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    When Scharner originally joined us he was a defensive anchorman in midfield who could play at centre half too. Jewell signed him after seeing him do a good job as the defensive midfielder for Austria against England.

    He has scored some important goals for us over the last few seasons, who can forget the goal against Arsenal in the first leg of the League Cup semi or the goal at Brammall Lane?

    But he has NEVER had enough quality to warrant a place as an attacking midfielder. Watching him play on Wednesday I lost count of the number of poor passes he made and as for his shooting – it is frankly embarrassing. The guy looks so clumsy when he runs, you half expect him to fall over all the time.

    Loads of sides play similar formations to us, but they have genuine goal threats and creative players just behind the striker.
    Liverpool play Gerrard behind Torres.
    Chelsea have guys like Deco
    Everton have Cahill
    Blackburn have played David Dunn there

    These players hurt the opposition and not only chip in with a few goals, they create chances for their strikers and fellow midfielders.
    We might not have players of the above quality, but we have some promising young players who would contribute far more than Scharner who thinks HE is in a position to lecture one of our brightest talents! Do me a favour!

    #29778

    Its my recollection that Scharner was signed as a centre half who could, if needed play the odd game elsewhere too – certainly Steve Bruce said (when he switched him back to centre half 2 games after he took over) said that when he was poised to sign him for Birmingham (before Jewell stepped in) he was playing as a centre half & that’s where Bruce would have played him at Birmingham.

    Regardless of that, my own opinion is that Paul Scharner is not, never has been & never will be good enough to play anywhere in the midfield of any premier league team. Yes he can in an emergency step in & may even have a good game but long term he just hasn’t got what it takes. i think he’s an excellent centre half but midfielder??? To quote some bloke I once hear in the bogs at the JJB – “never in t’memory o’mon is that bloke a premier league midfielder”

    IMO its to Bobby’s discredit that he ever listened to Scharner in the first place by playing him there & he’s made that mistake worse by actually continuing to do so. He either can’t see that he isn’t good enough (& in which case you have to question his judgement) or he’s too afraid to go against where Scharner wants to play him (& in which case you have to question his managerial abilities)

    On top of that Scharner’s behaviour & public outbursts have been nowt short of disgraceful – he’s come out once saying where the manager should play him, he’s publicly criticised his colleagues on several occasions & now he’s (allegedly) come to blows with one team mate at half time on Wednesday & then (again allegedly) stormed off home before the final whistle.
    After each of these occasions all Martinez appears to have done is say he has no problem with it coz it shows he has passion. I even read a quote today from him regarding Wednesday saying that he (Scharner) had been upset & that he (Bobby) hoped it could be sorted out ahead of Sunday’s game – Sorry but if the mon can’t handle being subbed when he’s having a stinker & then a younger team mate standing up to him without stomping off in a sulk then he should be fined, dropped & made to publicly apologise, just like the bloke who did somet similar for Burnley the other week btu what it appears is happening is that Martinez is tryna placate him.

    You only have to look at his website to see how self-absorbed Paul Scharner is (anyone for the Paul Scharner Football Party this summer wheer we can all show our commitment to his vision of himself??) but I’ve never really cared as long as his contribution to the team has been good enough but when he’s played as poorly as he has this season, yet he still feels fit to criticise others when his own performances lack any sort of desire or commitment then he can go swing for all I care.

    Like SwindonLatic says we have other players who can play in that role (Moses for one, McCarthy could, Watson etc..) & if he doesn’t wanna play for Latics or under Bobby any more than he can feck off

    #29779

    Here, here! Give the young lads a chance and let’s go for that final win to keep us up.

    We need young, hungry players who want to get on and improve, not puffed up prima donnas who think they are better than they are.

    #29790
    AbramLaticAbramLatic
    Player

      In fairness to Scharner, I’ll say it again, I saw him leave the ground before 10 pm, but this was after the end of the game…..whatever he did or didn’t do, he did not leave the ground before the match finished (unless he left and then thought better of it)

      #29822

      its easy to blame individual players for the debacle on wednesday,and nothing went right for scharner and the more he tried the worse it got,

      but lets remember despite some of you saying its is because scharner has demanded martinez play him in an attacking midfield role,
      the truth is, the clown in charge always pinned his hopes on the useless tosser gomez playing that role with koumas being the back up.

      one man is to blame for everything wrong at wigan athletic and you all know who.

      #29823
      Anonymous

        Who?

        #29824
        acefaceaaron yates
        Player
          its easy to blame individual players for the debacle on wednesday,and nothing went right for scharner and the more he tried the worse it got,

          but lets remember despite some of you saying its is because scharner has demanded martinez play him in an attacking midfield role,
          the truth is, the clown in charge always pinned his hopes on the useless tosser gomez playing that role with koumas being the back up.

          one man is to blame for everything wrong at wigan athletic and you all know who.

          natdan
          ticslad
          loudmouthblue
          take your pick

          #29827
          Anonymous

            its easy to blame individual players for the debacle on wednesday,and nothing went right for scharner and the more he tried the worse it got,

            but lets remember despite some of you saying its is because scharner has demanded martinez play him in an attacking midfield role,
            the truth is, the clown in charge always pinned his hopes on the useless tosser gomez playing that role with koumas being the back up.

            one man is to blame for everything wrong at wigan athletic and you all know who.

            natdan
            ticslad
            loudmouthblue
            take your pick[/quote]

            might be the same person :o

            #29832

            its easy to blame individual players for the debacle on wednesday,and nothing went right for scharner and the more he tried the worse it got,

            but lets remember despite some of you saying its is because scharner has demanded martinez play him in an attacking midfield role,
            the truth is, the clown in charge always pinned his hopes on the useless tosser gomez playing that role with koumas being the back up.

            one man is to blame for everything wrong at wigan athletic and you all know who.

            natdan
            ticslad
            loudmouthblue
            take your pick[/quote]

            might be the same person :o [/quote]

            this might sound boring as i have repeated it so many times ,but then again people with small brains dont tend to absorb information on the first occasion so i will excuse you this time,
            but :-

            i dont and never have posted under any name other than the one you know,
            what i print is my opinion right or wrong i dont feel the need to hide behind a different username.

            #29833
            Anonymous

              Thats me told

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