Meanwhile….Over on chubby-ville.com

Like the majority of Salford and Manchester :blink:

Seems to have gone quiet since perspective was given!!!

Roughly how many of your 11-12,000 ST holders went to all of those games? My guess is less than 500. My guess is that the majority of those would have turned up to watch the FA Cup tie too, as they are the loyal fans, not the Johnny-Come-Latelys.

It was a first team game in the worlds oldest knockout competition. Just because your manager chose to treat it with contempt doesnt make it a reserve game, or a pre-season friendly.

Warriors had around 10,500 ST Holders last season – 7,232 is just over 3,000, not 6,000. It was on Tv. The prices for this game were slightly higher than the ones for the Wigan v Bournemouth game. And of course, it wasnt a quarter final, it was a game where even the losers got another chance of progressing to the next stage.

After all these years you have now at least admitted that you know there are more supporters of Wigan Athletic than Wigan Warriors, realisation has at last kicked in. Even the most ardent fan was clinging on to the hope that we had the same…….

No matter how you spin it, we played a reserve/development squad against Bournemouth and it was no secret. I’ll watch a team in a Wigan shirt against anybody, but I am not going to make excuses regarding those that didn’t go, it is their choice and they obviously want to see the first team play (or maybe it isn’t obvious!!!).

I don’t pretend to understand your play off system, but in my eyes if you are three matches away from winning a final, you are in the quarter finals (whose making excuses here?). Is a better comparison the 4,198 you had on against the North Wales Crusaders in the Challenge Cup – your equivalent Cup….. If we make it to the fifth round with a home draw, lets see if we can then make a comparison to the Catalan game or the 12,000 you had against Leeds in the semis of the CCC.

Totally hypothetical argument regarding the quarter final crowd, but if you are suggesting that the visitors brought nobody it shows what a state the RL sport is in if true.

Deep breaths LOTP, deep breaths

Nice try Mr Taylor, but you are mistaken! Here’s why:

I dont think there has ever been any doubt that there are more Season Ticket Holders for Wigan Athletic since they reached the Premier League. At £250 for 19 games, including about 6 games where a ticket would set you back close to £30, then it represents fantastic value, as you are effectively paying £70 to watch the remaining 13 PL fixtures (I take it everyone shows up for the big 6 games. Compare that to a Warriors ST, where for a similar price of £200, you get 13 or 14 games.

The key difference is that the match day tickets for rugby dont fluctuate due to the opponents – a ticket to watch Wigan v Saints will cost the same as Wigan v London. This means that there is less incentive to purchase a ST for the rugby than football, as the savings against purchasing a match-day ticket for every game are only around 22%.

The number of home fans attending each game is pretty much the same – around 13,000 – its just 3,000 buy match day tickets for the rugby and around 1,000 buy match day tickets for the football.

Now, I’m basing my assumption that Wigan Athletic have 12,000 ST holders on the crowds that seem to show up for “regular” fixtures. Unless there is some BOGOF or freebie issue, then I would expect your attendance next Sat to be around 18,000 (13500 less the 4500 that will be following the away side). As far as I’m aware, the number of ST holders has never been officially reported. If you can disprove me with an official quote that there are far less than 12,000, then I will happily re-amend my figures.

Over to you….

I have never seen you admit we had more support, so how am I wrong? But anyway, that wasn’t the point we were trying to iron out, I threw that in as an observation.

So as you haven’t challenged the rest of my post I assume you conceded that I am right about both team’s fans don’t really turn out for the early rounds of the Cup (but at least our fans had the added excuse that we field reserve sides), thanks.

How about your one and only major semi-final? Remind me and the rest of the goons on here who applaud your every word what the crowd was for that game….

12,181 in the first leg – 34,692 in the second.

Similar to your more recent semi final where only 12,860 turned up last year, 12,700 in 2011 or 12,975 in 2009 – with 50/50 crowd splits between the two teams.

Your point is what?

It seems to me your hatred of Latics is borne out of the fact that we don’t get good crowds. You MUST realise that crowds don’t guarantee results, only the team on the pitch can influence that – though I will take the point that a larger more vocal home crowd could raise some players games.

But when it boils down, you can keep coming on here and slating Latics crowds from a Rugby perspective and I will keep coming back on here and knocking you down, because it is futile. Twenty years ago you could have done this and won nearly every post because of the gulf between the two clubs, that gulf isn’t there any more.

We have two teams that are now supported by similar amounts of spectators and so the crowd issue (unfortunately for you) does not affect us any more. If you want me to be pedantic, I could say Latics have been the most successful sports team in recent times because of the crowd increase over the last 15 years and the figures are there for every one to see.

I used to watch WRLFC for many, many years and I stopped because of the complete lack of respect the WRLFC Board showed to Latics. I have got over that now as the Wigan Warriors is in no way shape or form the same CLUB that was around in those days, I wish them the best though I will not physically be in the ground to applaud them, I have no interest in the SPORT anymore (you can thank Robinson, Lindsey and co for that) – but I will always want anything/one/team representing Wigan to win.

You would have greater chances of wining a crowd related thread on here if you cam from your Sunderland perspective, but even there, as with your Rugby stance, there isn’t much common ground to go on.

As for calling me/us GOONS, name calling is always the last resort of someone who knows they have lost their argument.

Carry this on if you wish, but I won’t be embarrassing you anymore by dragging up the past to show you that there are nearly always similar or worse episodes in the Rugby archives.