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After the Bowton game combined with the walk it was tranquil on here for a while with a warming glow and lots of friendly backpatting and general all round renewed hope and expectations.
1 game later and normal service has been resumed.Mud slinging,name calling and vitriol returning with gusto,BOTM blowing a gasket and increased usage of bad language.Jr and Lmb returning to their own sides of the divide and all the old hostilities back in full swing.
BOTM says its boring on here,Your joking its far more entertaining than Saturday neet tele :)
After the Bowton game combined with the walk it was tranquil on here for a while with a warming glow and lots of friendly backpatting and general all round renewed hope and expectations.1 game later and normal service has been resumed.Mud slinging,name calling and vitriol returning with gusto,BOTM blowing a gasket and increased usage of bad language.Jr and Lmb returning to their own sides of the divide and all the old hostilities back in full swing.
BOTM says its boring on here,Your joking its far more entertaining than Saturday neet tele :)
i thought the game was pretty decent effort from the lads. another point gained, win next weekand we should move out the bottom 3. We do need to convert those to wins but very entertaining
I guess everyone perceives the games differently ! Every person who I spoke to yesterday said it was shit and boring and I was inclined to agree !!
One of the worst full backs in the prem is warnock and we never got at him, he had sod all too do :(
If Boyce were a horse he would have been shot in the last 20 minutes. We needed Stam on to have given Warnock a real test.
Please don’t use any of the damning statistics to back up any opinions about our 3 season goal drought, or you will face the wrath of the “theres a positive in there somewhere” crew .
I ask this question again have we ever been prolific goalscorers the prem ?
We will never be prolific scorers in the Prem but its about having forwards who keep the ball and take pressure of our rear guard.Goal diff in pre Robbie Prem era reads -7 -22 -17 -11.The last 3 seasons -42 -21 and presently -27.We constantly give the ball away cheaply in the final 3rd and our midfield has contributed more goals than the forwards.I would be confident we would survive with 1 half decent one but its in the lap of the gods with the impotent group we have now .Yakubu,Zamora ,fletcher could be the reason why we drop and they may survive.
We will never be prolific scorers in the Prem but its about having forwards who keep the ball and take pressure of our rear guard.Goal diff in pre Robbie Prem era reads -7 -22 -17 -11.The last 3 seasons -42 -21 and presently -27.We constantly give the ball away cheaply in the final 3rd and our midfield has contributed more goals than the forwards.I would be confident we would survive with 1 half decent one but its in the lap of the gods with the impotent group we have now .Yakubu,Zamora ,fletcher could be the reason why we drop and they may survive.Make your mind up. You’re going on about needing forwards to hold the ball up as we’ll never be prolific scorers, then belittling the fact that midfielders have scored more than the forwards. If your forwards are there to hold the ball up, the midfield are expected to pitch in with the goals – that’s how it works.
What we are short of is a forward who can hit the proverbial cow’s aris with a banjo. I thought we had one with Boselli, but clearly it didn’t work out for whatever reason.
Since we got in the Premier League there has been a long line of strikers ready to turn us down, including two of the players you’ve mentioned: Zamora, who turned us down when we enquired about him whilst he was with West Ham, and Fletcher who we we have been linked with on a couple of occasions.
And be honest, would you honestly have been happy had we signed Yakuba at the beginning of the season? Considering the way he’s been playing over the past few years, I’d say his transformation has been a stroke of luck rather than any great insight by Steve Keane.
The fact of the matter is, we are stuck with what we’ve got, and if we somehow manage to stay in the league yet again, unless we unearth some wonderkid, or an amazing foreign player that nobody else had spotted, we’ll have to make do with mediocrity.
Rodders,Sammon,Di Santo,…..I would have Yakubu any day .No its not a stroke of luck ,its called an educated gamble.Something you have to risk when the dollop is up to your ears.What do you call whipping out 2.5 mill for a forward whose scoring ratio pre Wigan was bordering on criminal(Di Santo)as for Bosselli we will never know..Sorry Robbie has failed miserably with his aquisitions so instead of the buck stopping at his feet let’s wallow in “little Wigan syndrome”.
No its not a stroke of luck ,its called an educated gamble
Is a gamble not a stroke of luck though any how a certain couple of strikers costing £85 million between them have scored the same amount of goals as Franco
No its not a stroke of luck ,its called an educated gambleIs a gamble not a stroke of luck though any how a certain couple of strikers costing £85 million between them have scored the same amount of goals as Franco
And their club is also not doing “the business” by their standards ! What is your point ? Chelsea paid a few quid for a certain striker and they too are underachieving by their standards ! At all levels you need someone who can find the old onion bag !
No its not a stroke of luck ,its called an educated gamble
Is a gamble not a stroke of luck though any how a certain couple of strikers costing £85 million between them have scored the same amount of goals as Franco
And their club is also not doing “the business” by their standards ! What is your point ? Chelsea paid a few quid for a certain striker and they too are underachieving by their standards ! At all levels you need someone who can find the old onion bag ![/quote]
indeed but Chelski can afford a £50 million striker on the bench unlike us who have to find a striker that can get 10 goals a season let alone 20 on smaller budget
Rodders,Sammon,Di Santo,…..I would have Yakubu any day .No its not a stroke of luck ,its called an educated gamble.Something you have to risk when the dollop is up to your ears.What do you call whipping out 2.5 mill for a forward whose scoring ratio pre Wigan was bordering on criminal(Di Santo)as for Bosselli we will never know..Sorry Robbie has failed miserably with his aquisitions so instead of the buck stopping at his feet let’s wallow in “little Wigan syndrome”.Yes, let’s just blame the manager, because after all, we are not ‘little Wigan’ who have been turned down by players on a regular basis for the past seven years.
So you’d say a player who was released on loan by Everton to Leicester, who many thought was overweight and past his best, and who I was hazard a guess is on a salary in excess of our present ceiling is a calculated gamble, but signing South America’s top scorer, a young enthusiastic Chelsea forward, or the SPL’s most improved striker are not worthwhile risks?
Funnily enough, on the endless pages of transfer gossip, suggestions, wish lists etc that clogged this board up pre-season, there was not one mention of Yakubu by anyone. Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn’t it?
And as for wallowing, who is wallowing? I most certainly am not. I came to terms with the fact that we couldn’t match the wages of our competition and that Wigan is not an attractive proposition many years ago, and that’s why I don’t throw my toys out of the pram or blame people when signings don’t come off, or indeed, if we lose.
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