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Isnt choosing not wearing a poppy your right under free speech??
I can see why people dont wear em (i do) cos some will disagree with our wars over the years and tbh with the media its turned into an “im better than you” contest. Trying to have the largest sparkliest poppy. Sad reely.
This thread has gone from a Wigan flag at Glastonbury to a political preference
For those Corbyn lovers, you only have to look at France’s economy for what will lie ahead for us if Labour get’s in. Corbyn’s policies are very similar to that of France. Tax the rich, tax the corporate lot & give more to the poor.
France currently has the weakest economy of the big three in Europe, one of the poorest growth forecasts for 2017 for the whole of the EU predicted, larger than average EU unemployment rate & even worse (24%) for the youth.
Government debt, now stands at almost 90% of GDP, up from just 58% a decade ago.
Be careful what you vote for..
Isnt choosing not wearing a poppy your right under free speech??I can see why people dont wear em (i do) cos some will disagree with our wars over the years and tbh with the media its turned into an “im better than you” contest. Trying to have the largest sparkliest poppy. Sad reely.
Yes Super Stu, and remember who died for your freedom of speech. Even an insincere expression earns more respect than now’t at all.
This thread has gone from a Wigan flag at Glastonbury to a political preference For those Corbyn lovers, you only have to look at France’s economy for what will lie ahead for us if Labour get’s in. Corbyn’s policies are very similar to that of France. Tax the rich, tax the corporate lot & give more to the poor.
France currently has the weakest economy of the big three in Europe, one of the poorest growth forecasts for 2017 for the whole of the EU predicted, larger than average EU unemployment rate & even worse (24%) for the youth.
Government debt, now stands at almost 90% of GDP, up from just 58% a decade ago.
Be careful what you vote for..
Nail on the head, Jimmy.
Nail on the head, oh please.
Can’t you learn to look b a future beyond capitalism? It’s a busted flush. It’s failing now to make us all more wealthy. Marx predicted this over 100 years ago, and politicians on all sides agree he was most often proved right.
In 20 years’ time, the driverless car will make redundant just about every bus, taxi, train, coach and delivery driver. Nanotechnology will put even surgeons’ jobs at risk. 3D printing will decimate manufacturing.
There simply will not be enough jobs to go around. Governments will have to pay us a basic human income just to keep the whole capitalist multiplier going. With more job-sharing and part-time work on the agenda, the benefits of leisure time, creative pursuits and doing things for our communities will become apparent.
We need to take back our infrastructure, create proper jobs and apprenticeships, rejuvenate our social housing stock and then plan for this shared future. Or we can sleepwalk into being a zero-hours, low-tax, small-state economy, desperately attempting to compete with the might of Germany, with financial services our only major industry.
Forget France, we should be taking our lead from Scandinavia, and forget the delusion of being a major nuclear power while we’re at it.As for wearing a poppy, it’s a free country. Of course I respect the efforts put in by our forefathers. But they didn’t die for us to be a one-party monoculture, rather a free democracy that looked after us from cradle to grave. Someone should remind Kensington council of that.
Isnt choosing not wearing a poppy your right under free speech??I can see why people dont wear em (i do) cos some will disagree with our wars over the years and tbh with the media its turned into an “im better than you” contest. Trying to have the largest sparkliest poppy. Sad reely.
Good point SSB but in Corbyns case deciding not to wear a poppy is one thing but when he attends SF events honouring IRA dead and standing in silence as a mark of respect to those dead, as at the same time not showing any respect to the people that gave their today for our tomorrows is despicable. For me he can go and f**k himself.
Grow up. He’s clarified many times that it was a minute’s silence for everyone who died in Ireland. The people he shared a platform with renounced violence and were until very recently the elected government of Northern Ireland.
What’s really putting the fragile peace there at risk is the British government going into partnership with the loyalists, meaning they can never be trusted by both communities to get power-sharing going again. That and exiting the EU which will require a return to a hard border between Ireland and the north. Theresa May is burning the Goid Friday agreement for her own political expediency and you’re still banging on about Corbyn talking to the IRA 40 years ago. As did John Major, as did John Hulme, and Mo Mowlam. Did that make them terrorist sympathisers or peace-makers?
Grow up. He’s clarified many times that it was a minute’s silence for everyone who died in Ireland. The people he shared a platform with renounced violence and were until very recently the elected government of Northern Ireland.Probably explain why he never called for the IRA to lay down their arms and voted against every anti terrorism bill put before him. Grow up! you try waking up!
Scum McDonnell has joined in the earning browny points now.
The very lowest of low these gets but still haven’t seen a Latics flag.
