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I’m with Egg on this. Although I dislike the rugby (I wouldn’t go so far as to say hate), we cannot blame our s*** performances in any way on them or the pitch.
FFS we were away yesterday!!
I was more referring to the point that the pitch is nice and green when the rugby season ends and a sh*thole when it starts.
I’m with Egg on this. Although I dislike the rugby (I wouldn’t go so far as to say hate), we cannot blame our s*** performances in any way on them or the pitch.FFS we were away yesterday!!
And playing on a decent winter sports pitch that is rested in summer.
I’m with Egg on this. Although I dislike the rugby (I wouldn’t go so far as to say hate), we cannot blame our s*** performances in any way on them or the pitch.
FFS we were away yesterday!!
And playing on a decent winter sports pitch that is rested in summer.[/quote]
We could play one match on it in August and come December it would look s***. It’s built on a bog next to a canal and a river.
Whelan ‘Stopped putting his personal fortune in’ around 2008…..He put PL money and Sky tv money in…..
Whelan has taken out far more than he ever put in.
PL money + tv money + player sales between 2006 and 2013 was over £500 MILLION QUID.
Whelan has screwed us over.
I honestly didn’t think there were still people around who believed this.
In the real world, the turnover between 2006 and 2013 was £359m (that’s all TV and PL money plus net profit from player sales. Google it. You’ll find all the financial statements online)
Salaries alone have totaled £320m in that time.
So that’s £4.8m per season for all the other expenses occurred in running a football club.
Plus the fact that Whelan has written off much of the debt that stood at around £78m by 2010.
To say Whelan has been fleecing the club is ludicrous.
Whelan ‘Stopped putting his personal fortune in’ around 2008…..
He put PL money and Sky tv money in…..
Whelan has taken out far more than he ever put in.
PL money + tv money + player sales between 2006 and 2013 was over £500 MILLION QUID.
Whelan has screwed us over.
I honestly didn’t think there still people around who believed this.
In the real world, the turnover between 2006 and 2013 was £359m (that’s all TV and PL money plus net profit from player sales. Google it. You’ll find all the financial statements online)
Salaries alone have totaled £320m in that time.
So that’s £4.8m per season for all the other expenses occurred in running a football club.
Plus the fact that Whelan has written off much of the debt that stood at around £78m by 2010.
To say Whelan has been fleecing the club is ludicrous.[/quote]
None of that matters to some on here Standish they only see relegation from the Prem due to Mr Whelan fleecing the club. He didn’t even save the club according to some. I find it insane that any fan of Wigan Athletic can even speak about Mr Whelan in s negative manner. We could never sustain a permanent place at the top table yet amazed all by being in there for so long. In my time as a Latics fan nobody has done more for my club than Uncle Dave and I hold the man in the highest esteem.
Now ill sit back while someone comes back with a reply making out he is the antichrist.
The situation is bizarre. We lose a fortune this year going down instead of staying up.
Nobody seems arsed.Birmingham away & Bristol City at home in their current form should be 6 points if we set up right. I wouldn’t put anyone off backing 2 x 0-0 though.
The majority of abuse leveled at Joyce at the moment concerns his defensive tactics, in particular his decision to use 4 centre midfielders across the middle. I think he’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. If he plays one upfront he gets stick, if he plays two upfront he gets stick. Grigg should play every game in the opinion of some – despite offering nothing all season. Joyce is obviously aware that we are a poor team and is wary of setting up to be attacking. The reason for this is obvious: the same thing will happen that was happening under Caldwell. Better teams will deal with our threats and then easily pick us apart. At least Joyce has made us difficult to beat. The defence has been solid since he came in and across that unadventurous and boring midfield we have at least some players who will get stuck in and fight for the ball. It’s boring to watch but there is a reason for it. He has taken the calculated risk that if we play this way we can pick up enough wins to survive. Obviously this isn’t happening and his hand is going to be forced into taking more risks – this will probably happen this week. What those risks will be isn’t clear. Do we start with Obertan on the wing? Bring Weir back in? Gilbey could return in the centre of midfield? Grigg upfront with Bogle? I can’t see any of those options being a magic remedy. We have struggled all season because the options available to both managers have been poor. We have a weak team that isn’t, despite all their efforts, good enough.I think give the guy a chance. If we go down let him rebuild in the summer and try again. These are difficult times for the club and things will get harder post parachute payments. We need to stick by a manager and give him some time. Chopping and changing every six months will never work.
If you play one up front that forward needs either width or attacking midfielders to support him Joyce doesn’t seem to think so hence the stick he gets. His sole ambition is to stifle the oppositions midfield. As long as this happens and we don’t lose then that’s OK.
Problem is , we do.If you bring in better quality players on loan in Jan make sure their fit to play or at least a week or so off. Who did their medicals ? especially Bruce, They want a word in their ear. 5weeks in Obertan is still weeks off, pointless signing. Weir (Joyce’s golden harse at Utd) admitted himself he is out of shape due to the lack of football which doesn’t help our cause one iota which showed by constantly giving the ball away.
Quote Joyce on signing Obertan;-
“He adds great experience to the squad and offers us another option in the wide areas.”But a few weeks later he tells the press I see him as a forward and brings him on the other week as a forward,
Is Hanson better than Flores ? so why ?,
Every player we pay coin for we loan out, then, straight away bring loan players in , why ?It’s not all Joyce’s fault , the guys upstairs are making just as many fook up’s but for me, the tactics don’t suit the players so you either get rid of every player
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the manager
In all my years watching Latics he has got to be about the worse manager we’ve ever had and I’ve seen some tripe.At least in the past we might of have lost through stupid individual mistakes or the odd stupid managerial decision or plain old lack of quality but still in those dark times we still managed to look like a football team trying and score the odd goal and fighting all the way.
The way we play is about as bad as you get, leaking, not scoring , losing regular and not once ounce of skill along the way.Then finally, I have always thought our squad was up there in this division but now I am questioning that and glad to see Barrow has said the same.
Blackburn should have been 3pts….if we set up right !!…Pray we can bag six myself….but this has gone on since he arrived and can you really see this team beating anyone with the present management???….Blackburn icing on the cake for me when it finally dawned how s@@@ we have become.He should have been dumped 3 or 4 games ago and here we are…limping along ..games running out and still the same insipid, uninspiring tosh served up.Every game is winnable…but not for him , and us .
I think he will confound his critics by adopting plan B, revert to 3-4-3 system, have a fantastic run-in playing “tippy-tappy” football by beating the likes of Newcastle, Brighton and Reading away thereby avoiding relegation when everyone else thought we were doomed.
I think he will confound his critics by adopting plan B, revert to 3-4-3 system, have a fantastic run-in playing “tippy-tappy” football by beating the likes of Newcastle, Brighton and Reading away thereby avoiding relegation when everyone else thought we were doomed.And I bet we show great style and phenomenal character
I think he will confound his critics by adopting plan B, revert to 3-4-3 system, have a fantastic run-in playing “tippy-tappy” football by beating the likes of Newcastle, Brighton and Reading away thereby avoiding relegation when everyone else thought we were doomed.
And I bet we show great style and phenomenal character[/quote]
…and impose themselves with real intensity.
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