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It’s one thing when Far Eastern owners mess about with your squad, managers, style of play etc etc.
But when they mess about with the colours you’ve worn for well over a century! :(
Its nothing new though
Leeds United did it under Don Revie, Bolton did it under Allardyce (when they dropped their black shorts), Latics haven’t always played in blue & white, Spurs used to play in all purple, Juventus used to play in pink, Arsenal haven’t always played in red & white, United haven’t always played in red
As a Latics fan I’d always prefer us to play in blue & white but if a big wedge of cash came with a change of kit to red & white hoops I’d reluctantly accept it!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo:
Whilst I’m on garswood – did you ever get the opportunity to look for those isidro Diaz goals against Carlisle back in 1997?
How sad.
Still , as long as the price is right clubs , and it seems some of their fans , will whore themselves out to whichever foreign syndicate comes along flashing the cash. A century of history changed by some bleedin foreigner who’s been there two minutes.
Of course it won’t stop at changing the colours. The more foreign owners that come into the game will mean it’s only a matter of time before some poor unfortunates will see their club being moved , Wimbledon style , to God only knows which part of the country.
:evil:
How sad.Still , as long as the price is right clubs , and it seems some of their fans , will whore themselves out to whichever foreign syndicate comes along flashing the cash. A century of history changed by some bleedin foreigner who’s been there two minutes.
Of course it won’t stop at changing the colours. The more foreign owners that come into the game will mean it’s only a matter of time before some poor unfortunates will see their club being moved , Wimbledon style , to God only knows which part of the country.
:evil:
Great post :)
Listening to cardiff fans on radio today,yes there were a lot against it but when there bloke from the offical supporters club came on and said rumours are we are losing 1 million a week and the debt of the club is in excess of 70 million. The owners have said they will wipe the debt off so changing the colour of our kit is a small price to pay because the way things stand we where heading the same way has pompy and rangers so we will still have a team to support
Listening to cardiff fans on radio today,yes there were a lot against it but when there bloke from the offical supporters club came on and said rumours are we are losing 1 million a week and the debt of the club is in excess of 70 million. The owners have said they will wipe the debt off so changing the colour of our kit is a small price to pay because the way things stand we where heading the same way has pompy and rangers so we will still have a team to supportThat is just what a Cardiff fan whose windows I clean said today !
How sad.Still , as long as the price is right clubs , and it seems some of their fans , will whore themselves out to whichever foreign syndicate comes along flashing the cash. A century of history changed by some bleedin foreigner who’s been there two minutes.
Of course it won’t stop at changing the colours. The more foreign owners that come into the game will mean it’s only a matter of time before some poor unfortunates will see their club being moved , Wimbledon style , to God only knows which part of the country.
:evil:
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, criticising purely foreign owners and suggesting they will throw away history without any thought is somewhat unfair.
If my memory serves meright it was Pete Winkleman (English) who moved Wimbledon to Milton Keynes and our own Dave Whelan (also English) got rid of Springfield Park and the 100 years of history that went with it.
How sad.
Still , as long as the price is right clubs , and it seems some of their fans , will whore themselves out to whichever foreign syndicate comes along flashing the cash. A century of history changed by some bleedin foreigner who’s been there two minutes.
Of course it won’t stop at changing the colours. The more foreign owners that come into the game will mean it’s only a matter of time before some poor unfortunates will see their club being moved , Wimbledon style , to God only knows which part of the country.
:evil:
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, criticising purely foreign owners and suggesting they will throw away history without any thought is somewhat unfair.
If my memory serves meright it was Pete Winkleman (English) who moved Wimbledon to Milton Keynes and our own Dave Whelan (also English) got rid of Springfield Park and the 100 years of history that went with it.[/quote]
OK there comes a time when naturally you have to move on. If you think Springfield Park could be the home of Premier League football, then you are being as sarcastic that your post sounds. B)
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!How sad.Still , as long as the price is right clubs , and it seems some of their fans , will whore themselves out to whichever foreign syndicate comes along flashing the cash. A century of history changed by some bleedin foreigner who’s been there two minutes.
Of course it won’t stop at changing the colours. The more foreign owners that come into the game will mean it’s only a matter of time before some poor unfortunates will see their club being moved , Wimbledon style , to God only knows which part of the country.
:evil:
Do you think they will ever move Man Utd to London ? It wouldn’t cause that much outrage would it !! ;)
How sad.
Still , as long as the price is right clubs , and it seems some of their fans , will whore themselves out to whichever foreign syndicate comes along flashing the cash. A century of history changed by some bleedin foreigner who’s been there two minutes.
Of course it won’t stop at changing the colours. The more foreign owners that come into the game will mean it’s only a matter of time before some poor unfortunates will see their club being moved , Wimbledon style , to God only knows which part of the country.
:evil:
Do you think they will ever move Man Utd to London ? It wouldn’t cause that much outrage would it !! ;)[/quote]
Be like a home game to most
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, criticising purely foreign owners and suggesting they will throw away history without any thought is somewhat unfair.If my memory serves meright it was Pete Winkleman (English) who moved Wimbledon to Milton Keynes and our own Dave Whelan (also English) got rid of Springfield Park and the 100 years of history that went with it.
