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What a sanctimonious and sycophantic post! Have you ever thought that we might be of a more passionate nature, not a bad trait in my eyes! You have called fans before today for rising out of their seats in your stand and getting animated, well that is a passionate fan and there is nothing wrong with it! Fans come from all manner of backgrounds but come match day they are one in my book and just because some happen to have degrees and the like and work in an office environment, they are no better than say the working class guy who works on a shop floor or on a building site! Football matches are a far far cry from the sterile atmosphere of your typical office !
Not really. But it’s clearly touched a nerve with you. Why are linking the ability to support a club properly with where you work? What utter nonsense. Again!
What a sanctimonious and sycophantic post! Have you ever thought that we might be of a more passionate nature, not a bad trait in my eyes! You have called fans before today for rising out of their seats in your stand and getting animated, well that is a passionate fan and there is nothing wrong with it! Fans come from all manner of backgrounds but come match day they are one in my book and just because some happen to have degrees and the like and work in an office environment, they are no better than say the working class guy who works on a shop floor or on a building site! Football matches are a far far cry from the sterile atmosphere of your typical office !
Not really. But it’s clearly touched a nerve with you. Why are linking the ability to support a club properly with where you work? What utter nonsense. Again![/quote]
Of course it has touched a nerve, that is why I responded! I would also say that most office wallowers are more controlled with their emotions on match days and prefer the comfort and literacy of the football forum to air their respective views whilst your proper working class salt of the Earth types are more passionate and like to get animated and into the whole matchday experience! So it’s not really about the ability to support a club, it’s just about different people! You once slated Horc for swearing, well swearing is commonplace on the football terraces, always has been, always will be! That is why many clubs introduced family stands!
What a sanctimonious and sycophantic post! Have you ever thought that we might be of a more passionate nature, not a bad trait in my eyes! You have called fans before today for rising out of their seats in your stand and getting animated, well that is a passionate fan and there is nothing wrong with it! Fans come from all manner of backgrounds but come match day they are one in my book and just because some happen to have degrees and the like and work in an office environment, they are no better than say the working class guy who works on a shop floor or on a building site! Football matches are a far far cry from the sterile atmosphere of your typical office !
Not really. But it’s clearly touched a nerve with you. Why are linking the ability to support a club properly with where you work? What utter nonsense. Again![/quote]
Of course it has touched a nerve, that is why I responded! I would also say that most office wallowers are more controlled with their emotions on match days and prefer the comfort and literacy of the football forum to air their respective views whilst your proper working class salt of the Earth types are more passionate and like to get animated and into the whole matchday experience! So it’s not really about the ability to support a club, it’s just about different people! You once slated Horc for swearing, well swearing is commonplace on the football terraces, always has been, always will be! That is why many clubs introduced family stands![/quote]
Well, fair play to you. You’ve finally managed to spout even more shite than your other Preston mates. That is the biggest load of bullshit generalisation I think I have ever read. I must take note of that though – if I want to support my club better, I must swear more.
And actually, I didn’t slate Horc for swearing; my 8 year old lad did. And the club’s Family Stand was shut that day as it was a pre-season friendly with only the West Stand open. So, not only do you opinions seem to be worthless, you’re not that clued up when it comes to facts either.
What a sanctimonious and sycophantic post! Have you ever thought that we might be of a more passionate nature, not a bad trait in my eyes! You have called fans before today for rising out of their seats in your stand and getting animated, well that is a passionate fan and there is nothing wrong with it! Fans come from all manner of backgrounds but come match day they are one in my book and just because some happen to have degrees and the like and work in an office environment, they are no better than say the working class guy who works on a shop floor or on a building site! Football matches are a far far cry from the sterile atmosphere of your typical office !
Not really. But it’s clearly touched a nerve with you. Why are linking the ability to support a club properly with where you work? What utter nonsense. Again![/quote]
Of course it has touched a nerve, that is why I responded! I would also say that most office wallowers are more controlled with their emotions on match days and prefer the comfort and literacy of the football forum to air their respective views whilst your proper working class salt of the Earth types are more passionate and like to get animated and into the whole matchday experience! So it’s not really about the ability to support a club, it’s just about different people! You once slated Horc for swearing, well swearing is commonplace on the football terraces, always has been, always will be! That is why many clubs introduced family stands![/quote]
Well, fair play to you. You’ve finally managed to spout even more shite than your other Preston mates. That is the biggest load of bullshit generalisation I think I have ever read. I must take note of that though – if I want to support my club better, I must swear more.
