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Perhpas Sharner wasn’t booed off because so many of the crowd were in the process of telling him to f*** off and never put a Latics shirt on again.
His gutless performance ranks up there with the occasions when Simon Howarth spat out his dummy.
He is a senior player, his attitude stinks, which can only have a negative effect on the rest of the squad.
Yeah…Insulting our longest serving player and cheering his exit. Great. Have a bad game and latics fans hate you… No wonder people don’t want to sign and no wonder players want to leave.Did Mike Pollitt play?
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the reaction to his substitution, stomping off down the tunnel to sulk is bang out of order. He should have been forced to watch like the rest of us. Hope Martinez holds him to account. When you look at his attitude compared to Michael Brown’s, I know who’d I’d rather have in a relegation scrap…
He might have been willing to put his foot in at one time but he bottled it tonight on a few occasions. He may have been here a few years but his comments in the press about the mental strength of his team-mates and his willingnes to get away meant any respect that was there for him from me went a long time ago.
There’s no place at Wigan Athletic for jumped-up, self-important players who aren’t willing to put a shift in. The manager has to take a lot of the blame for putting some players in the firing line and the position they found themselves in. Json Scotland with his 1 in 30 strike rate should have been jettisoned in the transfer window and people like Scharner should have been disciplined accordingly.
That atmosphere tonight was not nice to be in to support our team but I think even the most patient and knowledgeable fan can see we’re rotten at the moment with in-fighting aplenty.
If fans want to applaud a player who was pulling out of tackles, not chasing down, and passing the blaim onto a young player in McCarthy, let them.
In my book there is a very big difference between a player putting in a poor performace, and one who shows contempt for his teammates, the club, and the fans.
The moment really started to suspect Bobby wasn’t the right man for the job was the moment he picked Scharner in an attacking midfield role 2 days after a certain Mr Scharner told the press that that was where he should be playing
Pish weak management in my book
Jewell played him in midfield most of the 06/07 season & wound up in a relegation scrap, Hutchings played him there & got sacked after 14 games. Bruce told him that if he wanted a place in his team he’d be playing at centre half & we progressed. Bobby has switched him back there & we’ve been awful again – Can anyone see the link there
Do you think he’ll spit his dummy and not appear for us again?
And for James to note – there was cheering at the DW tonight…. when that board was held up.
Straight down the tunnel he went. A legend in his own mind.
Yeah…Insulting our longest serving player and cheering his exit. Great. Have a bad game and latics fans hate you… No wonder people don’t want to sign and no wonder players want to leave.[/quote]
Very busy today and was intending to make a brief visit to comment on one topic. I have read just two posts; Garswood’s and JamesC’s.
I spent the whole of the time in the period between the team being announced and kick-off bemoaning the fact that Scharner had been picked.
I spent the whole of the time between kick-off and his substitution praying he would be taken off.
I spent the rest of the game slagging off our support for a disgraceful and childish show of disrespect to one of our longest serving players – however poor we (I) may think he has been over the last few months, that was a shocking display.
We are comfortably the worst set of fans in the country. Apart from a valiant effort from the kids in the north-east corner, it was the usual moaning and groaning and know-nowt comments. Almost not surprising that our pampered prima donna players couldn’t be bothered putting in any effort.
Garswood – I’ms surprised at you, but you are entitled to your view of course.
JamesC – ring the date in the diary. I agree with you 100% :)
A bad game????????????
Have you not watched all season? A shot that goes for a throw, defensive errors, absolutely crap.
Our longest serving player you say.
That’s because nobody else wants him, he has expressed his desire to leave for seasons.
Worst set of fans? ha ha ha ha ha
You obviously watch no other teams.“a disgraceful and childish show of disrespect to one of our longest serving players”
I lost count of the number of times I saw Scharner cock something up or give away possession & just stand there whilst waiting for someone else (further away) to try & win back possession.
That lack of effort & commitment is what I find to be disrespectful & disagraceful. How else do you expect people to show their displeasure with his performance other than what they did
”a disgraceful and childish show of disrespect to one of our longest serving players”I lost count of the number of times I saw Scharner cock something up or give away possession & just stand there whilst waiting for someone else (further away) to try & win back possession.
That lack of effort & commitment is what I find to be disrespectful & disagraceful. How else do you expect people to show their displeasure with his performance other than what they did
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been saying for yonks he’s a waste of space.
Perhaps my annoyance at the crowd’s reaction was because it was the only time the majority of them had managed to rouse themselves into any type of enthusiasm all night.
Its not like that with the Warriors ,,, but a know what you mean though
Do you think he’ll spit his dummy and not appear for us again?
And for James to note – there was cheering at the DW tonight…. when that board was held up.
Straight down the tunnel he went. A legend in his own mind.
