Scott Carson

And it still doesn’t apply. There’s a million miles between proving something & thinking something is the case – I don’t think there’s any such thing as God or Gods based on what I’ve experienced. It doesn’t mean I can prove that there is no God or Gods
I fail to see by any dictionary definition how me saying Lee Nicholls hasn’t proved he is good enough is pernickety

And do Americans really say persnickety??

They watch him every week, so yes, I’d value their opinions more than either of us watching sporadic games.

I know Nicholls hasn’t proven himself in the Championship; that the whole fecking point of this exchange of posts! Sullivan in particular, is way past his best as a goalkeeper. He’s older than Pollitt. Older than me even (just). So who would you rather have in your goals a 43 year old or a young up and coming 20 year old? I know which I’d choose.

Have to correct you on a factual error though – I’ve only seen 1 Latics reserve game in my life …. I didn’t write off anyone after that game other than to say virtually all of em played very poorly … I think I said about Nicholls that he’d been awful which he was but that he wasn’t the only one. ANYWAY I never wrote off NcManaman after the game coz he didn’t play as I think he was on loan at Blackpool at the time – I do actually like to at least see someone play once before writing them off!!!

Fair enough if you didn’t mention McManaman – my mistake. You did use it to write off Wigan’s development programme however, as that was whole theme of the thread as I (and Garswood if I remember rightly) argued to the contrary that we’d seen things compeltely differently in the Development Squad games we’d watched.

And back to that word ‘proven’. No he’s not proven – but I’d say if you asked a good number of people they’d share the opinion that he’s could be a good keeper in the Championship.

Anyway, over and out. I’m even boring myself now.

They watch him every week, so yes, I’d value their opinions more than either of us watching sporadic games.

I know Nicholls hasn’t proven himself in the Championship; that the whole fecking point of this exchange of posts! Sullivan in particular, is way past his best as a goalkeeper. He’s older than Pollitt. Older than me even (just). So who would you rather have in your goals a 43 year old or a young up and coming 20 year old? I know which I’d choose.

Have to correct you on a factual error though – I’ve only seen 1 Latics reserve game in my life …. I didn’t write off anyone after that game other than to say virtually all of em played very poorly … I think I said about Nicholls that he’d been awful which he was but that he wasn’t the only one. ANYWAY I never wrote off NcManaman after the game coz he didn’t play as I think he was on loan at Blackpool at the time – I do actually like to at least see someone play once before writing them off!!!

Fair enough if you didn’t mention McManaman – my mistake. You did use it to write off Wigan’s development programme however, as that was whole theme of the thread as I (and Garswood if I remember rightly) argued to the contrary that we’d seen things compeltely differently in the Development Squad games we’d watched.

And back to that word ‘proven’. No he’s not proven – but I’d say if you asked a good number of people they’d share the opinion that he’s could be a good keeper in the Championship.

Anyway, over and out. I’m even boring myself now.[/quote]

I don’t know how to split up a quote that way so I’ll have to do it this way:
1) Doesn’t matter how many times they’ve watched him, they’re not (in your words) scouts or football managers so what do they know?
2) If Sullivan & Taylor are good enough then they’re young enough. They are still playing at this level coz they have proved they’re good enough. regardless of whether they’re past their best or not. Personally I would choose whoever was the better keeper be they 43 or 20
3) I don’t recall writing off the development programme more a case of that if anyone was hoping for one of em to come in & rescure the season they’d be in for a long wait coz they’d been dire & a relatively experienced team had been completely mullered by a Liverpool team of 17 yr olds & Jonjo Shelvey (plus some bloke they bought off rangers & have just sold back to a Scottish club). As it happens none of them did!!
4) So basically my original post was right – he isn’t proven. Thanks. You could have saved us all a lot of time & effort in typing if you’d just said that in teh first place

Lots of questions, I know, but how long will Al Habsi be out for? Has Coyle seen Nicholls play?

We do want to get off to a good start, but do we really need to buy a replacement?

Couldn’t we get an experienced keeper on loan for the period – Robinson, for example, or Rob Green or perhaps Reina or Brad Jones?

And yes, I do know, they have all made mistakes!

Tyldesley has proven himself to be pernickety at this level, whilst Salford is premier league pernickety, what is it with these out of towners, argumentative sods what do you think it is, a forum?

You’re on a loser there Johnny! I’ve tried it before and it’s like arguing with the wife, if I remember that far back. ;)

He won’t be going to Northampton they have signed matt duke from Bradford city[/quote]

Well somewhere else then ! :)