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19 January 2015 at 4:02 pm #138441
A player who leaves for more money which face it most of us would if the chance came along. Or is a Judas just a player or manager who just leaves without any regard to the fans or club. Depends how fans look at things. Pascal Chimbonda for instance was he a Judas and if so was Jason Roberts?
Let’s have a top 5 or ten biggest Judas’s.
1 Roberto Martinez.
2 Pascal Chimbonda.
3 Steve Senior.
4 Steve Johnstone.
5 Jimmy Bullard.
Bobby who could blame him really but after saying how much he loved us just going and not having a go at promotion.
Chimbonda, well his timing.
Senior, well just going to Knob End.
Johnston well for just leaving when he did.
Anymore anyone?19 January 2015 at 4:04 pm #138442Jimmy Bullard saying it was for family reasons. Oh yes Jimmy.
19 January 2015 at 5:10 pm #138443Personally i have always felt let down by those players who left us at the end of our 1st season in the premier league . Big time charlies who thought they were bigger & better than what they actually were.
19 January 2015 at 5:53 pm #138445Lee McCulloch – the way he, by his own admission, conducted himself was far worse than Chimbonda
19 January 2015 at 6:09 pm #138446Lee McCulloch – the way he, by his own admission, conducted himself was far worse than ChimbondaStill gave his all on the field though
19 January 2015 at 6:24 pm #138448Lee McCulloch – the way he, by his own admission, conducted himself was far worse than Chimbonda
Still gave his all on the field though[/quote]
His “all” resulted in a sending-off in his last game and allowed Heskey to gain cult status as a centre-half.
I personally have no problem with McCulloch.
If we are working away from home and are lucky enough to be offered more money but living closer to my family I know what I would do.
In that respect footballers are no different from the rest of us.Chimbonda was our first example of a foreign player making his name with Latics and demanding his dream move. It taught us a lesson, but we used this as our player recruitment model afterwards.
I personally have a problem with those who jumped ship just as we got promotion. However, Ellington assumed wrongly that he had a better chance of staying up at West Brom.
19 January 2015 at 6:28 pm #138449Lee McCulloch – the way he, by his own admission, conducted himself was far worse than Chimbonda
Still gave his all on the field though[/quote]
His “all” resulted in a sending-off in his last game and allowed Heskey to gain cult status as a centre-half.[/quote]
It did yes. And?
He didn’t exactly take his toys home and refuse to play did he?
19 January 2015 at 6:44 pm #138450Lee McCulloch – the way he, by his own admission, conducted himself was far worse than Chimbonda
Still gave his all on the field though[/quote]
His “all” resulted in a sending-off in his last game and allowed Heskey to gain cult status as a centre-half.[/quote]
It did yes. And?
He didn’t exactly take his toys home and refuse to play did he?[/quote]
No he didn’t. I agree with you.
19 January 2015 at 7:06 pm #138451The Duke now there was another one. Hero to Zero. That was a big let down.
19 January 2015 at 7:27 pm #138452Lee McCulloch – the way he, by his own admission, conducted himself was far worse than Chimbonda
Still gave his all on the field though[/quote]
His “all” resulted in a sending-off in his last game and allowed Heskey to gain cult status as a centre-half.[/quote]
It did yes. And?
He didn’t exactly take his toys home and refuse to play did he?[/quote]
Here’s the account I’ve had:Apparently, towards the end of Jewell’s last season, McCulloch met privately with Dave Whelan to inform him out of courtesy that he’d heard Rangers were interested in him again – despite having a bid rejected in January, and he wanted to join them at the end of the season. DW said he could leave at the end of the season with his blessing and would not stand in his way if Wigan avoided relegation. So, McCulloch thanked him, and said he was going to get his agent to write up a transfer request – which he’d hand to Paul Jewell.
But immediately after the conversation and before he was able to submit the request, news of Lee McCulloch planning to leave Wigan appeared on Sky Sports – seemingly leaked (bearing in mind it was a meeting between just two people). Paul Jewell flew off the handle and called McCulloch all sorts of names to anyone who’d listen.
Anyway, that summer, we avoided relegation and DW immediately announced that he’d turned down a bid from Rangers as he didn’t feel the offer was acceptable. McCulloch, angry and upset, approached DW to remind him of their conversation, only for Whelan to deny the conversation ever took place.
Thoroughly pissed off, McCulloch then told his teammates and Hutchings (the new manager) that he was going to feign injuries and disrupt training sessions until the club agree to sell him to Rangers.
The two clubs eventually agreed on a price and McCulloch was sold to Rangers.
I’m sure if you asked Mr Whelan for his side of the story it would be a different account. So it’s a case of which one do you believe?
19 January 2015 at 7:37 pm #138453Actually, does anyone really give a fck unless somebody bad mouths us as they leave?
Chimbonda earned cult like status (even had foam hands) then his timing to hand his notice in was bad, especially after we’d ‘saved’ him from the racists at Bastia. That said, how much did he give us that season?
As for Duke, he really didn’t want to go and took frightful stick at West Brom in his first appearance against us. Again though, where would we have been without him.
Jason Roberts wasn’t looked after as he should have been in my opinion.I’d rather say thanks for the memories than “f off you judas 2hat”
19 January 2015 at 8:06 pm #138454I don’t actually think we have had that many Judas like figures.
Nobody has left for any of our true rivals or bad mouthed us when they left. Most have left for more money or to try and better their career. That isn’t a Judas in my book.
19 January 2015 at 9:19 pm #138459The Duke now there was another one. Hero to Zero. That was a big let down.I think you will find that Albion triggered his release clause by offering a quid over the 3 mill price and the clubs did the rest. Duke never asked to leave and he went to pot when he left so no hero to zero where he is concerned.
19 January 2015 at 9:39 pm #138460Steve Senior going to Knob End! If they aren’t a major rival I don’t know who is.
Everton could be said as not being a rival because Bobby had already relegated us by the time he jumped for their pot of gold. Like I said who could blame him, we all wouldn’t mind more money. A massive reward for a massive bollox up, doesn’t come to everybody everyday so who could blame our Bob, but confess your undying love for something one day then leave them the next day relegated and then take their staff and players is another thing.19 January 2015 at 10:12 pm #138463A player who leaves for more money which face it most of us would if the chance came along. Or is a Judas just a player or manager who just leaves without any regard to the fans or club. Depends how fans look at things. Pascal Chimbonda for instance was he a Judas and if so was Jason Roberts?
Let’s have a top 5 or ten biggest Judas’s.
1 Roberto Martinez.
2 Pascal Chimbonda.
3 Steve Senior.
4 Steve Johnstone.
5 Jimmy Bullard.
Bobby who could blame him really but after saying how much he loved us just going and not having a go at promotion.
Chimbonda, well his timing.
Senior, well just going to Knob End.
Johnston well for just leaving when he did.
Anymore anyone?None of them. It’s a job. Get over it.
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