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  • #182021
    sopranosoprano
    Player

      Leyton Orient have responded, quickly and decisively, today by sacking their recently appointed Manager,
      Carl Fletcher. The man made poor team selection, poor tactics, boring football. Players and staff unhappy and manY many fans very disgruntled.

      It is a great pity that Wigan directors have their heads between their knees. One day they will be forced to act
      If they are playing to a mostly empty stadium.

      Cook has got to go.

      #182022
      the otterthe otter
      Player

        That’s not strong leadership. It’s lily livered, pathetic, knee jerk pandering to mob.

        If our board, past and present, listened to our fans Whelan would have been gone 10 years ago. Martinez would have been sacked before we got to the greatest day in our history. We’d have £10 season tickets and free admission with a pie thrown in for good measure and a succession of sacked managers and owners because we hadn’t spent millions on players.

        Especially here, football supporters are the last people that should be swaying club policy.

        #182023
        Vat69Vat69
        Player
          That’s not strong leadership. It’s lily livered, pathetic, knee jerk pandering to mob.

          If our board, past and present, listened to our fans Whelan would have been gone 10 years ago. Martinez would have been sacked before we got to the greatest day in our history. We’d have £10 season tickets and free admission with a pie thrown in for good measure and a succession of sacked managers and owners because we hadn’t spent millions on players.

          Especially here, football supporters are the last people that should be swaying club policy.

          Thats a one dimensioned look at it.

          Had Whelan sold us sooner, to the kind of investment that was said to have shown interest in us, such as massive certain Far Eastern Vehicle manufacturers and a leading energy drink company, then perhaps we would still be a Premier League club.
          But no. He handed over the reigns to Chippy Boy, and no matter what anybody says, the club was just treading water thereafter. Then he sold us to faceless owners who have no interest in football, and who’s real intentions we still dont know.

          And as for Martinez, any cup win has a large degree of luck to it. As great as that day was, and we won it on merit, Martinez got lucky with it. Any other Premier league club wouldve sacked him 2 seasons earlier. We might not have won the cup, but we might still be a Premier League club. Ive always said winning the cup was better than staying up. 6 years later, and looking at us now, I am not so sure.

          No. Lets just let this shit show continue, until we are back to Springfield Park-esque crowds of 3000. We are in a really bad mess at the moment and it needs sorting out.

          #182027
          cup winnerscup winners
          Player

            That’s not strong leadership. It’s lily livered, pathetic, knee jerk pandering to mob.

            If our board, past and present, listened to our fans Whelan would have been gone 10 years ago. Martinez would have been sacked before we got to the greatest day in our history. We’d have £10 season tickets and free admission with a pie thrown in for good measure and a succession of sacked managers and owners because we hadn’t spent millions on players.

            Especially here, football supporters are the last people that should be swaying club policy.

            Thats a one dimensioned look at it.

            Had Whelan sold us sooner, to the kind of investment that was said to have shown interest in us, such as massive certain Far Eastern Vehicle manufacturers and a leading energy drink company, then perhaps we would still be a Premier League club.
            But no. He handed over the reigns to Chippy Boy, and no matter what anybody says, the club was just treading water thereafter. Then he sold us to faceless owners who have no interest in football, and who’s real intentions we still dont know.

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            I’ll tell you what it is, holding events. That is their business blueprint so in terms of what they got for their let’s see:-

            They got a stadium with a football club not riddled with debt unlike our bellend nieghbours,

            A Rugby team paying rent,

            A not too old stadium,

            Ideal location of the ground, stuck in between 2 major UK cities and 2 airports plus a mile away from on a mainline Scotland to London train line,

            Tonnes of land to expand hotel possibly ?? and Prem quality training facilities
            And not to mention an instant foothold in the UK market,

            For how much ?, these lot are a consortium of multi millionaires. This is chicken feed for them, chicken feed.
            Do they need to invest ?, well No they don’t as they clearly pointed out they wanted the club to concentrate on bringing youth through the system.

            That’s all fine and a good business plan but let’s just hope these wonder kids were gonna home grow actually play and contribute before we flog on for hefty fees or it totally defeats the object.
            Were not Chelsea, we need to play these lads along side experience pros.

            #182028
            bigroybigroy
            Player
              That’s not strong leadership. It’s lily livered, pathetic, knee jerk pandering to mob.

              If our board, past and present, listened to our fans Whelan would have been gone 10 years ago. Martinez would have been sacked before we got to the greatest day in our history. We’d have £10 season tickets and free admission with a pie thrown in for good measure and a succession of sacked managers and owners because we hadn’t spent millions on players.

              Especially here, football supporters are the last people that should be swaying club policy.

              Haha. Let the ‘football men’ on here decide. Never kicked a ball some of em!

              #182030
              The EggThe Egg
              Chairman

                Selling academy products for massive fees we can invest elsewhere sounds like good business to me. Bit like signing Valencia and Palacios for frig all and selling them for millions.

