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And like I said it would be an acid test for us and we got well and truly burnt.
The game was lost in midfield, we weren’t able to deal with a 4 and sometimes 5 man press.
The 1st goal was a superb assist by Power,
2nd goal was a long hopeful Stockport punt gets headed back into our non existent midfield some woeful tackles
0-2
But for me as I said no strength in the middle. A 17 & 18 just doesn’t cut it.
I thought Cze looked ok but by this time Stockport had dug in deep but again we cannot hit the target. The only shot we had on target was Cze’s effort that stung the hands of their keeper.
Barrett had a good chance from 6 yards out and couldn’t hit the target, then the scramble that hit the post again not on target.
Basically it was men against boys and before Caldwell says we got better in the second half?,
That was because they were 3 up and they’d simply dropped back in and just tried their luck on the counter
Right now we’re a million miles away and the only finish I can see is lower bottom half finish
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This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by
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It was a simple case of youth bringing energy and forward thinking style of football. Young Walsh and Grey were shining lights and a breath of fresh air.
It just shows you what you can achieve when you look up and forward rather than, foot on the ball, roll it forward with the studs then pass sideways.
You can clearly see the culture and style that’s been ingrained into their DNA at top class academies.
Then young Borrowes comes on, he receives it froma brilliant cross from Murray then rather than try to take his man on with a rush of blood and steal the limelight he lays a death pass to Weir who bangs it home.
That lad could have easily gone for it but again, training in top set ups makes him aware that others are in a better position and not to be greedy.
All in all a good performance, high energy and Whitworth definitely looks like a maverick risk taker who doesn’t give a sh!t but I think keepers need attitude.
Oh and Burn at the back had a solid performance and can only improve.
Saturday will be a true acid test against a car stronger side than the 4 we faced so far .
Stockport have that experience and there coming of a loss at Luton. They’ve scored 16 in 6 cup & league but on the same token they’ve conceded 10 so it looks like a game of goals.
But overall it was actually enjoyable, some good skills on show and a huge improvement from the opening day
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I think Humphrys will sign, Bradford wanted a stupid amount of money for a player with only a year left on his contract.
I’d imagine he’s on approx £8k + a week £400,000 a year. But the thing is, he’s not even made the bench in 5 league and cup games this season and Bradford lie in 6th.
So what do they do with a player that’s not in the managers plans ?. Do they waste £400,000 on a year’s wage or mutually agree to cancel his contract so he can leave and save them a lot of money.
It’s not like there’ll be a queue in Jan so tbh it might be a good bit of business for both clubs.
That’s why there’s a delay, it’s to finalise the cutting of ties and negotiate with us at the same time, something that would have possibly been too complex on the final day to sort.
Humphrys for me will sign next week, that’s my thoughts
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Rumour is were signing someone but it will only be announced next week, wtf is that about??.
That can only mean he’s a free agent i.e. Keane or Hogan etc. Then I hear we made two bids for Woodhouse, that made me laugh. That’s nothing more than a PR stunt, bid pennies but at least it looks like we’re trying to spend.
Didn’t big Dave do this with Michael Owen then we later found out it was a PR stunt.
So here’s my thoughts:-
Drop Perkins and lob Moseley in up top. Moseley’s 21, a year younger than Perkins so right now we need someone in. If he has that natural goal scoring ability he will grow into the role but he has to be thrown in there’s no other way.
I remember Macca, Lang, Geldhardt, Aasguard, all been thrown in at the deep end. And the biggest of them all Baines and look what he went on to do.
In Dansons time the club has made roughly £13million from the sales, sell ons, compensation of players and Robinson to come if he moves on in 2027.
To date we have spent approx £600,000 on signing on fees. Large chunks have been paid out in loan fees and wages.
The club recently received £1million sell on fee for Geldhardt that had nothing to do with Danson but again this gets put back into the running of the club.