And actually, I didn’t slate Horc for swearing; my 8 year old lad did. And the club’s Family Stand was shut that day as it was a pre-season friendly with only the West Stand open. So, not only do you opinions seem to be worthless, you’re not that clued up when it comes to facts either.[/quote]
Swearing exists on ALL football terraces, not sure where you went with the rest of your riposte as you seem to have attempted to twist my words, you legal types do that though don’t you! I am also pretty sure that it wasn’t your lad who came on here and typed what I read, it was you and so I say that you did take umbrage at Horc’s Anglo Saxon tirade! You have also in the past come out with derogatory remarks about the East Stand, particularly ES2! It’s not big and it’s not clever!
What a sanctimonious and sycophantic post! Have you ever thought that we might be of a more passionate nature, not a bad trait in my eyes! You have called fans before today for rising out of their seats in your stand and getting animated, well that is a passionate fan and there is nothing wrong with it! Fans come from all manner of backgrounds but come match day they are one in my book and just because some happen to have degrees and the like and work in an office environment, they are no better than say the working class guy who works on a shop floor or on a building site! Football matches are a far far cry from the sterile atmosphere of your typical office !
Not really. But it’s clearly touched a nerve with you. Why are linking the ability to support a club properly with where you work? What utter nonsense. Again![/quote]
Of course it has touched a nerve, that is why I responded! I would also say that most office wallowers are more controlled with their emotions on match days and prefer the comfort and literacy of the football forum to air their respective views whilst your proper working class salt of the Earth types are more passionate and like to get animated and into the whole matchday experience! So it’s not really about the ability to support a club, it’s just about different people! You once slated Horc for swearing, well swearing is commonplace on the football terraces, always has been, always will be! That is why many clubs introduced family stands![/quote]
Oh my God, that is so pathetic – playing the “class card”. That is definately the last resort of a scoundrel in attempting to win an argument.
Sometimes Fil it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt (with acknowledgements to Samuel Johnson and Abraham Lincoln).
What a sanctimonious and sycophantic post! Have you ever thought that we might be of a more passionate nature, not a bad trait in my eyes! You have called fans before today for rising out of their seats in your stand and getting animated, well that is a passionate fan and there is nothing wrong with it! Fans come from all manner of backgrounds but come match day they are one in my book and just because some happen to have degrees and the like and work in an office environment, they are no better than say the working class guy who works on a shop floor or on a building site! Football matches are a far far cry from the sterile atmosphere of your typical office !
Not really. But it’s clearly touched a nerve with you. Why are linking the ability to support a club properly with where you work? What utter nonsense. Again![/quote]
Of course it has touched a nerve, that is why I responded! I would also say that most office wallowers are more controlled with their emotions on match days and prefer the comfort and literacy of the football forum to air their respective views whilst your proper working class salt of the Earth types are more passionate and like to get animated and into the whole matchday experience! So it’s not really about the ability to support a club, it’s just about different people! You once slated Horc for swearing, well swearing is commonplace on the football terraces, always has been, always will be! That is why many clubs introduced family stands![/quote]
Oh my God, that is so pathetic – playing the “class card”. That is definately the last resort of a scoundrel in attempting to win an argument.
Sometimes Fil it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt (with acknowledgements to Samuel Johnson and Abraham Lincoln).[/quote]
Lincoln or Twain I thought? Actually comes from the bible I believe!
Argument? This isn’t an argument, this is me having a view that I am entitled to, it is Griff who as per usual has become derogatory and insulting and so I have merely mentioned that there are different types of folk who attend football games and they all act differently, he has to understand that!
By the way, the last resort of a scoundrel attempting to win an argument is to pull someone up on their grammar and so therefore I must tell you owd fella that it is ‘Definitely’ and not ‘Definately’! Have a good evening and don’t drink too much port will you owd chap! ;)What a sanctimonious and sycophantic post! Have you ever thought that we might be of a more passionate nature, not a bad trait in my eyes! You have called fans before today for rising out of their seats in your stand and getting animated, well that is a passionate fan and there is nothing wrong with it! Fans come from all manner of backgrounds but come match day they are one in my book and just because some happen to have degrees and the like and work in an office environment, they are no better than say the working class guy who works on a shop floor or on a building site! Football matches are a far far cry from the sterile atmosphere of your typical office !
Not really. But it’s clearly touched a nerve with you. Why are linking the ability to support a club properly with where you work? What utter nonsense. Again![/quote]
Of course it has touched a nerve, that is why I responded! I would also say that most office wallowers are more controlled with their emotions on match days and prefer the comfort and literacy of the football forum to air their respective views whilst your proper working class salt of the Earth types are more passionate and like to get animated and into the whole matchday experience! So it’s not really about the ability to support a club, it’s just about different people! You once slated Horc for swearing, well swearing is commonplace on the football terraces, always has been, always will be! That is why many clubs introduced family stands![/quote]
Oh my God, that is so pathetic – playing the “class card”. That is definately the last resort of a scoundrel in attempting to win an argument.
