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Then increase the support, not lower the capacity
I think that ships sailed, George. Biggest mistake he made was increasing prices in the second Premier League season. It put a lot of the new people off straight away.
But if we put it into perspective, next season we will be getting a lot bigger away supports coming. I’d say 3-4 thousand on average, some even bigger. If we can have 9000 home fans on and 4000 away, it gives us a 13k attendance. Pretty much the same as Preston North End who are actually a city club, these days. Plus theyve been going since the 1800’s. When you look at it like that, next seasons attendances will be about right for where we are, and what we are as a club. If we could get to the Premier League again, I’d expect attendances to rise to the 17-20k mark, depending on opposition.
When you look at it like that, it’s not so bad.
Then increase the support, not lower the capacity
I think that ships sailed, George. Biggest mistake he made was increasing prices in the second Premier League season. It put a lot of the new people off straight away.
But if we put it into perspective, next season we will be getting a lot bigger away supports coming. I’d say 3-4 thousand on average, some even bigger. If we can have 9000 home fans on and 4000 away, it gives us a 13k attendance. Pretty much the same as Preston North End who are actually a city club, these days. Plus theyve been going since the 1800’s. When you look at it like that, next seasons attendances will be about right for where we are, and what we are as a club. If we could get to the Premier League again, I’d expect attendances to rise to the 17-20k mark, depending on opposition.
When you look at it like that, it’s not so bad.[/quote]
I like your optimism VAT, I can see 11 – 12 k for home games pushing 13 for Derby’s next season, but here’s to the Samba beat at Donny on Saturday.I’ve said it before & i’ll say it again, our stadium is way too big for our support. A bournemouth size stadium would have been more sufficient.
But yes. The people of wigan are shocking when it comes to supporting their town team. 30000 turned up in the town when we won the cup. As delia would say, “where are you, lets be ‘avin you.”
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Who had the better vision Mr Whelan or the owners of Bournemouth whose stadium is costing them millions in lost revenue because it is way too small. They would swap grounds with us in a heartbeat if possible. The DW is paid for and not costing the club anything for having a 25000 capacity. If we ever get back to the greed league and investment is available for us to compete then again it will not cost the club millions in upgrading the stadium. The DW is fine as it is. Only some Latics fans could have a whinge and want to reduce capacity. Whatever next bring back the Springy bogs where you could smell the piss from 100 yards away.[/quote]
Nuneaton, with all due respect, I think your missing the main point of my post. Our stadium is way too big for our support. Thats all![/quote]
I don’t think I’m missing the point Runc, attendances have dwindled because we have gone back down the leagues which would be the case at every other club as well. Our first ever Prem game against Chelsea saw the stadium full so it wasn’t too big then. So what your saying we should give up all hope and thoughts of ever getting back there and go back to being a low league club and play in a small stadium. You ought to know this great club by now marrer and never ever underestimate what can be achieved. We done it once and I for one would never back against it doing it again.
Answer me this question Runc, why did you become a Latics fan?
I guarantee it wouldn’t be because or the incredible atmosphere at games. No Tics fan would probably say the same. We support the club because it is special a one off a club who defies logic and competes and beats the big boys. A club who surpasses all expectations despite being stunted by its big bullying neighbours. None of us are Latics daft because of the size of our crowds it is because the club is fookin brilliant and gives us so much.
No atmosphere small crowds bulging trophy cabinet that’s Wigan Athletic and I for one wouldn’t change anything.
It comes back to the earlier point. 8K and the place looks deserted, 12K+ and it’s perfectly adequate atmosphere wise. A good atmosphere is key to attracting floating fans.
Regardless, the place needs a million or two spent on facilities, pitch maintenance and general renovations. Not something we could prioritise in Lg1. It needs to be looked at in the Championship, and with the takeover and stadium rebranding, is likely happening anyhow.
It comes back to the earlier point. 8K and the place looks deserted, 12K+ and it’s perfectly adequate atmosphere wise. A good atmosphere is key to attracting floating fans.Regardless, the place needs a million or two spent on facilities, pitch maintenance and general renovations. Not something we could prioritise in Lg1. It needs to be looked at in the Championship, and with the takeover and stadium rebranding, is likely happening anyhow.
I would start by removing all the red seats and replacing them with white, then replace ‘Wigan’ in the East Stand seats for ‘LATICS’.
The Boston Utd stand also needs rebranding, maybe to Goole or Worksop.I’ve said it before & i’ll say it again, our stadium is way too big for our support. A bournemouth size stadium would have been more sufficient.