For me a minimum of 50% of all sell on money should be reinvested but that will never happen while we’re under the ownership of a guy who does not give two flying fcuks about the club.
What owner never meets the manager ?, have you ever heard Caldwell mention Dansons name or say the owner?, if you have your very lucky.
So the summer transfer window has closed and for me this is the main window not Jan.
You do your best business in the summer set your squad out then hopefully your in a strong position by Jan.
If you dont build your squad right in the summer Jan turns into a desperate transfer window we’re owners say, :- “Well if we buy him and we go down we’re stuck with him on decent wages”
For me, looking at the squad right now, the performances, the shocking defending and woeful finishing were in trouble and Caldwell knows it.
This summer transfer period is probably the worst I’ve seen. Now Caldwell has to gel a side while trying to survive.
We’ve signed kids on loan when we’ve 2 or 3 who are knocking on the door so again for me a waste of money.
I’ve seen Reggie Walsh and although he’s OK he’s definitely no Reece James. I’m 100% positive we’ve young lads in our youth just as good. Now we’ve signed a 17 winger ?. It seriously doesn’t add up.
Your own youth will give alot more than some kid on say £5k a week on loan. The loaned players knows he’s going back regardless we’re as the youth player is playing for his club and career.
If we lose against MK Dons & Stockport even though it’s early days we’ll move closer to L2 and who do we blame ?
DANSON
a guy who got what he wants the stadium and now wants rid. Never forget he’s no more than a custodian. Wigan Athletic will hopefully still be around when me and him are pushing up daisies.
At least the Chinese and Arab lot screwed up spending, Danson is a financial boa constrictor on the club.
Squeezing the finances to the point we suffocate and we keep sliding down down down till we’re back we we started
Non League
Nevermind Caldwell out
Danson sell up and stop the torture
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The difference was highlighted when Costelloe went through 1 in 1.
Rather than take it down he tried to lob the keeper from the edge of the box.
Most decent forwards understand distance and ball up & down travel, the closer you are the harder it gets to lob a keeper.
He had the chance to drag it away from the defender then shoot, and that’s the difference between a Joe Taylor Will Grigg to a Costelloe
Decision making at that crucial final attempt.
Costelloe then had another through ball and decided to aim high and missed the goal when low & hard would have been a far better option.
I had this vision that Taylor would have dragged it left then shot for the first Costelloe attempt chance and low and hard for the other.
But for me
Defending was abysmal.
For there first, Christ almighty!!
A simple lob back in to the far post, nod back down unmarked man literally screaming for it on the pen spot. Unbelievably so easy for them.
Then for their 2nd,
Mellish needs absolutely roasting for that. Wtf was he doing coming all the way over from the left to right then does that?.
But for me, Power
Power comes bombing back far far too late. He stood, watched Mellish drop a bollock then reacted far too late. The goal scorer literally waltzed into the box and not even at the last second, although it was Mellish’s fault Power should read that and track back.
I see Cze was me ruined above omg I’m in disbelief, fact coming your way
Cze has only made 3 more starts more than Sony Perkins in his career for us.
In his 33 league appearances (bollocks to any tin pot kids cup games) 28 have come from the bench.
The only way you can improve is to play. Call him all you want but over a season if Cze started and played 23 and Perkins 23 I’d back Cze all day long.
Is he the answer ? Probably not but he’s a far far better option the Perkins who is totally out his depth, I wouldn’t even say he’s non league he’s that bad.
I thought Harris looked very good. He reminded me of Wright the way he ran and his energy a future must starter.
But regardless the issue right now is not the attack for me it’s that back line. It’s an absolute total utter disaster. Mellish needs to go, I argued for him to come back after he helped MK to promotion but Jesus Christ he is bad.
We now sit bottom of the table, the only side without a point. Yes it’s early days I get that but it’s all about confidence, building confidence within a side and a happy changing room.
Once that negativity gets in it’s very hard to undo it. The first and formost job for Caldwell to form a partnership at the back.
