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  • in reply to: Revolving door time #205709
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      S.Smith wasn’t offered a new contract so it’s not of his making it’s the manager and the powers above. What you’d call as a slight push out the door.

      I just hope A.Robinson leaves Fulham along with Gelhardt and any windfall is to bring in a few experienced players otherwise freebies and loans will mean we’ll float around like driftwood.

      Next year will be super super tough probably the hardest L1 I can remember in a long time. We have Luton (still with parachute payments) Plymouth and Cardiff coming down along with Bradford coming up plus the 3 that fail in the play offs.

      Without investment and strengthening the squad we’ll struggle like hell to even make the top half of the table.

      I honestly thought after Danson’s takeover that this coming season the  2025-2026 would be our year to challenge for a top 6 and possible promotion.

      All’s we’ve achieved is to slash the running cost and sell our best players. I can tell you this much, listening to the way Lowe talks no bullsh*t if the funds aren’t there he’ll let them above know

      in reply to: Alot of work to be done #205667
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        Were clearly light years behind most sides in the attacking department. I just want to home in on Cze.

        Here goes with tin hat on,
        I personally think theres a player there in the making. Now lots will slate him and say not good enough but what do you base that on ?, 5 minutes here and there ?.
        There’s talk he’s had off the field issues so I’ll have it a guess that his head hasn’t been in the best of places.

        He needs a run of games and strengthening up then I’m sure he’ll bag a few goals for us.

        Taylor ? he missed 3 glorious chances which highlights my thoughts that he’s not a forward. He does everything spot on up to the point he’s asked to bag a goal and he fluffs his lines.

        Now don’t go off on one saying Cze’s not good enough, neither was Luke Robinson that was till the penny dropped and now he’s gradually making that left back position his own.

        Cze needs games like Lang and he needs someone just up sides or behind him none of this loan striker hit the tall lad bollox it just won’t work. If Cze does get his chance and he’s helped up top I promise you now this lad will get us goals, we have to be patient because basically we have no other fookin choice.

        As for those screaming out:- “We need a proven goal scorer” really ? so it’s just us??
        Reality check guys FFS serious reality check, every club in Britain wants exactly the same thing.

        Ok, so who? Who’d come to Wigan after say bagging say 15-20 the season before. Which proven goal scorer would come to Wigan right now on peanut dollar bills?.

        Cze needs to be fast tracked like Tickle and Hughes were, thrown in regular into the deep end. If we can get some service to Cze in that final third (please don’t say from Owen Dale please) then Cze will come on leaps n bounds.

        I’ve seen him a few times and he comes across as a fiery fooker and doesn’t mind getting stuck in but he’s not a loan striker type player hit the big guy up front, he’s a 100% finisher.

        We have to utilise the next crop of young lads the likes of Tom Watson Luke Robinson Carragher plus add a couple of experienced players.

        Not sure how much truths in it but Ledson from Preston might be signing which would be a good start in the middle.

        The way I compare it is,
        Lowe’s got to create 5 star Michelin style cuisine from yellow sticker end of isle food from Tesco’s. But in our case Lowe “HAS” to use our own ingredients whether we like it or not or whether their ready, they have to be given time on the field now and learn the hard way.

        I just hope Lowe doesn’t Paul Cook it and wrap all the young lads in so much cotton wool you could roll them down Snowdon and they’d end up at the bottom unmarked.

        This window is crucial, new manager, all the big earners gone and we need Danson to back Lowe. No good saying self sufficient sh!te. Were stripped back to the bare bones on and off the field it’s that far stripped back were to the skeleton. We need rebuilding first self sufficient later Mr Danson.
        Dip into your billions and gamble have some fun, you can’t take it with you. Sometimes life’s about carefree risk and see were it gets you.

        I bet if you asked Dave Whelan whats been your biggest achievement in your lifetime?, Whelan’s Supermarket ? JJB’s?, DW?? they won’t be top, lifting the FA Cup will no doubt be above any business venture.

        Get it spent Danson

        in reply to: Alot of work to be done #205658
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          It was a tale of 2 Half’s were Blackpool pinned us down for the vast majority of the 2nd half.

          I’m not quite sure why never left at least one player nearer to the half way line. We basically had all 10 outfield players firmly behind the ball.
          For me Taylor needed to remain on or tell Cze stay up just for the clearance out. This would have meant 2 Blackpool players would have to mark whoever but we preferred to try and soak up 45 minutes of pressure well till Owen Dale did his Sunday League tackle impression.

          Back to us,
          there’s the raw making of a side that seriously needs strengthening and there’s quite a few that need to be shown the door. We’re doing everything right at the back but that final 3rd is shockingly bad.

          In all my years I don’t think I’ve ever seen us so lacking up front both on the pitch and on the bench. But to be pinned down for so long with little or no outlet was worrying.

          I just hope Gelhardt and A.Robinson get sold then Danson has no excuse otherwise it’s soup kitchen time next year for players.

          I’ve not a clue who and what we’ve got in the youth but we will have to fast track them next year that’s if Danson hides his wallet.

