i have no need to apologise in any way – i stand by fully what i wrote,he may not have personally done the 3 things i described him by,but he has been editor in chief of a publication who’s columnists have eulogized over such behaviour in the past,therfore guilt by association.
The very reason why you hid yourself away from this forum for over a week I assume
Apologise man
i have never hidden anywhere in my life – especially not the fantasy world of a fanzine forum take a look at my username you moron it doesn’t exactly look like it was dreamed up by a wallflower who is afraid of their own shadow , wanting to blend into the background-i chose it because it suits.
now you read what i have just written and the original piece and google ‘andy coulson'(hes in the news at the moment) and you will see why i said what i did about jimmy t and why i stand by it 100 %
The very reason why you hid yourself away from this forum for over a week I assume
Apologise man
Whoa hang on, the man knocks about with terrorists, if he calls me a hooligan then I’m prepared to become one ;) [/quote]
i wondered how long it would take your cohorts on here to get in touch with you to pass on the news your name had cropped up again.
i happened to become involved in a situation beyond my control many years ago,doesnt mean i agreed with any of their outlook on life,or if in fact the actual evidence presented to me at the time was even factual.
The very reason why you hid yourself away from this forum for over a week I assume
Apologise man
Whoa hang on, the man knocks about with terrorists, if he calls me a hooligan then I’m prepared to become one ;) [/quote]
Ahhh, but all your Stone Island gear went to the jumble sale so you can’t.
Do you want to buy some??? I am sure there a few old ‘Perry’ boys out there with some for sale.
i wondered how long it would take your cohorts on here to get in touch with you to pass on the news your name had cropped up again.
i happened to become involved in a situation beyond my control many years ago,doesnt mean i agreed with any of their outlook on life,or if in fact the actual evidence presented to me at the time was even factual.
I’m a Wigan Athletic fan, I read all the forums when I can. I’ve got enough on my plate to find time to post on all of them, I can assure you there has been no signal off any cohorts.
The thread didn’t really grab me but when it went to two pages I took a look as it usually means an innocuous subject has got a bit interesting.
Good to see you’ve not been hiding but I can assure you, no cohorts have been talking about you.
Mind you, plenty people a week or so ago who go on this site and other ones and know me personally have spoken to me by various methods have been laughing at you and commented what a pathetic, underhand, snivelling individual you are given your accusations of me and failure to admit you are wrong.
Lots of people laughing at you for getting it so horribly wrong and refusing to back down when cornered by people whom you probably thought you were acting all big and clever in front of.
You’re a liar and everyone knows you are a liar – on this site and ‘cohorts’ from elsewhere know it. These are real people, friends and acquaintances who I have met through football – the only one in the realms of fantasy here is you as you keep up your silly charade.
The decent thing would be for you to apologise and we can all move on.
i wondered how long it would take your cohorts on here to get in touch with you to pass on the news your name had cropped up again.
i happened to become involved in a situation beyond my control many years ago,doesnt mean i agreed with any of their outlook on life,or if in fact the actual evidence presented to me at the time was even factual.
I’m a Wigan Athletic fan, I read all the forums when I can. I’ve got enough on my plate to find time to post on all of them, I can assure you there has been no signal off any cohorts.
The thread didn’t really grab me but when it went to two pages I took a look as it usually means an innocuous subject has got a bit interesting.
Good to see you’ve not been hiding but I can assure you, no cohorts have been talking about you.
Mind you, plenty people a week or so ago who go on this site and other ones and know me personally have spoken to me by various methods have been laughing at you and commented what a pathetic, underhand, snivelling individual you are given your accusations of me and failure to admit you are wrong.
Lots of people laughing at you for getting it so horribly wrong and refusing to back down when cornered by people whom you probably thought you were acting all big and clever in front of.
You’re a liar and everyone knows you are a liar – on this site and ‘cohorts’ from elsewhere know it. These are real people, friends and acquaintances who I have met through football – the only one in the realms of fantasy here is you as you keep up your silly charade.
The decent thing would be for you to apologise and we can all move on.[/quote]
tell me that you had no knowledge that articles written in the magazine you are involved in,have not in the past glorified the very subject we are talking about now –
then tell me also, the reason that the ‘private coaches’ that you traveled to away games on where you “forged long standing friendships” were not organised and became popular because they blatently flouted section 1 of the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol), Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 were again being carried out unbeknown to the editorial staff of your publication.
when you confirm these points to me i will gladly withdraw what i originally said and issue you with a full and sincere apology
but at the same time i will then quote the name ‘andy coulson’ to you.
I’m not answerable to you and don’t really feel the need to answer you until you have the decency to give me an apology for slurring my good character.
I will however point out a few more things all of which will make your little crusade even more futile. These points run very sequentially I think you’ll find….
1. What on earth has Andy Coulson got to do with me? I’d suggest it has more to do with you as I’m sure his former newspaper had been done for slander the odd time and at the moment you have slandered me and don’t seem to be able to wriggle your way out of it.
2. Andy Coulson was editor of the News of the World for several years. I have no doubt that over the five years that he was editor of the News of the World that he, as editor published stories about murder and all manner of other criminality, maybe even included stories and case studies from football hooligans telling tales of past glories or gangsters serialising their days of pomp. It does not mean he endorses it nor does it make him a murderer, hooligan, gangster etc.
I suggest if you feel that it does, you go down to the local Waterstones with a pen and a big pad and write down the name of everyone who has written a crime biog about a gangster or murderer, indeed anything at all which advocates any form of criminality and take their names to the police station to have them prosecuted for the crimes they have written about, in fact if you’re going to be consistent go to the publishers and get the whole company incarcerated for publishing these books if you feel so strongly about this.
Good luck with that by the way
3. In every magazine I have ever edited it has contained the following paragraphs at the beginning of every issue: The views contained within are those of the individuals and not necessarily those of the Cockney Latic/Mudhutter (delete as applicable)
4. Can you clarify whether the problem over which you seem to be taking the supremely moral high ground is regarding content published in:
a) the Mudhutter (of which I have been the editor of four 6 years, 29 issues published, 2004 – 2010)
b) the Cockney Latic (of which I was editor of for 5 years, 46 issues 1999-2004) or
c) both
Please consider before attempting to give an answer to the above that I was editor of both magazines and both magazines had 90% of the same contributors
Also, that I have absolutely tons of articles that may or may not have condoned what you might call ‘hooliganism activity’ for BOTH magazines and won’t hesitate to pull something from both set of archives I currently have hanging from my key ring on a little pen drive thingy.
You see, I have the evidence, you just keep sounding off without having any discernable back up at all
5. Finally, if you accept the truth highlighted in point 4, namely that their has been very little difference in both magazine contents throughout their time (and if you don’t let me know why and I will gladly upload and scan a copy of the old CL to prove it if need be) can I ask what on earth you have been doing posting on this website for so long given that you disapprove so vehemently with the content of the magazine/fanzine it takes it’s name from?
That would make you (as well as a liar) a really, really big hypocrite :roll:
As ever, think carefully before you respond and try and retain what little credibility you have left
it is you is the hypocrite,and coulson probably never let articles go to print to my knowledge that conodone breaking the law – in defence of the allegations aimed at him now he claims he didnt know the law was being broken on hundreds of occaisions -whereas you knew that the same went on under your stewardship -yet choose to hide behind an own opinions statement,now care to look back at my first post ,you will see i chose the same path.
“a ‘stone island’ clad crew/lad/hooligan (take your pick which)”,
so you are now saying it is ok for you to use that broad excuse but i am not.