Yeah…Insulting our longest serving player and cheering his exit. Great. Have a bad game and latics fans hate you… No wonder people don’t want to sign and no wonder players want to leave.[/quote][/i][/size]
Very busy today and was intending to make a brief visit to comment on one topic. I have read just two posts; Garswood’s and JamesC’s.
I spent the whole of the time in the period between the team being announced and kick-off bemoaning the fact that Scharner had been picked.
I spent the whole of the time between kick-off and his substitution praying he would be taken off.
I spent the rest of the game slagging off our support for a disgraceful and childish show of disrespect to one of our longest serving players – however poor we (I) may think he has been over the last few months, that was a shocking display.
We are comfortably the worst set of fans in the country. Apart from a valiant effort from the kids in the north-east corner, it was the usual moaning and groaning and know-nowt comments. Almost not surprising that our pampered prima donna players couldn’t be bothered putting in any effort.
Garswood – I’ms surprised at you, but you are entitled to your view of course.
JamesC – ring the date in the diary. I agree with you 100% :) [/quote]
It’s a football disease I’m afraid , and it’s always been around.
Every club, in every division, in every country , in every game has to have a scapegoat or target for the boo boys.
For us at the moment , Gomez has been taken out of the firing line for his own protection , Scotland is doing alright :o , so the attention has turned to Scharner. Unfortunately last night he stepped into the role rather well.
I remember writing something about this in the Mudhutter a few months back. Well, I submitted the story so I dunno if it was published…
Anyway, I made exactly the same point about Scharner – it’s his inconsistency that irks me. Can we blame him for being a bad finisher? Well, he’s our second highest goalscorer for this season and he’s sure as hell better than Gomez. For the position to work we need someone else… someone like, erm, Charles N’Zogbia actually.
Let’s just say he’s had far better games. :)
Do you think he’ll spit his dummy and not appear for us again?
And for James to note – there was cheering at the DW tonight…. when that board was held up.
Straight down the tunnel he went. A legend in his own mind.
Yeah…Insulting our longest serving player and cheering his exit. Great. Have a bad game and latics fans hate you… No wonder people don’t want to sign and no wonder players want to leave.[/quote][/i][/size]
Very busy today and was intending to make a brief visit to comment on one topic. I have read just two posts; Garswood’s and JamesC’s.
I spent the whole of the time in the period between the team being announced and kick-off bemoaning the fact that Scharner had been picked.
I spent the whole of the time between kick-off and his substitution praying he would be taken off.
I spent the rest of the game slagging off our support for a disgraceful and childish show of disrespect to one of our longest serving players – however poor we (I) may think he has been over the last few months, that was a shocking display.
We are comfortably the worst set of fans in the country. Apart from a valiant effort from the kids in the north-east corner, it was the usual moaning and groaning and know-nowt comments. Almost not surprising that our pampered prima donna players couldn’t be bothered putting in any effort.
Garswood – I’ms surprised at you, but you are entitled to your view of course.
JamesC – ring the date in the diary. I agree with you 100% :) [/quote]
Not quite sure what you’re surprised at.
Let’s look at this logically. What is football? No – stay with me on this one.
For the vast bulk of the time and vast bulk of levels it’s a past-time that gets people out into the fresh air with a bit of healthy exercise. That’s why you would not heckle abuse at someone playing in the local park, or on a school-field. It exists for the participants.
But that’s not what we’re talking about here – there is another level – professional football, and in particular the Premier League. That does not exist for the health and well-being of the participants – it is part of the entertainment industry. It is a business like any other. We are the customers, the clubs are the service providers.
If a cowboy builder comes along and botches a job that you’ve paid for – do you say to him “well done” in case he gets a bit upset.
If you take your car to the garage and it breaks down 100 yards from the exit, do you go and give words of encouragement?
If a painter comes in and leaves half the wall unpainted do you shrug your shoulders and call him back in again next week without saying anything abotu the poor job, in case he decides not to try again.
If I don’t do my job properly, the job that I am being paid for, I expect to be pulled up about it, be told that this just isn’t good enough.
The way football fans can do that is by showing dissent. I’m not making a judgement here whether in any particular situation, last night or otherwise, that was correct or justified. But it is a right that supporters have – that the paying customer has – and the recipients of that criticism need to do something about it to rectify the impression that they are not doing their job that we are paying for.
And if their attitude is that people aren’t happy with what I’m doing, so stuff ’em, I’ll not bother, tells its own story.
If one good thing comes from tonight it’s that Austrian ponce won’t be seen again in the shirt. Bye bye to a big club – Young Boys Berne perhaps :shock:
They’re Swiss mate: I fail to see the correlation.
Scharner was poor tonight, and whoever told him (or Bobby) that he’s a midfielder needs shooting in the face. However, booing him as he left the field is simply not on. He’s our longest serving player and somebody who is willing to stick his head and foot in (something which a lot on here bemoan a lack of in our current squad).
If we lose 8-0, booing our own players would still be wrong.[/quote]
nobody booed him we all cheered
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