more than a few points away from relegation and let’s see how resolute your fans are
4 But we know the answer to this, attendances dropped below 5k. When Wigan Warriors were actually relegated they posted such crowds as 3216 v Huyton or 3146 at home to Dewsbury.Again, these are facts and facts knock speculation into a cocked hat. Maybe one day you will come back with some :?
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Over to Mutty and egg mon
Why has the worlds bestest thugby team been shunted onto BBC2 ?
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Just to prove your point, has anyone else spotted what will be on BBC1 on Saturday from 5pm i.e. during the majority of the screening of our game on BBC2? An early evening feature filme presentation of Pixar family favourite, Cars. Seriously
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Where have I moved the goal posts? Ive stated the FACT that both teams get the same number of home fans. Like it or not its true.
Where have I moved the goal posts? I’ve stated the FACT that both teams get the same number of home fans. Like it or not its true.The fact that some chubby has even suggested that is music to my ears.
Some chubster mates I go out with still insist Wigan is red.
Now at least we can confirm at a minimum, its turning blue. :happy-partydance:From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!I thought it started turning blue in 2005.
At this rate, the two blokes waiting for Godot would get their wish quicker.
Where have I moved the goal posts? I’ve stated the FACT that both teams get the same number of home fans. Like it or not its true.
The fact that some chubby has even suggested that is music to my ears.
Some chubster mates I go out with still insist Wigan is red.
Now at least we can confirm at a minimum, its turning blue. :happy-partydance: [/quote]Problem is jr that egg is int minority on chubbieville
Yet the fact remains, egg chasing is sh*t.
Support a decent sport.
I do mate. The Wigan Warrington game on Sat will far surpass any other game in any sport this year imo.[/quote]
I think you got this spot on Egg. Sadly, the Warrington fans on here will just have to take consolation in being 2nd best in a marvellous advertisement for sport.
Where have I moved the goal posts? Ive stated the FACT that both teams get the same number of home fans. Like it or not its true.Dearie me,this is fun :angry-banghead:
Nobody was talking about the number of home fans both teams get now, the scenario your friend was referring to was in 2006 & I quote the club’s ‘darkest hour’ (sic)
You are probably right about having the same number of home fans now but you are comparing a team that has just won the league versus a team that finished 16th in it’s league for the 2nd consecutive year running & spent most of that season in the relegation zone.
You are falling into the trap every rugby fan has done recently of coming crawling out of the woodwork following a period of success after five years in hibernation. You all want to discuss crowds now you’ve won something. Don’t you find this a tad hypocritical ?Lets go back to the darkest hour of 2006 then :
Wigan Warriors finished 8th average attendance 14445
Wigan Athletic finished 17th average attendance 18158I would make that about 13000 home fans for the rugby & 15000 for Wigan Athletic
What sort of crowds do you think Wigan Athletic would get if they were top of the Premier League or reigning Premier league champions ?
Or if season tickets were under £200 and £26 for kids ?
And counted whether they turn up or not ?
Or every single home game wasn’t beamed into nearly every pub in the borough or available on the net ?
Or they gave away an entire stand once a season,that little stunt alone ups the average by over 400 ?
Or we had a team that won more than 5 games out of 19 at home all season ?You are comparing crowds between a team who is reigning champions of its league with one that has spent several years – not a ‘ darkest hour ‘ or stretching it at best a few months – battling relegation
All I did was revert back to a period where Wigan Rugby genuinely spent a few years in the doldrums,battling relegation & ultimately getting relegated & confirmed that their crowds were under 5000
So thanks for your completely random FACT. I have now helped this along by putting it in context for you by providing a relevant comparison.
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In 2005 with the Good Friday home fixture (usually the highest gate of the season) the average was 13891.
In 2006 when Wigan were bottom of the league for the majority of the year and in danger of being relegated for even longer than that (Catalans couldn’t go down) plus the Good Friday game being away and the Saints crowd dropping 6k on the year before the average was 14445.
I’d say that is evidence of the fans being behind the team in a relegation battle regardless of by how many.
Yes Latics crowds have grown in the same instance and I’m glad they have. The atmosphere against West Ham is one I would like to see week in week out.
Other than the 2005 season the crowds of both sides have been around about the same number with Latics understandably getting more for the first few years in the PL. Now I think we’ve probably hit our PL hardcore of 13k. Should we ever go down I’d expect that to hit around 11k.
Anyway, roll on August 13th.
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