I agree with the sentiment of your post but Wimbledon were owned by Norwegians when they moved to Milton Keynes in September 2003
Winkleman didn’t buy Wimbledon until June 2004 after they’d gone into administration although he’d been the driving force behind the Milton Keynes Stadium Consortium since 2000 who had invited several clubs to move there including Luton & QPRBack to cardiff – as I said originally plenty of clubs have done it in the past but in cardiff’s case do they change their colours or do they have no club to follow? They may well have been held to ransom by the owners which isn’t nice but given that choice we’d all only make one choice
Back to cardiff – as I said originally plenty of clubs have done it in the past but in cardiff’s case do they change their colours or do they have no club to follow? They may well have been held to ransom by the owners which isn’t nice but given that choice we’d all only make one choiceThat’s the point though, isn’t it?
Certainly Cardiff fans have no say in it all, and yes, we would accept playing in cherry and white hoops if it meant the club’s survival.
BUT – what is a sad sign of the times is that new owners come in with no feeling at all for football, the club and its history (and its fans) and treat the club as their plaything to dress up in whatever they want.
There’s nothing anyone can do about it, but it is nonetheless another nail in the coffin of the game we all used to know. Welcome to the Brave New World.
It is a radical decision to change the club’s colours and a little ignorant, to say the least, but certainly not unprecedented. I’ve no doubt that this has happened in just about every decade to one club or another in the last century for reasons relative to the way the world is at that time. Currently, and possibly unfortunately, the game’s appeal is more globally widespread than ever and Cardiff’s situation is more of an inevitability than anything. The amount of money being offered by these Asians factored into Cardiff’s plight, they are within their rights to ask them to play in stockings and sussies (red, of course) if they want to.
The ‘Anti-Sky Football Was Invented Before 1992’ traditionalist brigade will have a field day with this, thinking the end is nigh and all the rest of it. I agree and sympathise to a point but you can’t have it all ways. I must admit I wouldn’t like it happening to my club and I’m glad it’s happening to someone else but the end isn’t quite nigh. There will still be a Cardiff City long after the current incumbent’s provisos and colour fetishes are banished to distant memory.
Working class towns and cities, like Cardiff, have used their football clubs to ward off the depressions of unemployment, poverty, war etc. They’ve brought communities together, united them in a common interest and have been something they can be proud of and use as an identity to represent their town.
Radically changing a team’s shirt colour is changing the very fabric (pun intended) of a football club, which in effect is interwoven within the community. In the nutshell, football is tribal; if you change something in football, you are changing people’s lives.
Melodramatic though that may seem, it’s the truth.
Yes I know it happened years ago with the likes of Wigan and even Man Utd changing their colours but that was due to things like the availability of a particular colour of shirt – thus the necessity to buy that colour. It was not a marketing ploy or the whim of a club’s new owner. Also, changes of a club’s colour have occurred in bygone times, not after a hundred and odd years of playing in a particular colour, singing songs about that colour, giving your team a nickname referring to that colour etc.
For me it just shows a total lack of research, understanding and compassion for what football means to many people and demonstrates a scant disregard for the supporters and history of the club. If you have just bought a football club, surely the last thing you want to do is upset the supporters right from the off?
Changes to a stadium and its name are one thing, but changes to the team’s colours or its name are totally different. It’s one step away from franchising and the emergence of Team Manchester v The London Blue Sox.
So, if you’re a fan what do you do? Refuse to attend games, or protest at games until the owners make changes – knowing that your actions could be affecting the team’s performance on the pitch? And that’s the conundrum.
How sad.
Still , as long as the price is right clubs , and it seems some of their fans , will whore themselves out to whichever foreign syndicate comes along flashing the cash. A century of history changed by some bleedin foreigner who’s been there two minutes.
Of course it won’t stop at changing the colours. The more foreign owners that come into the game will mean it’s only a matter of time before some poor unfortunates will see their club being moved , Wimbledon style , to God only knows which part of the country.
:evil:
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, criticising purely foreign owners and suggesting they will throw away history without any thought is somewhat unfair.
If my memory serves meright it was Pete Winkleman (English) who moved Wimbledon to Milton Keynes and our own Dave Whelan (also English) got rid of Springfield Park and the 100 years of history that went with it.[/quote]
OK there comes a time when naturally you have to move on. If you think Springfield Park could be the home of Premier League football, then you are being as sarcastic that your post sounds. B)[/quote]
No sarcasm from me, although maybe a little tongue in cheek.
Springfield Park certainly could not host Premier League football, but then the town of Wigan isn’t capable of supporting (financially) a Premier League team either. We have one because we have an owner that bank rolled the club and continues to do so.
Cardiff are in the same, if not worse, position. Huge debts and unable to survive without wealthy owners. Those same owners want to generate maximum revenue (presumably to take the club forward) and they see the far east as a large market from which to generate that revenue. That market requires red shirts and a dragon, so that’s what they are doing.
They have little, or no regard for tradition, history or the social and community responsibilities of the club. They just want to make as much money as possible.
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