Sometimes Fil it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt (with acknowledgements to Samuel Johnson and Abraham Lincoln).[/quote]
Lincoln or Twain I thought? Actually comes from the bible I believe!
Argument? This isn’t an argument, this is me having a view that I am entitled to, it is Griff who as per usual has become derogatory and insulting and so I have merely mentioned that there are different types of folk who attend football games and they all act differently, he has to understand that!
By the way, the last resort of a scoundrel attempting to win an argument is to pull someone up on their grammar and so therefore I must tell you owd fella that it is ‘Definitely’ and not ‘Definately’! Have a good evening and don’t drink too much port will you owd chap! ;)[/quote]You have definitely removed all doubt now Fil – no need to go on. As my my old science teacher would say “Quad Est Demonstrandum”.
People swearing at football matches. Now that won’t do will it. That is terrible. What is the world turning in to?
League One won’t be no walk in the park that’s for sure! There were a few blind faith merchants
Not that I personally am a blind faith merchant – despite, and not caring at all, what you and the Preston know-nowts might think – but I’d rather be one of those than a miserable, negative moaning twat.
I really don’t know why some of you lot even bother watching Wigan (note I didn’t say supporting) as you seem to hate everything about it.[/quote]
I don’t come from Preston? I haven’t said that I am not going to buy a season ticket, I said I shall wait and see! Do you think that there will be the same home following next season? I am willing to bet that there are a few thousand less! It’s a wheat from the chaff scenario as far as you ‘Goole Away’ merchants are concerned and deep down you love it! You would say nothing if we went down again next season and again you would berate the fans who moan but it is those that moan that really care in my opinion! We should NOT have gone down this season and some of us pointed out the glaring errors that were being made whilst the ‘True Supporters’ as you like to be called just sat back and took it on the chin without a fuckin whimper! Some of you even tried to get behind Whelan and his hairbrained idea to bring in Malky Mackay! You really couldn’t make this shit up ! :)[/quote]
I’m supposed to take lessons in supporting this club from you??? That’s almost as mental as Horc thinking he can manage the team!![/quote]
What’s happened to I don’t come on here anymore ?
I was mortified once when the singing lot went in the south stand. One hooligan was screaming like a banshee Get Benson Out and he even said Flipping heck in his procrastination’s. Disgusting lout. How terrible it was to see this seven year old having an opinion. Fans shouldn’t do that its terrible. Behave yourself Fillmoss please. Don’t have a voice and don’t criticise it just won’t do even though what you say is not far from what most fans think.
Fil, i found your reply to my post very fascinating indeed. I apologise for getting it wrong about your length of time supporting the tics, but your statement about deciding to come down one day when weekends became available – !!!!!!!. It sounds like you was looking through the leagues looking for a football club & thought, “Ah, wigan look like they’re on the up, just had a recent promotion, doing well in div 1/championship, ambitions of getting into the prem. Yes , that is who i will support.”
You then say that fans such as yourself are more passionate & less accepting of our current predicament than the “older brigade”. Do you think we are happy about how this season has panned out & the soap opera circus that has accompanied it. I will bet the answer is a resounding no. But, us older supporters have seen times far worse than this , so whilst not happy, just simply accept it & move on. One example of a dark fay was when i chucked in 20p of my pocket money(a lot in those days) so i could contribute in paying a players wages. Years later i chucked in even more money to help keep this club (i love so much & am deeply passionate about) alive. & as for passion fil, you should sit next to me on a matchday. I bet i share the same passion now as i did as a 6 year old kid back in 1978.
The fact is fil, you are supposed to support a club through both its good times & its bad ones. You IMO have only witnessed good times throughout your tenure as a supporter, albeit this season & already you are spitting out your dummy & debating on renewing your season ticket. As JR said, you are a classic case of a JCL. Fil, a football club is for life, not just for xmas & certainly not for good times only.
BTW, welcome back griff!!
Fil, i found your reply to my post very fascinating indeed. I apologise for getting it wrong about your length of time supporting the tics, but your statement about deciding to come down one day when weekends became available – !!!!!!!. It sounds like you was looking through the leagues looking for a football club & thought, “Ah, wigan look like they’re on the up, just had a recent promotion, doing well in div 1/championship, ambitions of getting into the prem. Yes , that is who i will support.”You then say that fans such as yourself are more passionate & less accepting of our current predicament than the “older brigade”. Do you think we are happy about how this season has panned out & the soap opera circus that has accompanied it. I will bet the answer is a resounding no. But, us older supporters have seen times far worse than this , so whilst not happy, just simply accept it & move on. One example of a dark fay was when i chucked in 20p of my pocket money(a lot in those days) so i could contribute in paying a players wages. Years later i chucked in even more money to help keep this club (i love so much & am deeply passionate about) alive. & as for passion fil, you should sit next to me on a matchday. I bet i share the same passion now as i did as a 6 year old kid back in 1978.