But yes. The people of wigan are shocking when it comes to supporting their town team. 30000 turned up in the town when we won the cup. As delia would say, “where are you, lets be ‘avin you.”
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Who had the better vision Mr Whelan or the owners of Bournemouth whose stadium is costing them millions in lost revenue because it is way too small. They would swap grounds with us in a heartbeat if possible. The DW is paid for and not costing the club anything for having a 25000 capacity. If we ever get back to the greed league and investment is available for us to compete then again it will not cost the club millions in upgrading the stadium. The DW is fine as it is. Only some Latics fans could have a whinge and want to reduce capacity. Whatever next bring back the Springy bogs where you could smell the piss from 100 yards away.[/quote]
Nuneaton, with all due respect, I think your missing the main point of my post. Our stadium is way too big for our support. Thats all![/quote]
I don’t think I’m missing the point Runc, attendances have dwindled because we have gone back down the leagues which would be the case at every other club as well. Our first ever Prem game against Chelsea saw the stadium full so it wasn’t too big then. So what your saying we should give up all hope and thoughts of ever getting back there and go back to being a low league club and play in a small stadium. You ought to know this great club by now marrer and never ever underestimate what can be achieved. We done it once and I for one would never back against it doing it again.
Answer me this question Runc, why did you become a Latics fan?
I guarantee it wouldn’t be because or the incredible atmosphere at games. No Tics fan would probably say the same. We support the club because it is special a one off a club who defies logic and competes and beats the big boys. A club who surpasses all expectations despite being stunted by its big bullying neighbours. None of us are Latics daft because of the size of our crowds it is because the club is fookin brilliant and gives us so much.
No atmosphere small crowds bulging trophy cabinet that’s Wigan Athletic and I for one wouldn’t change anything.[/quote]
Celebrating my 40th anniversary as a tics mon next season. And like you, i wouldn’t have it any other way.
We filled the stadium vs chelsea as it was our first ever game in the PL. It was a novelty. Whenever the mancs or scousers came to town, again the stadium was full, largely due to the fact that a lot of wigan born scouse & manc supporters came into our end.
But attendances did start to drop the longer we stayed in the PL.
I’ve said it before & i’ll say it again, our stadium is way too big for our support. A bournemouth size stadium would have been more sufficient.
But yes. The people of wigan are shocking when it comes to supporting their town team. 30000 turned up in the town when we won the cup. As delia would say, “where are you, lets be ‘avin you.”
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Who had the better vision Mr Whelan or the owners of Bournemouth whose stadium is costing them millions in lost revenue because it is way too small. They would swap grounds with us in a heartbeat if possible. The DW is paid for and not costing the club anything for having a 25000 capacity. If we ever get back to the greed league and investment is available for us to compete then again it will not cost the club millions in upgrading the stadium. The DW is fine as it is. Only some Latics fans could have a whinge and want to reduce capacity. Whatever next bring back the Springy bogs where you could smell the piss from 100 yards away.[/quote]
Nuneaton, with all due respect, I think your missing the main point of my post. Our stadium is way too big for our support. Thats all![/quote]
I don’t think I’m missing the point Runc, attendances have dwindled because we have gone back down the leagues which would be the case at every other club as well. Our first ever Prem game against Chelsea saw the stadium full so it wasn’t too big then. So what your saying we should give up all hope and thoughts of ever getting back there and go back to being a low league club and play in a small stadium. You ought to know this great club by now marrer and never ever underestimate what can be achieved. We done it once and I for one would never back against it doing it again.
Answer me this question Runc, why did you become a Latics fan?
I guarantee it wouldn’t be because or the incredible atmosphere at games. No Tics fan would probably say the same. We support the club because it is special a one off a club who defies logic and competes and beats the big boys. A club who surpasses all expectations despite being stunted by its big bullying neighbours. None of us are Latics daft because of the size of our crowds it is because the club is fookin brilliant and gives us so much.
No atmosphere small crowds bulging trophy cabinet that’s Wigan Athletic and I for one wouldn’t change anything.[/quote]
Celebrating my 40th anniversary as a tics mon next season. And like you, i wouldn’t have it any other way.
We filled the stadium vs chelsea as it was our first ever game in the PL. It was a novelty. Whenever the mancs or scousers came to town, again the stadium was full, largely due to the fact that a lot of wigan born scouse & manc supporters came into our end.
But attendances did start to drop the longer we stayed in the PL.[/quote]
Selling our best players year in year out didn’t help while in the premiership no wonder fans left
I’ve said it before & i’ll say it again, our stadium is way too big for our support. A bournemouth size stadium would have been more sufficient.