          Will we make an attempt to sign Taylor ? I’ll say a big fat no simply because we’ve added value to the lad. This “We’ll make you money” on us developing other teams players needs to be cutback next season.

          And Tickle ? I think that the last time we’ve seen him put a Latics shirt on at home

          in reply to: Job Done! #205625
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            He’s achieved his goal which is L1 football next year but he’s also managed to turn us into a bullet proof defensive outfit as well conceding only 2 goals in our last 6 games.

            I think we might be in for a few surprises as to who leaves and who stays and who he offers new contracts to in the summer.

            There was a social media post (slip of the tongue) regarding Ledson from Preston who’s turned down a new contract at Preston and a link with a forward but speculation will be rife throughout the summer.

            Danson needs to back Lowe, no one’s saying go mad go stupid but if we’re going to push for minimum top 6 we need signings.

            Lets not forget we’ve 2 ball playing midfielders due back next season so priority must be a forward. It’s as clear as day we need someone in.

            Now the $10 million dollar question, have we turned Taylor into a player we cannot afford??. I’m sure he will have raised a few eyebrows from a few Championship clubs but as an Andy Lidell type player playing off a forward he’s a must buy for us.

            in reply to: Alot of work to be done #205611
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              When Danson took over he had the awful job of funding a big wage for the first 12 months till the window released them all.
              That summer should have been were we built a side allowing Maloney to bring in a few 1/2 decent experienced players and integrate the younger lads into a side
              This never happened and that’s were the problems started for Maloney.

              Roll on soon to be year 3, new manager, and a summer transfer window nearly upon us. 15 players contracts or loans all up what will happen ?.

              Well we can either go one of two ways:-
              Bring in 3 or 4 experienced players and bring our own young lads up to the table
              Or
              Fill the squad up with unknown u20 lads on the cheap who’ve never played a competitive league football match and click our heels 3 times while wishing for promotion.

              At the end of the day the choice lies solely in the hands of the owners, slight risk on a few decent experienced players or cheap n cheerful and give someone else’s youth the experience

              in reply to: Alot of work to be done #205603
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                I spoke with a couple of Preston fans I know and I asked them about Lowe.
                They kinda didn’t slate him nor praise him.
                They said, he’ll get you results but at Preston he blew hot and cold but they said one thing

                “It won’t look pretty, alot of back forth left and right football”.

                They both sat on the fence with Lowe saying, when he left they were unhappy about his departure but weren’t overly disappointed.

                I keep saying it, I’ll hold judgement when were in 2026 and after a couple of transfer windows and when “his” players and style are all on show.
                Lowe has to be given funds and time because this L1 is going to get super hard next year when a possible Hull Cardiff Luton Derby Plymouth come down

                in reply to: Alot of work to be done #205599
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                  I understand we’ve also had 2 ball playing midfielders for a large chunk of the season missing then Chambers and Goodwin (who never got going) but that’s were the owner should now step in.

                  Defence ?, yep we’ve sorted that and look solid. Robinson’s come in and put many doubters in check but we desperately need a forward.

                  There’s half a dozen who’s contracts are up who Lowe needs to make big decisions on, Robinson, S.Smith S.Sessegnon, McHugh, McManaman, Silko Thomas, then the burning question,
                  Have we made Taylor into the player we now cannot afford ??.

                  There’s a tough tough window coming Lowes way, I just hope we don’t Paul Cook it and load up with a sh*toad of over 30 journeymen who are looking for their final 2 year payday

                  in reply to: Nowt Special #205577
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                    If Maloney had of been in charge we’d have lost Saturday. And why?, he would have made 5 subs before 60 minutes totally upsetting the whole balance of the side.
                    Lowe made one all game keeping the momentum going and not that he was always on the players backs demanding that bit extra.
                    My view is, if a player put his hands on his hips under Maloney, Maloney would sofely take then off, were as Lowe demands effort and concentration.

                    For me Mellish needs to be in the middle every week. He stood up to all the intimation and bullying tactics all day and Asamoah Jr will get better and better, he reminds me ABIT like Valencia raw but blistering pace something we’ve lacked in the past few years.

                    We didn’t miss S.Smith or Norburn tbh so for me, as long as Lowes given some coin in the summer and him at the helm demanding we will be ok

                    in reply to: Exeter #205557
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                      I’m not quite sure how Owen Dale’s starting every game under Lowe, he couldn’t go past me, can’t tackle can’t defend. If Lowe signs him then he’s watching the game through googly specs eyeballs on springs because Dale offers zilch he’s the weakest link.

                      As I previously pointed out, if you can’t get into an Oxford side you should have heard a tiny tinkling of a warning bell before signing him on loan.

                      My point been that, how the hell could Maloney scouted him along with Goodwin and a good few others before signing considering they weren’t playing for their respective clubs before we signed them.

                      Maloney no doubt had no money no say when it comes to signings and he’s dropped a suttle hint this might be true in a recent interview after his sacking that everything’s not so rosey in the Latics garden, far from it.

