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    Said this before, a million times. If you can’t tackle, pass, or hit a cow’s arse with a banjo it matters little what formation you nominally line up in.

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    horchorc
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      Said this before, a million times. If you can’t tackle, pass, or hit a cow’s arse with a banjo it matters little what formation you nominally line up in.

      And there lies the problem Griff.
      We haven’t had midfielder since Macarthur that can tackle, we’ve not had a forward that can hit a cows arse with a banjo, but we have a team full of players that can all pass a ball pretty well, but unfortunately only sideways and backwards.

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      Said this before, a million times. If you can’t tackle, pass, or hit a cow’s arse with a banjo it matters little what formation you nominally line up in.

      And there lies the problem Griff.
      We haven’t had midfielder since Macarthur that can tackle, we’ve not had a forward that can hit a cows arse with a banjo, but we have a team full of players that can all pass a ball pretty well, but unfortunately only sideways and backwards.[/quote]

      You may well be right, in fact you probably are. Actually, I’d disagree slightly because I’m not sure we have a team full of players who can pass that well, either. Certainly not as well as we used to.

      But, all that changing to 442 would mean is that we would have two up front not being able to hit a cow’s arse and less people in midfield not being able to pass to them. Also, less players in midfield not being able to tackle therefore meaning we see less of the ball to not give to the two lads for them to miss that cow’s arse.

      #142121
      SammySammy
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        A good number of the Swansea squad that won promotion under Martinez were also around when promotion to the PL was achieved, which sort of proves my point.

        Which would suggest to me that it can be achieved with young, malleable players rather than the battle-hardened old pros that Coyle and Mackay seemed to prefer.[/quote]

        Jewell had a hungry and determined squad when we moved up the divisions to the PL although playing a different style to the possession football Martinez employed.
        The question is whether Wigan Athletic can still attract the calibre of player to repeat what Jewell and Swansea did.

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        horchorc
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          A good number of the Swansea squad that won promotion under Martinez were also around when promotion to the PL was achieved, which sort of proves my point.

          Which would suggest to me that it can be achieved with young, malleable players rather than the battle-hardened old pros that Coyle and Mackay seemed to prefer.[/quote]

          Jewell had a hungry and determined squad when we moved up the divisions to the PL although playing a different style to the possession football Martinez employed.
          The question is whether Wigan Athletic can still attract the calibre of player to repeat what Jewell and Swansea did.[/quote]

          If any club in League one has the pulling power to attract the right calibre of players it should be us.
          Paul Jewell got a great team and squad together for relatively little money, lets hope the board and Gary Caldwell do it over the summer.
          They don’t have to be big name players as Paul Jewell prooved, they just have to be half decent players who are hungry and up for the challenge and willing to show a bit of pride in wearing the Wigan Athletic kit.
          Roll on August, it can’t come quick enough for me.

          #142139
          SammySammy
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            A good number of the Swansea squad that won promotion under Martinez were also around when promotion to the PL was achieved, which sort of proves my point.

            Which would suggest to me that it can be achieved with young, malleable players rather than the battle-hardened old pros that Coyle and Mackay seemed to prefer.[/quote]

            Jewell had a hungry and determined squad when we moved up the divisions to the PL although playing a different style to the possession football Martinez employed.
            The question is whether Wigan Athletic can still attract the calibre of player to repeat what Jewell and Swansea did.[/quote]

            If any club in League one has the pulling power to attract the right calibre of players it should be us.
            Paul Jewell got a great team and squad together for relatively little money, lets hope the board and Gary Caldwell do it over the summer.
            They don’t have to be big name players as Paul Jewell prooved, they just have to be half decent players who are hungry and up for the challenge and willing to show a bit of pride in wearing the Wigan Athletic kit.
            Roll on August, it can’t come quick enough for me.[/quote]

            The team that won the second division title under Jewell in the 2002-2003 season was assembled at a cost of about £6m, which equates to about £9m in today’s money. That was a very significant investment for a League One club. Some of those players were Premier League quality; McCulloch, Ellington, Bullard, Filan, not to mention the up and coming Leighton Baines.

            I wish Gary Caldwell the best of luck and both he and Wigan Athletic will get my full support next season but to think that same level of investment will be forthcoming and that same calibre of player will be attracted to a club that is heading in the opposite direction to the one back then is, in my view, optimistic.

            #142141
            donnys pageDonnys Page
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              Its up to Dave really. He owns the club and seems just as rich or richer than he was in Jewels day. Just up to Dave if he wants to gamble a tiny bit of his fortune.

              #142147
              SammySammy
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                Its up to Dave really. He owns the club and seems just as rich or richer than he was in Jewels day. Just up to Dave if he wants to gamble a tiny bit of his fortune.

                Whelan already gambled quite a bit of his fortune to realise the dream he set out to achieve. Whether he still has the desire or inclination at pushing eighty to bankroll the club and try and do it all again is another matter.

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                Its up to Dave really. He owns the club and seems just as rich or richer than he was in Jewels day. Just up to Dave if he wants to gamble a tiny bit of his fortune.

                Whelan already gambled quite a bit of his fortune to realise the dream he set out to achieve. Whether he still has the desire or inclination at pushing eighty to bankroll the club and try and do it all again is another matter.[/quote]

                And I, for one, wouldn’t blame him if he didn’t.

                When the parachute payments dry up, if we want to have a club to support, going forward, then people are going to have to accept a very different financial landscape.

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