                All well and good talking about huge investment but when your income is about £4.50 it kind of breaches FFP rules.

                #182035
                donnys pageDonnys Page
                Player
                  Selling academy products for massive fees we can invest elsewhere sounds like good business to me. Bit like signing Valencia and Palacios for frig all and selling them for millions.

                  All well and good talking about huge investment but when your income is about £4.50 it kind of breaches FFP rules.

                  Are there any rules anymore?
                  Wolves broke all sorts of fp rules on gaining promotion.
                  Bolton Wanderers broke many rules and still havnt been punished and were actively supported and had their hands held by the EFL while they walked them through their so called crisis.

                  #182037
                  Vat69Vat69
                  Player

                    Selling academy products for massive fees we can invest elsewhere sounds like good business to me. Bit like signing Valencia and Palacios for frig all and selling them for millions.

                    All well and good talking about huge investment but when your income is about £4.50 it kind of breaches FFP rules.

                    Are there any rules anymore?
                    Wolves broke all sorts of fp rules on gaining promotion.
                    Bolton Wanderers broke many rules and still havnt been punished and were actively supported and had their hands held by the EFL while they walked them through their so called crisis.[/quote]

                    Incidentally, the EFL panel met yesterday to discuss their punishment for unfulfilment of fixtures last season, so it appears that punishment is imminent.

                    #182039
                    The EggThe Egg
                    Chairman

                      Selling academy products for massive fees we can invest elsewhere sounds like good business to me. Bit like signing Valencia and Palacios for frig all and selling them for millions.

                      All well and good talking about huge investment but when your income is about £4.50 it kind of breaches FFP rules.

                      Are there any rules anymore?
                      Wolves broke all sorts of fp rules on gaining promotion.
                      Bolton Wanderers broke many rules and still havnt been punished and were actively supported and had their hands held by the EFL while they walked them through their so called crisis.[/quote]

                      Yes. Sheff Wednesday were charged earlier this week.

                      Wolves (and QPR when they beat us in the playoffs) were not because the PL and FL are two seperate entities. Basically you can cheat provided you get promoted.

                      #182043
                      Bolton Wanderers broke many rules and still havnt been punished and were actively supported and had their hands held by the EFL while they walked them through their so called crisis.

                      The EFL are deciding their punishment as we speak

                      https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/18034793.bolton-wanderers-wait-imminent-efl-punishment-decision/

                      #182058
                      EdwardsEdwards
                      Player

                        I work in Bolton, which might explain my fluctuating sanity. But, it is a great place to work as I only have to turn up for work when I can be bothered. I don’t have to let my bosses or colleagues know and I just make up my own rules. If I mess anything up I just blame everyone else and tell people I’m special.
                        This is the Bolton way!

                        #182060
                        cup winnerscup winners
                        Player
                          Selling academy products for massive fees we can invest elsewhere sounds like good business to me. Bit like signing Valencia and Palacios for frig all and selling them for millions.

                          All well and good talking about huge investment but when your income is about £4.50 it kind of breaches FFP rules.

                          Invest were though ?, are we selling young lads to fund old pro’s like Fox Mulgrew, Pilkington? players who seem to be constantly crocked at some point.
                          We need to start over the next 3-5 years bringing these lads into the side. Let’s let these lads gain experience playing for Wigan thus in turn hopefully helping us cement a place in the Championship.
                          Like I said, we are not Chelsea Arsenal or Utd were we can afford to have dozens out on loan.
                          If we are simply gonna become of breeders and never owners then it just highlights the new owners full intentions.
                          We need a manager who’s brave enough to wean lads in. Cook prefers experience which is clearly not working.

                          #182061
                          The EggThe Egg
                          Chairman

                            Well Joffy has signed a new deal this morning.

                            I agree cupwinners on the 3-5 years project and i’ve said for a while it’s what we have to do

                            #182062
                            Vat69Vat69
                            Player
                              Well Joffy has signed a new deal this morning.

                              I agree cupwinners on the 3-5 years project and i’ve said for a while it’s what we have to do

                              Whilst I am delighted we have got him to sign a new contract, the picture of him with Darren Royle and Jonathan Jackson has made me think.
                              In the picture, Royle is wearing a Poppy pin badge. Now, if Darren Royle is the astute businessman he seems to be, would he wear that badge after the 11th November, which was last Monday? Did he actually sign it last week? Seems strange to do that and wait until this spare International break weekend to announce it.

                              And where is Cook? Is something happening, are they going to announce Cook has gone, and are using Joffy signing the new deal to appease anybody who may be disgruntled?

                              Perhaps I am just being a conspiracy theorist here. Or maybe something is going on behind the scenes?

                              #182063
                              The EggThe Egg
                              Chairman

                                Dave sat at home

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