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We’ve always lost badly to United, bar that match after the League Cup final when we were very unlucky not to come out of it with a draw
We haven’t always lost badly to United. Under Steve Bruce we had the 2-0 defeat at home (the day United sealed winning the league) where I thought Latics were superb & should have been 1-0 via a penalty & United down to 10 men (the ref bottled it big time) before United eventually went 1-0 up & then sealed it late on.
The season after we went to Old Trafford & got beat 1-0 from a 1st minute Wayne Rooney goal in a game that Ferguson described at the time as the “hardest we’ve had all season.
In the reverse fixture at the JJB we were 1-0 up through Rodallega at half time & looking good before United stole all 3 points late onThe Bruce – Martinez debate is a non starter.. if Bobby had the players Bruce had, then things might be different.
Unlikely Bolshy – bar a couple of notable exceptions (Heskey, Palacios), the current squad is not worse than the one under Bruce. The difference is the management.
1. Bruce and his staff came with bags of top flight (playing and managing) experience and had been through the wars in the Prem and Championship
2. Although Martinez is talismanic for the fans, he ain’t jack to to squad. Bruce is famous and respected amongst players
3. As a defender, Bruce knew the secret to success the Prem is having a solid back line, not bags of goalsAs for his playing style, I don’t remember many folk complaining when we were hovering around 7th spot – and I don’t remember it being turgid…yes it was direct, and much of it was played down the middle, but a lot of that was due to having a strong spine in Heskey,Palacios and Bramble.
Whilst I’d love Wigan to be able to play like Arsenal or Barca, I would rather watch committed, direct football where we won/drew more than we lost, rather than attractive but lightweight and toothless football that gets us annihilated and embarrassed.[/quote]
I totally agree with you although, Palacios, Heskey, valencia and Cattermole sold (quite understandably) for 41 million would weaken any side. I’d argue that with these players Roberto’s ‘style’* might be possible. I too would love to see the current side take pride in keeping clean sheets. Like Jewell and Bruce’s sides did. Seems a long time ago when De Vos and Matt jackson were lying all over the floor gutted because they’d conceded a goal (after 9 games) in the dying minutes even though they’d won 3-1. *Quick archive check in the excellent CL database*.
01.01.03 V Notts County.
‘Style’* whatever that is. Lets start defending please and get shut of Coco the clown in the nets.
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