                      I just hope Lowe has been given concrete set in stone assurances that funds will be made available in the summer because if he doesn’t get given then we will be looking at the 2025-2026 been our Groundhog Season, loans and unknowns that aren’t even minimum L1 level.

                      It makes you wonder whether the Championship is actually Danson’s target or if he’s happy to spend zero and hover here for the foreseeable future till were sold “again”

                      in reply to: Well I never #205539
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                        Tonight is super important, I’d go as far as saying it could define the season outcome.

                        A win will make it very hard for other sides to claw us back.
                        Let’s not say to the players “Take it game by game”, right now we don’t need that sh*t, whats needed to be said is tonight is a must win game.

                        We also have Burton & Shrewsbury all be it away which I personally think is better actually better for us

                        1 win 1 draw will see us right and let’s face it, we are playing 21st & 24th in the league so.

                        Lowe has probably the hardest task since Martinez took over and was told to clear the decks but Lowes success won’t be determined by his ability it will be defined by the colour of Danson’s money.
                        We need better players, players with prospects to sell on and a few older decent players to gel it.

                        I don’t think Lowes thought this one out. Now he’s had a few weeks to assess the task at hand I bet his first words were

                        W.T.F?

                        in reply to: Well I never #205538
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                          Tonight is super important, a win will make it very hard for others to pin us back.
                          Let’s not say “Take it game by game” we don’t need that sh*t, what we need is to target games like the Exeter, Burton & Shrewsbury all be it away which I personally think is better for us

                          1 win 1 draw will see us right and let’s face it, we’re playing 21st & 24th in the league so . . . but tonight is huge

                          in reply to: Well I never #205535
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                            The first thing I noticed with Lowe is a difference of opinion. Take Sibbick, he was one of the first on the team sheet along with Mellish but Lowe seems to have frozen the pair out.

                            Now I’m not slating Lowe I just saying that both managers see or prefer a different style/type of player.

                            Lowe has zero chance with this current set of players. I’m pretty much sure most weren’t even Maloney’s choices.

                            My gripe is this season after the mass exodus of the season before that we should have been the building season but it’s more like a builder who demolishes a property then sits on the land.

                            This season gone was all about spending nothing, on the cheap, and the club picking the players. I mean come on, seriously, how the fook could Maloney scout or know anything about his signings when a fair few were kids with little league experience.

                            For me last season was a wasted season, we’ve built fook all bar we dumped a manager who got no support.

                            Yes Maloney had his faults I never truly thought he is managerial tackle but that doesn’t mean I didn’t want him to succeed he a Latics legend for Christ sake.

                            Maloney’s gone now so it’s down to Lowe to make it work but all’s I can say is, if Danson decides to spend nothing then we’ll be going through managers as fast as a pack of 24 Senokot after a madras.

                            Lowe needs backing or this season will mirror itself on to next season were Lowe survives like Maloney on kids on loan and players playing out their depth.

                            in reply to: Well I never #205532
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                              A win away at Exeter could put the toilet paper away till next season. A win will put us 9 clear of Burton with 6 to go and 12 and 13 points in front of Crawley and Cambridge and a game in hand on the pair. Then, don’t lose at Burton I honestly think we’ll then be safe.

                              The Exeter game could be the defining turning point in our dour season. I just hope the manager points this out to the players how important it is because “Take it game by game” is utter utter bollox because at this stage of the season it’s about targeting particular winnable games.

                              We stand a far better chance beating an Exeter than a Wrexham who only need a couple of wins to go up.

                              theres one huge problem, we don’t have a fit forward.i cannot believe that a football club has no fit forwards not even a kid from youth.

                              This has to be the worse squad I’ve seen in 25 years bar none.

                              Lose at Exeter and Burton then it puts Burton within 3. I just hope Lowe can pull the rabbit out the hat because I was lost as to what his tactics were against Orient, totally lost

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                                Please sort the message board out, it’s doing the old cover up can’t see what your typing

                                in reply to: A new Latics era #205463
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                                  Cze?, I think he has it in his locker to become a v.g. forward. He’s only 21 and yeah he did get bussled around by the defenders but he’s not filled out yet between 21 and 25 his body shape will change, remember Lang ?.

                                  But for me hitting it long to Cze as a hold up man? Jesus wept, that’s 1million percent NOT his game.

                                  I had one guy up the top from me shouting ffs be stronger Cze!! When Cze went upsides for a ball with an experienced defender.Christ I’m thinking cut him some slack. He’d prefer it passed to his left or right something to run on to.

                                  Cze’s game is for me has 2 components

                                  Playing off the shoulder of the last man and getting into the box at just the right time.
                                  To me he looks like he has that natural ability to do both and never rushes or panic’s.

                                  What he needs is, a midfielder who can find him and Taylor to play second fiddle because Taylor isn’t a true goal scoring forward.

                                  I personally think we’ve a rough cut diamond who with time will score us goals for fun in L1 then move on for big bucks.

                                  Once he fills out over the next 12-18months then he’ll cause defenders no end of problems

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