But yes. The people of wigan are shocking when it comes to supporting their town team. 30000 turned up in the town when we won the cup. As delia would say, “where are you, lets be ‘avin you.”
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Who had the better vision Mr Whelan or the owners of Bournemouth whose stadium is costing them millions in lost revenue because it is way too small. They would swap grounds with us in a heartbeat if possible. The DW is paid for and not costing the club anything for having a 25000 capacity. If we ever get back to the greed league and investment is available for us to compete then again it will not cost the club millions in upgrading the stadium. The DW is fine as it is. Only some Latics fans could have a whinge and want to reduce capacity. Whatever next bring back the Springy bogs where you could smell the piss from 100 yards away.[/quote]
Nuneaton, with all due respect, I think your missing the main point of my post. Our stadium is way too big for our support. Thats all![/quote]
I don’t think I’m missing the point Runc, attendances have dwindled because we have gone back down the leagues which would be the case at every other club as well. Our first ever Prem game against Chelsea saw the stadium full so it wasn’t too big then. So what your saying we should give up all hope and thoughts of ever getting back there and go back to being a low league club and play in a small stadium. You ought to know this great club by now marrer and never ever underestimate what can be achieved. We done it once and I for one would never back against it doing it again.
Answer me this question Runc, why did you become a Latics fan?
I guarantee it wouldn’t be because or the incredible atmosphere at games. No Tics fan would probably say the same. We support the club because it is special a one off a club who defies logic and competes and beats the big boys. A club who surpasses all expectations despite being stunted by its big bullying neighbours. None of us are Latics daft because of the size of our crowds it is because the club is fookin brilliant and gives us so much.
No atmosphere small crowds bulging trophy cabinet that’s Wigan Athletic and I for one wouldn’t change anything.[/quote]
Celebrating my 40th anniversary as a tics mon next season. And like you, i wouldn’t have it any other way.
We filled the stadium vs chelsea as it was our first ever game in the PL. It was a novelty. Whenever the mancs or scousers came to town, again the stadium was full, largely due to the fact that a lot of wigan born scouse & manc supporters came into our end.
But attendances did start to drop the longer we stayed in the PL.[/quote]
However in the last two seasons playing in the Greed league our gates were on the up and in the very last season our average topped 19,500 which was the Latics best average since the first year.
We even averaged over 15,000 the first year back in the Championship. It’s going to take a mammoth job to return to figures like those but this year’s average is only a couple of hundred below the Caldwell year and with the feel good factor, better away followings and reasonable season ticket prices we should top the figure from the last relegation year under Caldwell and Joyce. I wouldn’t hold my breath though. It could possibly be down to marketing and to how well we do on the field, pay on the day prices and special offers even to top the 16/17 years crowds.Selling our best players year in year out didn’t help while in the premiership no wonder fans left[/quote]
No it didn’t but if we didn’t do that then we may now be in a worse position than our neighbours up the road or Muttys lads. It was sadly the best business model for us and still is. Buy low, sell high.
As for attendances I really don’t care. As long as those there are loyal Tics and not people who only turn up for a big game or a trophy win then I’m happy.
An idea I had a while back was some kind of ‘football bus’ service, where a couple of buses ran match day routes across the borough, kind of mimicking the tram service you get in continental cities on match days. A couple of branded buses, and free or reduced travel on production of your ticket, and tickets sold on board. Something like that.
I’ve done similar abroad, where your match ticket is valid on the train from the centre before the game to the stadium, and back to the centre afterwards.
An idea I had a while back was some kind of ‘football bus’ service, where a couple of buses ran match day routes across the borough, kind of mimicking the tram service you get in continental cities on match days. A couple of branded buses, and free or reduced travel on production of your ticket, and tickets sold on board. Something like that.I’ve done similar abroad, where your match ticket is valid on the train from the centre before the game to the stadium, and back to the centre afterwards.
Didn’t Charlton do that when they were in the Prem.
An idea I had a while back was some kind of ‘football bus’ service, where a couple of buses ran match day routes across the borough, kind of mimicking the tram service you get in continental cities on match days. A couple of branded buses, and free or reduced travel on production of your ticket, and tickets sold on board. Something like that.
I’ve done similar abroad, where your match ticket is valid on the train from the centre before the game to the stadium, and back to the centre afterwards.
Didn’t Charlton do that when they were in the Prem.[/quote]
We did that for a while when we were in the PL but I can’t remember the full details.
Can be done abroad because they have unified transport systems run by the local councils who buy into the idea of joined up thinking for members of the town/city and who take pride in the local sports clubs.
Here we just have profit making private companies who couldn’t co-operate if their lives depended on it.
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