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16 August 2016 at 5:50 pm #149977In an ideal world, this would happen, but as has been demonstrated with cup games that cost £10 or £15, folk just wont pay to watch something that they can do without.
This is not a swipe at WAFC, but a fact – the folk of Wigan do not have much disposable income, and even if the games were £10, then I doubt many would be tempted (as borne out by cup attendances). For many, watching live sport is not an option any more.
Your ST prices were fantastic value, and the club should be commended for providing such fantastic value. £179 for an adult and a kid to watch 23 games is a great price, yet despite this, less than half the stadium is filled with ST holders.
By charging £20 and £25 for the casual fan, it means the club can then charge visiting supporters that figure. Around 20% of the average attendance this season will be visiting supporters, and if they can be charged £25, it will help keep your ST prices lower. Away fans will not begrudge paying £25 or even £30 at the DW when the likes of Sheff Wed fleece them for £42.
Hang on a moment, i think i might need to make an appointment with the Dr here. But, i am going to agree with you on this one mutty. The only difference i would make is charge the away supporters £25, but charge home fans £15 – £20.
16 August 2016 at 7:40 pm #149978In an ideal world, this would happen, but as has been demonstrated with cup games that cost £10 or £15, folk just wont pay to watch something that they can do without.
This is not a swipe at WAFC, but a fact – the folk of Wigan do not have much disposable income, and even if the games were £10, then I doubt many would be tempted (as borne out by cup attendances). For many, watching live sport is not an option any more.
Your ST prices were fantastic value, and the club should be commended for providing such fantastic value. £179 for an adult and a kid to watch 23 games is a great price, yet despite this, less than half the stadium is filled with ST holders.
By charging £20 and £25 for the casual fan, it means the club can then charge visiting supporters that figure. Around 20% of the average attendance this season will be visiting supporters, and if they can be charged £25, it will help keep your ST prices lower. Away fans will not begrudge paying £25 or even £30 at the DW when the likes of Sheff Wed fleece them for £42.
Hang on a moment, i think i might need to make an appointment with the Dr here. But, i am going to agree with you on this one mutty. The only difference i would make is charge the away supporters £25, but charge home fans £15 – £20.[/quote]
As much as I think the guy’s a reet plant pot I remember listening to a phone in on talksport years ago with the then Palace chairman, Simon Jordan.
Anyway, as you’d expect, quite a few Palace fans phoned in & this was back in the days (2007ish) when they weren’t much cop, were flirting with administration on & off & they’re crowds weren’t the best.
One of the Palace fans suggested to him what one of the posters has done on here i.e. dropping prices across the board to encourage more fans to turn up on matchdays with the argument that any loss in money charged per person would be offset by more through the turnstiles who in turn would spend more once inside.
Simon Jordan replied that they’d tried it on numerous occasions & it didn’t work – that whilst you may get a few more in it doesn’t cover the lower admission charge & the type who do turn up aren’t the type that go spending loads at the bar once they’re inside.
Like Mutty has said, Jordan said that what they try to do was price the games at a level that doesn’t put loyal home fans off but which allows them to take advantage of the increased loyalty of the away fans without putting them off too.
i suspect that Latics have tried to entice people with the very low ST prices so as to be able to guarantee an known income level even if the season is a disaster & we wind up facing relegation, whilst also not being too high to put off more casual supporters if the season is a success. And like Mutty says being able to take advantage of the higher away followings in this division – didn’t Jonathan Jackson say last season that away followings had dropped by 75% from Championship levels?? For Latics that is a hell of a lot of money16 August 2016 at 8:24 pm #149979At cup games Muts most clubs can not even attract all their season ticket holders to put their ten and fifteen quid through the turnstiles.
Would be interesting to know if the proportion ofof season ticket holders to casual visitors in a third round FA Cup game was similar to season ticket holders/casuals at a £27 match against Blackburn.16 August 2016 at 8:35 pm #149980…….The only difference i would make is charge the away supporters £25, but charge home fans £15 – £20.Not allowed.
“34.2.8 No Club shall charge higher admission prices for visiting supporters for accommodation that is ranked as comparable with or inferior to that used by supporters of the Home Club in the same or next highest ranked accommodation. For the purposes of this Regulation, accommodation shall be allocated a ranking as indicated by the table below (where 1 represents the best available and 6 the lowest) having
regard to the following criteria:(a) Covered seating;
(b) Uncovered seating;
(c) Covered terracing;
(d) Uncovered terracing;
(e) Behind the touchline;
(f) Behind the goal line; and
(g) In the corners of the stadium (i.e. behind both the touchline and the goal line)”
16 August 2016 at 10:02 pm #149982I really want to know what has happened to the real mutty.I find myself agreeing more and more. :)
Ha ha!
