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8 May 2015 at 1:42 pm #142038
I reckon that in League One you have to hit the ground running and get up with the leading pack, I have noticed the last few seasons that whoever is in say the top 8 come the end of September is usually thereabouts come the final curtain! This was the case last season with all 6 top sides being in the top 8 at the end of September! We need to get a firm foothold early doors and send out a message that we are not done for yet!
8 May 2015 at 5:36 pm #142039Bleedin Eck Fil, when I saw that subject box I thought you’d fallen off yer ladder.
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What a journey!10 May 2015 at 1:15 pm #142062I take ityour coming back next season then fil
10 May 2015 at 2:35 pm #142064I reckon that in League One you have to hit the ground running and get up with the leading pack, I have noticed the last few seasons that whoever is in say the top 8 come the end of September is usually thereabouts come the final curtain! This was the case last season with all 6 top sides being in the top 8 at the end of September! We need to get a firm foothold early doors and send out a message that we are not done for yet!Not a chance fil unless we change formation. And I’m really confident that is all it will take coz we still have enough quality in the squad if only the hierarchy accept that the way we tried to play in the greedy league does not cut it in the football league. Go back to basics and I would really fancy us to be up there. Holt and Waghorn could be real assets if we go 2 up top in this league. Onward and upward if GC gets it right.
10 May 2015 at 3:24 pm #142067I take ityour coming back next season then filStill got an eye on things but Hell yeah I’ll be there, some of us JCL’s are still hanging in there! ;)
11 May 2015 at 2:23 am #142096New league, a new team (probably) and GC in charge. Can’t see us doing that well myself?
11 May 2015 at 10:20 am #142098At the moment we can all just speculate but hopefully we can do ok. All depends on Signings, pre-season, attitude, consistent team selection, playing players we sign, a strike partnership, fitness, coaching, a settled boardroom, positive football, home form and the only one of these last seasons shambles had… our support.
11 May 2015 at 2:28 pm #142100I reckon that in League One you have to hit the ground running and get up with the leading pack, I have noticed the last few seasons that whoever is in say the top 8 come the end of September is usually thereabouts come the final curtain! This was the case last season with all 6 top sides being in the top 8 at the end of September! We need to get a firm foothold early doors and send out a message that we are not done for yet!
Not a chance fil unless we change formation. And I’m really confident that is all it will take coz we still have enough quality in the squad if only the hierarchy accept that the way we tried to play in the greedy league does not cut it in the football league. Go back to basics and I would really fancy us to be up there. Holt and Waghorn could be real assets if we go 2 up top in this league. Onward and upward if GC gets it right.[/quote]
How do you know ‘it does not cut it in the footbal league’? We haven’t tried it!The second Coyle was appointed we started lunping the ball forwards – and that clearly didn’t work. Rosler got the ball on the floor, and that worked for a while, but then we started lumping it forwards again and we dropped like a stone.
If you’re expecting Caldwell to go big ‘un little ‘un with two wingers in a 4-4-2 formation, you’re going to be very disappointed.
From what he’s been saying about learning from previous coaches, I think he’s more likely to go three at the back with wing-backs and two strikers, or possible 3-4-3 with two ‘wide’ forwards.
11 May 2015 at 5:36 pm #142107I would argue that it is more difficult playing “possession” football in the lower leagues on the basis that the skill level required is a limiting factor on the players at your disposal.
This was evident at Brentford when they started to press us high up the pitch causing many forced errors. Caldwell will have to be very selective in his choice of players if he intends to play that way, which begs the question will that calibre of player be available to a League One club.
11 May 2015 at 5:59 pm #142108I would argue that it is more difficult playing “possession” football in the lower leagues on the basis that the skill level required is a limiting factor on the players at your disposal.This was evident at Brentford when they started to press us high up the pitch causing many forced errors. Caldwell will have to be very selective in his choice of players if he intends to play that way, which begs the question will that calibre of player be available to a League One club.
A certain Mr. Martinez guided Swansea to promotion from League 1 as Champions by playing possession football.
12 May 2015 at 12:49 am #142111I reckon that in League One you have to hit the ground running and get up with the leading pack, I have noticed the last few seasons that whoever is in say the top 8 come the end of September is usually thereabouts come the final curtain! This was the case last season with all 6 top sides being in the top 8 at the end of September! We need to get a firm foothold early doors and send out a message that we are not done for yet!
Not a chance fil unless we change formation. And I’m really confident that is all it will take coz we still have enough quality in the squad if only the hierarchy accept that the way we tried to play in the greedy league does not cut it in the football league. Go back to basics and I would really fancy us to be up there. Holt and Waghorn could be real assets if we go 2 up top in this league. Onward and upward if GC gets it right.[/quote]
How do you know ‘it does not cut it in the footbal league’? We haven’t tried it!The second Coyle was appointed we started lunping the ball forwards – and that clearly didn’t work. Rosler got the ball on the floor, and that worked for a while, but then we started lumping it forwards again and we dropped like a stone.
If you’re expecting Caldwell to go big ‘un little ‘un with two wingers in a 4-4-2 formation, you’re going to be very disappointed.
From what he’s been saying about learning from previous coaches, I think he’s more likely to go three at the back with wing-backs and two strikers, or possible 3-4-3 with two ‘wide’ forwards.[/quote]
But Standish as I see it the problem is when you play teams playing 2 banks of 4 then any lone striker is going to find it difficult to be effective. For me the most damming statement from last season was when we got battered at Bournemouth and Eddie Howe said he could not believe how we were set up and knew that they were going to win the game. Look at teams who have come down and struggled in the first season. They do not adapt to how the opposition play and cannot cope. And if as you say Gary does indeed go with the aforementioned formation then we could easy struggle again. The majority of teams in the league will play 4-4-2 and up to now we have made a right balls up of countering it. Why is it that there seems to be such a stigma for this club to go back to standard 4-4-2?.
12 May 2015 at 1:35 am #142112The 1-9 and 0-8 is the right way surely Nuneaton.
12 May 2015 at 3:07 am #142113I would argue that it is more difficult playing “possession” football in the lower leagues on the basis that the skill level required is a limiting factor on the players at your disposal.
This was evident at Brentford when they started to press us high up the pitch causing many forced errors. Caldwell will have to be very selective in his choice of players if he intends to play that way, which begs the question will that calibre of player be available to a League One club.
A certain Mr. Martinez guided Swansea to promotion from League 1 as Champions by playing possession football.[/quote]
A good number of the Swansea squad that won promotion under Martinez were also around when promotion to the PL was achieved, which sort of proves my point.
12 May 2015 at 10:21 am #142114It is a good point Sammy and one way of going forward and that is the point really. This passing game can look fantastic when going forward and if a side has midfielders or wing backs in the side who attack the opposition defence and push forward. All too often it can work the other way with midfielders tailing off too deep and not supporting the forwards and defenders who are not of the highest quality passing for passings sake and losing possession and drawing the midfielders into defence. But yes, great if we got this right it would be fantastic but it will take an incredible effort on the training ground as well as on the field to do this.
12 May 2015 at 1:30 pm #142115A good number of the Swansea squad that won promotion under Martinez were also around when promotion to the PL was achieved, which sort of proves my point.Which would suggest to me that it can be achieved with young, malleable players rather than the battle-hardened old pros that Coyle and Mackay seemed to prefer.
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