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suspend the message board??????????
Has there been a death or summat? Oh we lost a football, vat get a life fella!
VAT – if you are now saying that you’ve changed your mind & that you don’t feel moaning about all & sundry on here or down the pub or wherever is gonna do any good then fair enough
But you’ve done your own share of moaning about a whole range of things to do with the team so don’t slate those that still choose to do it just coz you’ve changed your mind
I agree Bobby was only appointed coz of sentiment. I argued at the time to other Latics fans that the only reason they were happy with his appointment too was because of this & that if any other manager with his record & experience had been appointed that there would have been uproar
You’ve also stated on this board more than once since last night that you either don’t care or are glad we’re out of the FA Cup yet you have a go at others for the comments they have made as not being “proper” fans, yet you are glad/don’t care we’re out of the FA cup
You lay yourself wide open for people to have a go at you personally when you contradict yourself left, right & centre
I think your original post on this thread is well & truly out of order bearing in mind what you’ve said previously & I’m telling you – if you have a go at others expect to get flak backVAT – if you are now saying that you’ve changed your mind & that you don’t feel moaning about all & sundry on here or down the pub or wherever is gonna do any good then fair enoughBut you’ve done your own share of moaning about a whole range of things to do with the team so don’t slate those that still choose to do it just coz you’ve changed your mind
I agree Bobby was only appointed coz of sentiment. I argued at the time to other Latics fans that the only reason they were happy with his appointment too was because of this & that if any other manager with his record & experience had been appointed that there would have been uproar
You’ve also stated on this board more than once since last night that you either don’t care or are glad we’re out of the FA Cup yet you have a go at others for the comments they have made as not being “proper” fans, yet you are glad/don’t care we’re out of the FA cup
You lay yourself wide open for people to have a go at you personally when you contradict yourself left, right & centre
I think your original post on this thread is well & truly out of order bearing in mind what you’ve said previously & I’m telling you – if you have a go at others expect to get flak backTyldesley, what do you expect me to say, when people are coming out with “it’s a rugby town”, after posting on here for a while. I’ve neve contradicted myself. I’ve said from day one it was all about sentiment, and I was terrified it would all go wrong. But I am not revelling in it now. That’s the difference. I was shot down in flames by people originally, most of whom are skriking now.
And who say’s I’ve actually changed my mind?
Yeah, I am glad we are out of the cup, as I remember the last time we got carried away in a cup, and got done 4-0 in the final. I think people need to get a grip and realise we ARE Wigan Athletic
Are you threatening people again vat?
If you are ill give you an extra long holiday has this is not the first time you have done this!VAT – your original post was nowt to do with people saying “its a rugby town” or showing their true i.e. rugby colours
What it was, was a piece/rant telling everyone to stop moaning, that we’ve all become spoilt & that we are lucky to have a manager like Martinez. Considering what you have expressed openly & privately through CL I pretty much consider that to be a change of mind unless of course you still believe that Matinez is deluded & will take us down but that that makes us all really lucky to have him at the helm
Yes “I’m telling you” what I think about your original post. Nothing more & nothing less. Its a public forum & if you post opinions expect them to get shot down as many of mine often are. I don’t get upset about it when they are
As for the “come & tell me on Tuesday then mate” – a) when someone has to resort to thinly veiled threats on the internet it says alot about them & b) I don’t say anything on here that I wouldn’t say to anyone’s face if I was having a conversation about the same subject“Yeah, I am glad we are out of the cup, as I remember the last time we got carried away in a cup, and got done 4-0 in the final.” – dunno about you but I loved the cup run & I loved the experience of seeing my team in a major cup final although I was gutted that Jewell (by his own admission) got his selection wrong & that we got a bit of a stuffing. I’d love us to have another cup run & I’d love us to get to another final regardless of whether we got beat 4-0 again (although I’d be gutted on the day at the result). You’re saying people are now starting to show their true (rugby) colours yet you also seem to be saying you don’t want to see us in another cup final coz we might get beat & as we’re only Wigan Athletic we shouldn’t have those ambitions anyway
landgateblue – let him ask me to come & tell him to his face all he wants. it doesn’t bother me
And why is it that I keep getting the same 2 lines from Fools Gold by the Stone Roses running round & round in my head???Tyldsley, my original post was prompted by the ‘invasion’ on here last night, several of which were chubsters/closet chubsters who have chosen their side. That is why I was so riled.
“As for the “come & tell me on Tuesday then mate” – a) when someone has to resort to thinly veiled threats on the internet it says alot about them & b) I don’t say anything on here that I wouldn’t say to anyone’s face if I was having a conversation about the same subject”
You took it that way. I was merely suggesting meeting for a few drinks to mull over things and get some real ‘face to face’ opinion, and to see if you really DO dislike Martinez or not?