And no Millar even for last 10 ?. Based on his performance the week before and how he influenced the game I was taken back.
Id go 4 – 5 – 1 this 3 is killing us already
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The first signs of trouble in any business is the constant turn over/getting rid of staff.
Good, well run reliable businesses tend to have more of a loyal relativity happier staff were as Latics flip staff faster than a game of pitch n toss.
The clubs gone to the dogs for me. It’s not just one thing it’s a combo of smaller things when all wrapped together turns us into a sh*tshow.
But the main one,
On field, you only had to look at that performance Saturday. Yes there was a big improvement 2nd half but Cambridge at 3-0 didn’t need to and nearly paid the price.
This season will be about uniting galvanising the squad till next year when we start uniting galvanising a new squad.
I was under the impression since Danson took over this would be the season we’d push for promotion but the truth is, we’re actually further away from the day he took over.
It’s just a crying shame we have an owner who doesn’t wanna own us which proves one thing and one thing only,
He wanted the stadium.
The other remark made my stomach churn that, Danson wouldn’t mind keeping a 25% share if sold.
So basically he wants someone to take over,
Invest time energy and money then if we were to ever achieve the golden heights of the Prem he could gleefully sit back rubbing his hands reaping the awards then no doubt sell his shares.
Any potential new owners need to buy and buy him out he’s keeping us alive thank you but he offers no cure to the slow demise of “our” club.
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Ok thanks but how bad is that that closing 3 stands isn’t enough ?
Why don’t they play it over the road if it’s that bad
***SOLD OUT***
Absolutely pathetic, I decided to hop on and grab a ticket to find out that in a 25,000 seater stadium we are only letting in about 1300
This clubs f**kin gone to the dogs. You’ve kids off school it’s a perfect time to try and attract some younger fans on freebies tickets.
Danson has handed out free tickets to season ticket holders then limited how many by closing all the ground bar 2 sections in the west.
By doing this the cost of staffing security and emergency services will be slashed therefore saving a few grand.
This for me is an all time low. Just wait till the West Stand WS10 is given to away fans and the Norths closed. That concourse will be a ticking time bomb.
For me were reaching an all time low no other owner has ever brought to the club. It’s penny pinching on a new pathetic scale
The faster Steptoe sells up the better
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And Danson’s £1million+ coming in from the sale of Gelhardt.
So potential £750,000+ from Bettoni
£1.75million from Tickle
And now £1million from Gelhardt
Estimate £3.5million
That should cover the rugby’s debt for another 12 month.
Let’s not forget his wealth chaps
To understand his wealth and he won’t put back in money from the sale of players that cost fook all:-
1 million seconds = roughly 11.5 days
1 billion seconds = roughly 31.75 years
He’ll die a very rich man
Firstly Max Power was trying his best to feed and link but if those recieving aren’t good enough then …?
He was telling Weir to one touch pass but Weir insisted on his obligatory 6-8 touches before turning back.
Powers experience regardless is much needed and I think he’ll be good for us this season.
But for me, we played with a back 3 with Chapman way way out his depth and it was clearly our undoing.
Barrett and Chapman was an open door for Cambridge and they both made too many mistakes.
In that first half I didn’t see wing backs (if that’s how we supposedly set up) I saw 3. But the goals we conceded, OMFG defending at it’s worse shocking.
We had one experienced centre half in an aging Fox and playing 3 at the back didn’t help.
Costelloe works hard but there’s no end product in anything he does, there’s no goals in him and Perkins was asked to do the wrong job. Long balls in the air. He looks the type to be fed through, running into stuff not a hold up man on the half way line.
I’m not saying he’s the answer but you can clearly see that’s not his roll being a big lump target man.