The fact is fil, you are supposed to support a club through both its good times & its bad ones. You IMO have only witnessed good times throughout your tenure as a supporter, albeit this season & already you are spitting out your dummy & debating on renewing your season ticket. As JR said, you are a classic case of a JCL. Fil, a football club is for life, not just for xmas & certainly not for good times only.
BTW, welcome back griff!!
My brother and his mates had been going on since 82 and I tagged along one day, no scrolling through the leagues to see who was doing well or the like!!
As for the passionate stuff, I’m not sure how long you have to have been a supporter to be passionate but my point was that some of the more passionate fans speak out whilst some of the less passionate ones seem accepting of the slump but that is nothing to do with what they witnessed back in the really dark days. Some of the fans who have been on here venting their spleen have been fans for decades. They have also seen the dark days but this season wasn’t anything like the dark days,this was a completely different scenario!
Now the spitting out of the dummy as you choose to call it. I have said that I am not happy with the club’s latest decision which I happen to think will be another massive faux pas. I am not happy about what I have been told re reverting back to the Martinez way of football and so on the back of this season just gone I am not sure whether I will renew. One of my mates stopped coming on because he had a grievance with the way things were going and he is one of the 1982 crew, is he a JCL? Season tickets are expensive and when you fork out over £300 for something that with hindsight turned out to be in my opinion a complete waste of money then forgive me for being wary of wasting even more money! Just how many ‘Real fans’ are there then? Will it take a couple more relegations to find out? I was meant to jump ship as soon as we went down from the Prem according to some ‘Real fans’! I will say this one last time, I have not made a decision yet on renewing but the reason for this is not because we got relegated and I spat my dummy out as you say, it is because I too have a grievance with the club, just like my mate did and whether I have been coming 12 years or 32 years it is surely my prerogative! If I decide to walk away this season then I will be deemed a JCL but was I not one to start with? The thing is I have never been accepted as a proper fan despite buying a season ticket for 11 continuous seasons! I had no real affiliation with any other club prior to supporting Wigan, supporting is when you pay to see them is it not? and I definitely do not secretly follow one of the big time charlie clubs! I wonder how many out there leapt out of their chairs fist pumping the air when Ole Gunnar Solskjær stuck out his leg in the 99 Champions League final? Be honest and don’t say it was because they beat the Germans either! ha ha
At the end of the day, I could have said nothing and made my decision without any of you knowing but I have come on here for several years now, I was a member of the old version and so even though many have never thought of me as a fan, I do think that I am a fan and I have always spoke my mind and yeah sometimes it is utter bollocks that I spout because I flit between wind ups and sincerity, this is the latter!League One won’t be no walk in the park that’s for sure! There were a few blind faith merchants
Not that I personally am a blind faith merchant – despite, and not caring at all, what you and the Preston know-nowts might think – but I’d rather be one of those than a miserable, negative moaning twat.
I really don’t know why some of you lot even bother watching Wigan (note I didn’t say supporting) as you seem to hate everything about it.[/quote]
I don’t come from Preston? I haven’t said that I am not going to buy a season ticket, I said I shall wait and see! Do you think that there will be the same home following next season? I am willing to bet that there are a few thousand less! It’s a wheat from the chaff scenario as far as you ‘Goole Away’ merchants are concerned and deep down you love it! You would say nothing if we went down again next season and again you would berate the fans who moan but it is those that moan that really care in my opinion! We should NOT have gone down this season and some of us pointed out the glaring errors that were being made whilst the ‘True Supporters’ as you like to be called just sat back and took it on the chin without a fuckin whimper! Some of you even tried to get behind Whelan and his hairbrained idea to bring in Malky Mackay! You really couldn’t make this shit up ! :)[/quote]
I’m supposed to take lessons in supporting this club from you??? That’s almost as mental as Horc thinking he can manage the team!![/quote]
What’s happened to I don’t come on here anymore ?[/quote]
Go away, you tedious tit. This board – for all its failings and pointlessness – is still way too advanced for your limited intellect. Go and find a colouring book, or something more suited to your level.