As a Reborn Christian, I am quite appalled that you thought otherwise of me.
Do you honestly think I want to have fisty-cuffs over football? Those days are long gone. I see the game for what it is, and I certainly have no desire to argue with you. Unless I think you are wrong, and if that’s the case, I’d just turn away and talk to somebody else.
“I was merely suggesting meeting for a few drinks to mull over things and get some real ‘face to face’ opinion, and to see if you really DO dislike Martinez or not?”
If that’s what you meant then please accept my apologies. As someone else has pointed out you have previous but I shouldn’t jump to conclusions.
The fact you say you are a reborn christian is irrelevant to me as some of the most obnoxious, hate filled people I have ever met have been religious zealots of one description or anotherDo I really dislike Martinez? – I don’t dislike him. I consider him a legend from his time as a player even if he wasn’t as good as I reminisce he was. Hell my cat is even named after him!!!
Do I think he has what it takes to hack it as a premiership manager with Wigan Athletic? Never in a miliion years. All the fears I had when he was appointed have been borne out & he has shown next to nothing (IMO) that he has what it takes to turn it around bar for the odd “flash in the pan” performance. Yes we beat Chelsea. Yes it was a good performance. Yes he was the first Latics manager to beat a “big 4” side.
However the premiership is has always had clubs who have beaten one of the “biggies” and still got relegated. West Brom did it in our first season up in 2005/06 when they beat Arsenal but still went down. Just this season Burnley have beaten United but will more than likely go down. If I had the time or the inclination I could list moreI actually agree with pretty much of all you say.
Question for me is:
1. Who else then? for the job.
2. Whelan’s stubborn ways.
3. Frying pan into the fire.
Can you imagine Mark Hughes being interviewed “And what transfer budget will I have?” And after Whelan answers and blinks, he is greeted by the sight of a closing door and hurried footsteps…………..
Isn’t that why Jim McDonald-head walked?
If Bobby were to walk or be sacked then i would go for Mark Hughes.
I take your points re Whelan but I’m sure Hughes would take it coz a) whilst he’ll hardly be scrimping his dole money, he is out of work & b) he knows that if he did half decent & a “bigger” club came in for him then Whelan wouldn’t stand in his way
Jesus, Dave if you realised what a d1ckhead you sound like on this board you would stop posting :?
I have never known anybody change their mind as often then backtrack then change their mind again.
We were playing a team three divisions below us, we lost two nil, our tactics were terrible.
How do you expect people to react :?:Then when people post opinions you dont agree with, you want the board shut down.
You really need to get out more, your embarrasing yourself :oops:Dont ban Dave – his breakdowns are ace.
He posts about not wanting ‘fisticuffs’ and being a ‘born again christian’ when in his second post on his own thread he says he is ‘going to launch someone at the game’.
Grade A nutter – keep it going dave, this is priceless.
(Bet a new Doctor Who type personality appears now and we dont see ‘VAT 69’ anymore)
Always been the same. I had the pleasure of witnessing Ged Brannan on his Latics debut, whilst sat with some of his relatives. (His cousin is my best mate) and literally after 3 minutes, he was being criticized and moaned at. I felt embarrassed.
Biggest toss@@ to wear a latics shirt,if you was at the wrexham game you will know what i mean
I think it’s time a word was at at least.I’ve had to look at the home page a few times to make sure it was the right website.
I had actually typed a big piece having a right go at people, but due to a system crash, I’ve lost it. But I will use the final line from it, which originates from one of our former managers, from years ago.
“If you don’t like it…..don’t fu*kin come again!”
Spoilt bast*rds. These last 10 years have been a bloody breeze as a fan. Constant progression, as we climbed up the league, and proceeded to mock peoples mis-conceptions whippets and cloth caps, as we proved them wrong and ‘Little Wiggun’ in the Premier League. It’s been bloody fantastic. Easy street for supporters. If you remember the old days, and are still moaning, I suggest you have a rummage through your old programmes etc, and see just how much we have progressed. I was feeling p*ssed off a year or two ago, and I did just that. I’ll tell you now, I soon felt good again.
So frig off with the “He has to go” comments. We actually have a manager who CARES for the club, and who has a DESIRE to take us on to the next step, rather than for him to use Latics as a stepping stone. We are bloody lucky.
I’ve never been as disgusted in our support, as I am at this time. In all honesty, if you are moaning and coming out with all this shyte, and you really aren’t happy……….
Go and fu*kin support somebody else.
Moaning, ungrateful, tw*ts.
Do you want me to dig up a few of your old posts Vat and make you look extremely silly !! One minute your bangin on about “we will def go down mark my words” Then the next minute you are Mr optimistic brown nosing left right and centre !! To say you are an enigma is a massive understatement !
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