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Personally I don’t know what can be done to stop it. I would imagine that it is tough to charge someone with suspected terror offences without actual evidence of them building bombs or planning attacks which is why it doesn’t happen very often. Despite what some people have been saying on here and social media; you can’t arrest every muslim or foreign looking individual who carries a bag or wears a padded coat.
The police do need a longer leash when it comes to investigations though I think than with most crimes. Living here and planning an attack here is, in my opinion, an act of treason and that should remove any human rights you may feel you have.
As with all things now though they have to get it right or the suspects walk free or we waste time investigating the wrong people.
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Personally I don’t know what can be done to stop it. I would imagine that it is tough to charge someone with suspected terror offences without actual evidence of them building bombs or planning attacks which is why it doesn’t happen very often. Despite what some people have been saying on here and social media; you can’t arrest every muslim or foreign looking individual who carries a bag or wears a padded coat.
The police do need a longer leash when it comes to investigations though I think than with most crimes. Living here and planning an attack here is, in my opinion, an act of treason and that should remove any human rights you may feel you have.
As with all things now though they have to get it right or the suspects walk free or we waste time investigating the wrong people.[/quote]
Egg,Islamic terrorists don’t play by any rules the sole aim of any attack is to kill and maim as many as is humanly possible in one act. They don’t discriminate they don’t give warnings they don’t give chances to get safe. They murder on enormous scales and take great joy and satisfaction out of their cowardly acts. Why then should they be able to hide behind human rights and pc defences. Big boys games big boys rules. I doubt any real recriminations will be dished out until the USA suffers another attack on the scale of 9-11 then nobody will stop the Yanks exacting revenge. The World needs separate laws for terrorism they have to be brutal with zero tolerance and they have to be global.
Islamic terrorists don’t play by any rules the sole aim of any attack is to kill and maim as many as is humanly possible in one act. They don’t discriminate they don’t give warnings they don’t give chances to get safe. They murder on enormous scales and take great joy and satisfaction out of their cowardly acts. Why then should they be able to hide behind human rights and pc defences.Which is exactly what I said. The police need to be able to investigate this properly and to any degree but that doesn’t mean you can torture any muslim you want. You have to make sure they are connected to something first at which point it becomes “by any means necessary”.
Islamic terrorists don’t play by any rules the sole aim of any attack is to kill and maim as many as is humanly possible in one act. They don’t discriminate they don’t give warnings they don’t give chances to get safe. They murder on enormous scales and take great joy and satisfaction out of their cowardly acts. Why then should they be able to hide behind human rights and pc defences.
Which is exactly what I said. The police need to be able to investigate this properly and to any degree but that doesn’t mean you can torture any muslim you want. You have to make sure they are connected to something first at which point it becomes “by any means necessary”.[/quote]
These bastards murder as many Muslims as non Muslim. I totally agree that you cannot lay the blame at the faith. You have to act to each individual no matter what race or beliefs. Terrorism is terrorism end of. Islamic extremists or Basque seperatives the laws and punishment must be the same across the board.
It seems to me that every time there is an atrocity like this, it always comes out that the perpetrator is known, or is being monitored by the security forces.
Why does this happen? Why, if a person has been linked or is being monitored for suspected terrorist activities is he/she still allowed to be walking around on the streets of Gt Britain.
If they are foreign nationals, deport them, if they are British citizens jail the bastards. Any relative, friend or accomplice who aids or supports them in any way should also be dealt with accordingly.
A new set of laws needs setting up, with proper consequences for any individual to be known to have any link whats over, no matter how small to any form of hate crime or terrorism.
This should be irrespective of what religion the person is.
Surely the security forces have the intelligence and capability to weed more of these people out. Close down web pages, infiltrate any organisation whether it is political or religious with undercover agents to get the evidence and give the courts the power to deal with them properly.
Stop mamby pambying around, making excuses and letting them get away with it time and time again.
Half of my team at work are muslim. They are more upset about this type of act than the other members of the team, because they know some people in this country tar all muslims with the same brush, and they are very wary of vigilantes and retribution attacks.
All religions and races have nut jobs, and we shouldn’t be brainwashed into thinking all mass murders in the UK have been carried out by muslim terrorists. Hungerford, Dunblane and Whitehaven instantly spring to mind.
“Known to police” is such a blanket statement though that just means they have you on file for something. A simple speeding ticket will do that.
IF they are known to be on terror watch lists then yes there needs to be questioned asked but as with anything, what the media say and what is true are totally different things especially when it isn’t even our media reporting it.
EDIT – Turns out we have confirmed it
If people were more aware of ‘Wahhabism’ then maybe they wouldn’t be coming out with these sweeping statements about getting rid of all the Muslims and banning Islam etc !
and we shouldn’t be brainwashed into thinking all mass murders in the UK have been carried out by muslim terrorists. Hungerford, Dunblane and Whitehaven instantly spring to mind.The difference is Mutley, Hungerford. Dunblane and Whitehaven were carried out by lone nutjobs. The nature of Islamic terrorism is that it’s about ideology and the sad fact is, is that it is estimated that between 15% and 25% of the worlds Muslims despise the west, so no need to panic.
bit harsh to deport the family could be perfect cityzens and where do you deport them if they English?The brother of the bastard who killed all those innocent people in Manchester on Monday knew of the plans for the attack. He himself was planning his own terrorist attack in Tripoli.
Still think its harsh Stu?.
and we shouldn’t be brainwashed into thinking all mass murders in the UK have been carried out by muslim terrorists. Hungerford, Dunblane and Whitehaven instantly spring to mind.
The difference is Mutley, Hungerford. Dunblane and Whitehaven were carried out by lone nutjobs. The nature of Islamic terrorism is that it’s about ideology and the sad fact is, is that it is estimated that between 15% and 25% of the worlds Muslims despise the west, so no need to panic.[/quote]
And 75% of statistics are made up on the spot!!
bit harsh to deport the family could be perfect cityzens and where do you deport them if they English?
The brother of the bastard who killed all those innocent people in Manchester on Monday knew of the plans for the attack. He himself was planning his own terrorist attack in Tripoli.
Still think its harsh Stu?.[/quote]
Didn’t some of his family members contact security services with concerns about him? I know members of his mosque including the Imam did, as did some of his friends!
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