Coming from a working environment where I am expected to provide maximum effect for the finite amount of money available, then the subject of supply & demand and dynamic pricing is something I am familiar with. That and, apart from Bullit’s comment, the debate has kept on topic without resorting to petty insults.
The pricing at WAFC is largely following the simple laws of economics – charge your regular customer (ST Holders) a price that will keep them coming back (and spending within your store), and charge as much as you can get away with for those (away fans) who would never buy from you again even if it were free, but need their one-off purchase. Those who may come back (floating fans) again will only be persuaded to return by the product on offer (ie performance on the pitch).
16 August 2016 at 10:51 pm #149983I really want to know what has happened to the real mutty.
I find myself agreeing more and more. :)
Ha ha!
Coming from a working environment where I am expected to provide maximum effect for the finite amount of money available, then the subject of supply & demand and dynamic pricing is something I am familiar with. That and, apart from Bullit’s comment, the debate has kept on topic without resorting to petty insults.
The pricing at WAFC is largely following the simple laws of economics – charge your regular customer (ST Holders) a price that will keep them coming back (and spending within your store), and charge as much as you can get away with for those (away fans) who would never buy from you again even if it were free, but need their one-off purchase. Those who may come back (floating fans) again will only be persuaded to return by the product on offer (ie performance on the pitch).[/quote]
Alright we get the gist no need to fucking milk it!
Fuck the EFL
17 August 2016 at 4:34 am #149986Easy one then Mutty Shite. Cat A games or games where the away may sell out £40 a ticket.
Cat B games any other than the two or so other matches a season that may sell out no more than £15.
This would encourage away fans to travel and put more fans on home end seats.17 August 2016 at 12:18 pm #149987If you truly believe that, can you explain why Latics v Birmingham attracted around 200 less casual home fans than the Blackburn game when it was £5 cheaper?
17 August 2016 at 2:15 pm #149990If you truly believe that, can you explain why Latics v Birmingham attracted around 200 less casual home fans than the Blackburn game when it was £5 cheaper?Midweek game when many more have work commitments as opposed to Saturday not really rocket science is it? I myself finished work at 8pm and I thought you were a driver mutt.
17 August 2016 at 2:29 pm #149994Well Smuts how the hell did you work that out without knowing how many season tickets we have sold.
17 August 2016 at 2:38 pm #149996Well Smuts how the hell did you work that out without knowing how many season tickets we have sold.He makes stuff up, I thought everybody knew that.
17 August 2016 at 2:54 pm #149998Well Smuts how the hell did you work that out without knowing how many season tickets we have sold.The number of ST sold is irrelevant, as all ST are counted as having attended every game – we’ve done this bit to death before.
Blackburn brought 2400, which leaves 10,000 ST holders + casual home fans.
Birmingham brought 1300, which leaves 9800 ST holders + casual home fans.
As ST figure is the same for both, then the only difference is casual attendees.
17 August 2016 at 2:55 pm #149999If you truly believe that, can you explain why Latics v Birmingham attracted around 200 less casual home fans than the Blackburn game when it was £5 cheaper?
Midweek game when many more have work commitments as opposed to Saturday not really rocket science is it? I myself finished work at 8pm and I thought you were a driver mutt.[/quote]
As a ST holder, whether or not you attend is irrelevant as you get included.
17 August 2016 at 4:01 pm #150005If you truly believe that, can you explain why Latics v Birmingham attracted around 200 less casual home fans than the Blackburn game when it was £5 cheaper?
Midweek game when many more have work commitments as opposed to Saturday not really rocket science is it? I myself finished work at 8pm and I thought you were a driver mutt.[/quote]
As a ST holder, whether or not you attend is irrelevant as you get included.[/quote]
Whoa lad,you said and I quote “200 less casual fans” what has that to do with st numbers?. Also mutt you have to take into account that Man Ure have spent zillions and have God in charge so all the plastic mancs have suddenly come out from their hidey holes again claiming their life long allegiance to the media junkies coz they smell success. These chameleon type creatures can change colour in a flash and this seasons colour is red the devils. Maddening but true.
17 August 2016 at 4:12 pm #150007You do not get included if you don’t attend due to health and safety reasons
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