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Can I just pick up on your exemplar of “Till Death Us Do Part”?
The whole point of that programme was the unacceptability of Alf Garnett’s views. I would not in the slightest feel uncomfortable watching that, as you suggest. He was then, as now, deemed an unacceptable racist whose views were condemned. That was the point. We, my generation, were prepared to tackle such issues head on – not drive such thoughts underground in case someone was offended, but confront the issues. Alf Garnett was no more acceptable then than now.
The 70s proramme that is on Channel 4 over the weekend misses the points completely, by people who are subtitled as being “viewer in the 70s” when they were probably 5 years old.
History is being rewritten.
Just wait till history judges TOWIE, Benidorm, Jeremy Kyle, et al.
Yes, I understand your point about Till Death Us Do Part but the words he used to describe black people in particular would be uncomfortable to hear today and indeed would not be allowed.[/quote]
I also think the same could be said of Love Thy Neighbour; it was challenging the racial prejudices of the day. Having said that both these programs are unlikely ever to be repeated on mainstream TV.
Yep, it will really affect Whelan. He’ll jet off and just turn the sat dish round.
I suppose the dozers will be in Monday to knock the ground down then head over to the youth zone and dozer that . Then we’ll all be banned from living in Wigan and sent to China or Israel to do charity work for kick it out
My bags packedI hope we stop off at Jimmy Ch**ks chippy on the lane before we set off
Can I just pick up on your exemplar of “Till Death Us Do Part”?
The whole point of that programme was the unacceptability of Alf Garnett’s views. I would not in the slightest feel uncomfortable watching that, as you suggest. He was then, as now, deemed an unacceptable racist whose views were condemned. That was the point. We, my generation, were prepared to tackle such issues head on – not drive such thoughts underground in case someone was offended, but confront the issues. Alf Garnett was no more acceptable then than now.
The 70s proramme that is on Channel 4 over the weekend misses the points completely, by people who are subtitled as being “viewer in the 70s” when they were probably 5 years old.
History is being rewritten.
Just wait till history judges TOWIE, Benidorm, Jeremy Kyle, et al.
Yes, I understand your point about Till Death Us Do Part but the words he used to describe black people in particular would be uncomfortable to hear today and indeed would not be allowed.[/quote]
I also think the same could be said of Love Thy Neighbour; it was challenging the racial prejudices of the day. Having said that both these programs are unlikely ever to be repeated on mainstream TV.[/quote]
There were moral undertones to the programmes and quite rightly so, but they were both bloody funny as well.
Can I just pick up on your exemplar of “Till Death Us Do Part”?
The whole point of that programme was the unacceptability of Alf Garnett’s views. I would not in the slightest feel uncomfortable watching that, as you suggest. He was then, as now, deemed an unacceptable racist whose views were condemned. That was the point. We, my generation, were prepared to tackle such issues head on – not drive such thoughts underground in case someone was offended, but confront the issues. Alf Garnett was no more acceptable then than now.
The 70s proramme that is on Channel 4 over the weekend misses the points completely, by people who are subtitled as being “viewer in the 70s” when they were probably 5 years old.
History is being rewritten.
Just wait till history judges TOWIE, Benidorm, Jeremy Kyle, et al.
Yes, I understand your point about Till Death Us Do Part but the words he used to describe black people in particular would be uncomfortable to hear today and indeed would not be allowed.[/quote]
I also think the same could be said of Love Thy Neighbour; it was challenging the racial prejudices of the day. Having said that both these programs are unlikely ever to be repeated on mainstream TV.[/quote]
There were moral undertones to the programmes and quite rightly so, but they were both bloody funny as well.[/quote]
I thought they were funny too. However on the odd occasions snippets are shown – usually in documentary type offerings where admittedly the worst parts are aired to make a point – they are uncomfortable to watch.
Some episodes of Fawlty Towers are also a bit non-PC.
We need a bit of non PC from time to time, to provoke debate and opinion. If we were all very PC we would be sat amidst our stereotype grey lives nodding in agreement to each other and dying of boredom. At least this week’s events have woken this board up !
What about more up to date programs like Little Britain or Celebrity Juice, you couldn’t get more non PC than those programmes.
Both funny as fuck, but they get away with it, yet DW is being hauled over the coals for next to nothing.Anyone remember a few seasons back when we played liverpool at the DW & all the scousers, oops sorry liverpudlians, oops sorry, people from liverpool were all wearing those suarez t-shirts. He was banned for racist remarks. I believe he apologised, the matter was forgot about & everyone moved on. Why cant we as a club, dave whelan & more importantly malky mckay be allowed now to move on. They’ve all apologised so everyone should forget about it & as i say, move on.
Anyone remember a few seasons back when we played liverpool at the DW & all the scousers, oops sorry liverpudlians, oops sorry, people from liverpool were all wearing those suarez t-shirts. He was banned for racist remarks. I believe he apologised, the matter was forgot about & everyone moved on. Why cant we as a club, dave whelan & more importantly malky mckay be allowed now to move on. They’ve all apologised so everyone should forget about it & as i say, move on.Yeah but how many of us here weren’t having a pop at Liverpool when they stood by him eh? Funny what happens when the shoe’s on the other foot.
Anyone remember a few seasons back when we played liverpool at the DW & all the scousers, oops sorry liverpudlians, oops sorry, people from liverpool were all wearing those suarez t-shirts. He was banned for racist remarks. I believe he apologised, the matter was forgot about & everyone moved on. Why cant we as a club, dave whelan & more importantly malky mckay be allowed now to move on. They’ve all apologised so everyone should forget about it & as i say, move on.Unfortunately apologising will not make the FA forget about it because they believe both Mackay and Whelan have a case to answer.
Clarke Carlisle has just been on North West tonight having a bit of a pop at Whelan, saying something about being ‘honourable’ and resigning. This can’t be the same Clarke Carlisle who is a convicted drink driver can it? Someone so drunk that even the morning after, they were still twice over the limit. Someone who’s “error of judgement” could quite easily have cost the life of an innocent motorist/pedestrian?
Must be someone else…
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