But out the chaos, madness and an embarrassing 1st half display came a 2nd half with a glimpse of light
Millar injected urgency and pace down the left
Archie Harris looked busy lots of energy and got stuck in
But for me
Akeel Higgins ? we most definitely have a tricky attacking link up midfielder who could possibly get those midfield goals we need
But more importantly feed attackers say the likes Perkins with slip though balls. I would prefer to see Cze up top, Higgins behind.
He turned the big black guy for Cambridge a few times proving he can manoeuvre big defenders out the way with his quick feet.
He looked super tricky to pin down without been fouled.
The problem is quite clear and in your face
The squads too small
No depth for when players get knocks and suspensions
Lack of defenders with that experience needed. There’s a few weeks to go before the window closes and the super hard September fixtures arrive.
Danson has to give Caldwell money
I would break the bank get Taylor in no brainer. We need an experienced centre half in that’s a must because Fox cannot play all season.
Rumours about Carragher leaving are rubbish. He’s took a knock and the word is, he’s going nowhere for now.
If we don’t get 2-3 experienced players in were fooked that’s for sure.
Can I ask a question here,
What the fook is going on with Adam Moseley????
He scored how many for the youth and he’s hardly even been seen in the pre season squads
It’s not like he’s 16-17 he’s 21 for God sake isn’t it time he was given a chance ???
Well I made the long journey today in the hope we could get off to a good start and what tale of two Half’s.
Firstly, that has to be the weakest squad I’ve seen since we played the kids in admin.
The first half was a shambolic 0.5/10 mess, a mess beyond belief. Things improved after half time but let’s not forget we were 3 down and Cambridge decided to take the foot off the gas.
The subs made a significant improvement but the worrying signs are there for the the world to see.
I honestly don’t know we’re to start there was so much wrong it’s a joke.
Danson has taken this club to an all time low and without on field investment we will go down.
I got mine about 10 days ago
My expectations for this season are this:
Caldwell needs to perform miracles on his given budget then, make them hit the ground running no if buts when’s weres whys.
We’ve 2 out the 3 league games in August away. If we fail to get at least 6 points I can promise you this, looking at fixtures after them we’ll definitely struggle in September.
We have to get points but without a recognised striker proven last season up till Jan will repeat itself bigtime
Any other owner would have looked at Taylor and used Tickle & Bettoni money and made it happen, it’s a no brainer.
This seasonal rebuild is killing us and this season we might just pay the price.
I never thought I’d be saying this for a 3 year running,
If we stay up it’s a massive achievement
That’s were Danson with all his wealth has took us, scratching around near the bottom and hanging on for dear life
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Only the same rumours buzzing around but again, there rumours, some Swedish gang.
We’ll have had more owners than a King St Bar, honestly, they come in and either try to run it like a hotdog stall or tighter than a submarine door.
I’ve never had an issue with Danson bringing the wage bill down from when he took over and we’d a small army on £8000+ a week.
The problem I have is, he’s got the taste so bad I can’t stop cutting back and we’ve moved on to staff.
And there doesn’t seem to be an end to it. Turnstiles closed even entrances to seats had shutters down in the EFL trophy.
I reckon the West Stand top corner will end up for away fans with 500 or less, you watch so they can close the North Stand and save 50p.
They tried it last season and they’ll be thinking ahhhhh success that’s till it goes off big time on the concourse and someone gets hurt.
He needs to sell us or better give us away to someone who cares about the club just as much as he cares about the rugby/women’s football and his charity
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We have an owner who doesn’t care about Wigan Athletic. His sole purpose purchasing us was to get his grubby little hands on the stadium which he achieved at the second attempt.
His second target is, to make our overall player staff wage bill so low that he can make us enticing to any potential buyers.
And you know what?, I can’t thank him enough for saving us but from the day after he bought us he’s gradually drove this club into the ground. BELIEVE? bollocks only thing I believe is the dark cloud that rides above the ground on a daily basis.
The sooner he gets us sold the better because been honest right now he’s made this club a shit hole.
Rather than point out what’s wrong I’ll point out whats right,
Errrrrr
Fook all
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