Shame the Tories are so spineless not to retaliate and start mentioning a few things that these opportunist idiots fail to mention but I suppose they won the election and don’t have the taste of sour grapes in their gobs like these champagne socialists.In 1984 Corbyn and Ken Livingstone were criticised for inviting two convicted Provisional IRA members as well as Gerry Adams and other members of the Irish Republican party Sinn Féin to Westminster three weeks after the Brighton hotel bombing, an attack carried out by the IRA that killed five people.[47][48][49] He became known during the 1980s for his work on behalf of the Guildford Four and Birmingham Six, who were eventually found to have been wrongly convicted of responsibility for a series of bombings carried out in England in the mid-1970s by the IRA that killed 28 people.[50][51][52][53][54] In the run up to the 2017 General Election, Corbyn said that he had “never met the IRA”, although Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott later clarified that although he had met members of the IRA, “he met with them in their capacity as activists in Sinn Fein”.[55][56]
Corbyn was arrested in 1986 for protesting against the trial of a group of IRA members including the Brighton Bomber Patrick Magee. Magee was convicted of murdering five people and the group were convicted of planning a “massive bombing campaign in London and seaside resorts”. After refusing police requests to move from outside the court, Corbyn and the other protesters were arrested for obstruction and held for five hours before being released on bail, but were not charged.[57] Following the 1987 Loughgall ambush, in which 9 IRA members were killed while trying to blow up a police station, he attended a commemoration by the Wolfe Tone Society and stated “I’m happy to commemorate all those who died fighting for an independent Ireland’.[58][59]
In the early 1990s, MI5 opened a file on Corbyn over fears his IRA links meant he could have been a threat to national security.[60][61] The Metropolitan Police’s Special Branch was also monitoring Corbyn at the time, and continued to monitor him for two decades over fears he was attempting to “undermine democracy”.[62][63] According to The Sunday Times, following research in Irish and Republican archives, Corbyn was involved in over 72 events connected with Sinn Fein, or other pro-republican groups, during the period of the IRA’s paramilitary campaign.[64]
Corbyn supported the campaign to overturn the convictions of Jawad Botmeh and Samar Alami for the 1994 bombing of the Israeli Embassy in London; Botmeh and Alami had admitted possessing explosives and guns but denied they were for use in Britain. The convictions were upheld by the High Court of Justice in 2001 and by the European Court of Human Rights in 2007.[65][66] What a guyNail on the head, oh please.Can’t you learn to look b a future beyond capitalism? It’s a busted flush. It’s failing now to make us all more wealthy. Marx predicted this over 100 years ago, and politicians on all sides agree he was most often proved right.
In 20 years’ time, the driverless car will make redundant just about every bus, taxi, train, coach and delivery driver. Nanotechnology will put even surgeons’ jobs at risk. 3D printing will decimate manufacturing.
There simply will not be enough jobs to go around. Governments will have to pay us a basic human income just to keep the whole capitalist multiplier going. With more job-sharing and part-time work on the agenda, the benefits of leisure time, creative pursuits and doing things for our communities will become apparent.
We need to take back our infrastructure, create proper jobs and apprenticeships, rejuvenate our social housing stock and then plan for this shared future. Or we can sleepwalk into being a zero-hours, low-tax, small-state economy, desperately attempting to compete with the might of Germany, with financial services our only major industry.
Forget France, we should be taking our lead from Scandinavia, and forget the delusion of being a major nuclear power while we’re at it.As for wearing a poppy, it’s a free country. Of course I respect the efforts put in by our forefathers. But they didn’t die for us to be a one-party monoculture, rather a free democracy that looked after us from cradle to grave. Someone should remind Kensington council of that.
Forget France? But their recent political decisions are the very same political theories that Labour are promising the young generation of Britain… The last Labour government made a hash of things and this mon could well bankrupt the UK in 10yrs with his give away manifesto.
Your above theory could happen if businesses are allowed to keep influencing politics. This wave of “nationalism is dangerous” rhetoric comes from politicians & business leaders who are all out for their own. It is these arse h**** that are the problem.
And by the way, our manufacturing sector is doing very well of late. Which in turn creates jobs. So, before the EU came about we competed with Germany, and will do in the future if we ever leave the EU that is.
Are socialists not allowed to drink champagne now, Ste? I missed that memo. Yet again you just opt for personal stick rather than trying to answer anything in what must have been a 1,099-word post. You’re a good, sound person. Why do you act such a massive whopper on here?
Well done, Snowblind, by the way for being able to selectively copy and paste from Wikipedia. If you insist on judging him by the positions he adopted 40 years ago, I expect you are similarly disgusted that at the same time the Tories denounced Nelson Mandela as a “dangerous terrorist”, that Mrs Thatcher had the murderous dictator general Pinochet in Downing Street, and was also selling arms arms to prop up Saddam Hussein. These were the same, nice Tories who denounced striking miners as “the enemy within”, and used the aforementioned police, special branch land MI5 to distort the events at Orgreave and Hillsboroygh, and cover up systematic child abuse by politicians visiting children’s homes. Maybe you trust these Tories but I suspect that, given half the chance, they’ll discredit the victims of the Grenfell tower fire and obfuscate its rather obviously political causes in just the same way.. Carry on.
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