BTW, welcome back griff!!I’m not really back. Far too busy these days. This bank holiday weekend has given me a bit more time but I haven’t seen much to encourage me to come back any more regularly. Present company excepted, of course. ;)
Fil, i found your reply to my post very fascinating indeed. I apologise for getting it wrong about your length of time supporting the tics, but your statement about deciding to come down one day when weekends became available – !!!!!!!. It sounds like you was looking through the leagues looking for a football club & thought, “Ah, wigan look like they’re on the up, just had a recent promotion, doing well in div 1/championship, ambitions of getting into the prem. Yes , that is who i will support.”
You then say that fans such as yourself are more passionate & less accepting of our current predicament than the “older brigade”. Do you think we are happy about how this season has panned out & the soap opera circus that has accompanied it. I will bet the answer is a resounding no. But, us older supporters have seen times far worse than this , so whilst not happy, just simply accept it & move on. One example of a dark fay was when i chucked in 20p of my pocket money(a lot in those days) so i could contribute in paying a players wages. Years later i chucked in even more money to help keep this club (i love so much & am deeply passionate about) alive. & as for passion fil, you should sit next to me on a matchday. I bet i share the same passion now as i did as a 6 year old kid back in 1978.
The fact is fil, you are supposed to support a club through both its good times & its bad ones. You IMO have only witnessed good times throughout your tenure as a supporter, albeit this season & already you are spitting out your dummy & debating on renewing your season ticket. As JR said, you are a classic case of a JCL. Fil, a football club is for life, not just for xmas & certainly not for good times only.
BTW, welcome back griff!!
My brother and his mates had been going on since 82 and I tagged along one day, no scrolling through the leagues to see who was doing well or the like!!
As for the passionate stuff, I’m not sure how long you have to have been a supporter to be passionate but my point was that some of the more passionate fans speak out whilst some of the less passionate ones seem accepting of the slump but that is nothing to do with what they witnessed back in the really dark days. Some of the fans who have been on here venting their spleen have been fans for decades. They have also seen the dark days but this season wasn’t anything like the dark days,this was a completely different scenario!
Now the spitting out of the dummy as you choose to call it. I have said that I am not happy with the club’s latest decision which I happen to think will be another massive faux pas. I am not happy about what I have been told re reverting back to the Martinez way of football and so on the back of this season just gone I am not sure whether I will renew. One of my mates stopped coming on because he had a grievance with the way things were going and he is one of the 1982 crew, is he a JCL? Season tickets are expensive and when you fork out over £300 for something that with hindsight turned out to be in my opinion a complete waste of money then forgive me for being wary of wasting even more money! Just how many ‘Real fans’ are there then? Will it take a couple more relegations to find out? I was meant to jump ship as soon as we went down from the Prem according to some ‘Real fans’! I will say this one last time, I have not made a decision yet on renewing but the reason for this is not because we got relegated and I spat my dummy out as you say, it is because I too have a grievance with the club, just like my mate did and whether I have been coming 12 years or 32 years it is surely my prerogative! If I decide to walk away this season then I will be deemed a JCL but was I not one to start with? The thing is I have never been accepted as a proper fan despite buying a season ticket for 11 continuous seasons! I had no real affiliation with any other club prior to supporting Wigan, supporting is when you pay to see them is it not? and I definitely do not secretly follow one of the big time charlie clubs! I wonder how many out there leapt out of their chairs fist pumping the air when Ole Gunnar Solskjær stuck out his leg in the 99 Champions League final? Be honest and don’t say it was because they beat the Germans either! ha ha
At the end of the day, I could have said nothing and made my decision without any of you knowing but I have come on here for several years now, I was a member of the old version and so even though many have never thought of me as a fan, I do think that I am a fan and I have always spoke my mind and yeah sometimes it is utter bollocks that I spout because I flit between wind ups and sincerity, this is the latter![/quote]Fil, I agree with you with regards the fact that it is completely irrelevant how long an individual has supported (or been a fan of) the tics. However, the gripe I have with you (& in some respects, with people who you know) is the fact that you & they have thrown in the towel or are about to by becoming disillusioned with how things are run at wigan athletic. As I wrote in my previous post, a football club is for life & as a supporter/fan, one must stick by that club through both the good times & bad. Anyway, whether you decide to stay or stop coming, it won’t matter one jot to me. I’ll be there no matter what.
& for the record, although I have been a wigan supporter all my life, I did pump the air with my fist when ole gunnar solskjar stuck out his leg, as I did when dudek pulled off his grobbelaar impersonations in 2005 & likewise when drogba put away the crucial penalty a couple of seasons ago. Basically, I support ALL English clubs in Europe irrespective of who they are – I even cheered on Bolton :ohmy:
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