Worst supporters in the country.

…and perhaps the fans not “kicking off” are those who go week in week out and would watch and get behind um if they got thrashed every week. It’s Wigan Athletic I support, not a manager, or players or Chairman. Its been my team since a young lad and it will be my team when I die. I leave the grounds moaning about how crap they have been then wipe the slate clean for the next match.
The demise of our crowds from when we were in the top flight says everything about our fans particularly the young ones who have tasted nothing but success.

I’m certainly not happy with our current predicament and would love to see WJ turn things around, but if any of you think that by sacking WJ it will solve our problems, then think again boys.
Having managed people all my working life, folk are great at finding problems and faults, but not that good at finding solutions.

You all have a right to have a moan so carry on if it makes you feel better, but just remember the “Lightside” are in a win, win, win, win situation. If WJ stays and turns it around we’ll be happy, if WJ is potted and a new manager comes in and turns it around we will be happy, if WJ stays and gets us relegated we will look forward to next season, if a new manager comes in and gets us relegated we will Look forward to next season.

One thing that is guaranteed, is if we lose Satdy, the serial moaners will be falling over themselves to be the first to start a doom and gloom thread, I will guess it will happen at 4:56pm. :lol:

If we do lose, I’ll check it when I get home from Ewood about 5:45pm. :whistle:[/quote]

The superfan has been coaxed out of his hiding hole! As I see it, most if not all the fans moaning as you say go to the games so don’t try that old chestnut, have you not heard of smartphones ? Blind faith is what you have just described and if you are quite happy for ‘Your Club’ as you put it to wallow in the lower leagues with fuck all money and a danger of actually going to pot one day then you are more stupid than you actually come across![/quote]

Hey up Phil, I’ve hit a nerve there!! Super Fan, why I thank you sir, I don’t see myself as one but thanks anyway.

I have heard of smart phones and have one myself, however at 4:56pm I’ll probably be stood clapping my team off or having a piss. I definitely wont be rushing to find a signal to post on CL. Still if you or others get a cheap thrill from it, carry on buddy. To quote an old poster who no longer frequents the board, “There is nothing like trying to make a fool of someone and looking the real fool yourself”
Go on then I’ll check my watch at final whistle and see how long it takes till the first moan post. I’ll guarantee that it won’t be from anyone who has been to the match.

By the way Phil I hope you are going, its only 25 mins down the 65 for you. :lol:

Yes your right about the one to ones and giving staff the opportunity to provide feedback, however if they are knocking on my office door 5-6 times a day 5 days a week moaning about everything that doesn’t go their way I would class them as deadwood and look to fire um off.
You have taken my post too literally, it was merely a way of getting my point over that some posters constantly berate the team, manager, chairman and even the previous chairman but can’t offer any alternatives. Get rid of Yootha and thats it.
At the Forrest game some fans boo’d the team at ht, when Bogle came off and at full time. I was really down beat, but I never boo its childish IMHO. By the time I got to the car I was thinking, how far have we come when the Wigan Athletic team and manager are getting boo’d after drawing against the two time European Cup winners.

I’ve honestly lost track on what some posters are moaning about its gone on that long, is it performance, results or both. If we scrap 5-6 wins on the bounce but play hoof ball would they be happy? If we play lovely passing football, creating a mountain of chances but continue losing, would they be happy?
The floor is yours…

Bloody hell JR it was around 40 years ago since Forest won them EC’s.

They’re hardly a Liverpool or Chelsea these days!

Can’t see a problem with people moaning or the happy clappers it’s about you and what you think is the right thing to do at the time. Football is about opinions, so if you don’t like other fans views opinions etc. It’s probably you who needs to stay away.

There’s moaning and serial moaning, that’s my problem.The club, manager and chairman can’t do anything right in some posters minds, just browse through some posts following a game.
All goes quiet on here when we win, that’s the laughable bit.

…and perhaps the fans not “kicking off” are those who go week in week out and would watch and get behind um if they got thrashed every week. It’s Wigan Athletic I support, not a manager, or players or Chairman. Its been my team since a young lad and it will be my team when I die. I leave the grounds moaning about how crap they have been then wipe the slate clean for the next match.
The demise of our crowds from when we were in the top flight says everything about our fans particularly the young ones who have tasted nothing but success.

I’m certainly not happy with our current predicament and would love to see WJ turn things around, but if any of you think that by sacking WJ it will solve our problems, then think again boys.
Having managed people all my working life, folk are great at finding problems and faults, but not that good at finding solutions.

You all have a right to have a moan so carry on if it makes you feel better, but just remember the “Lightside” are in a win, win, win, win situation. If WJ stays and turns it around we’ll be happy, if WJ is potted and a new manager comes in and turns it around we will be happy, if WJ stays and gets us relegated we will look forward to next season, if a new manager comes in and gets us relegated we will Look forward to next season.

One thing that is guaranteed, is if we lose Satdy, the serial moaners will be falling over themselves to be the first to start a doom and gloom thread, I will guess it will happen at 4:56pm. :lol:

If we do lose, I’ll check it when I get home from Ewood about 5:45pm. :whistle:[/quote]

The superfan has been coaxed out of his hiding hole! As I see it, most if not all the fans moaning as you say go to the games so don’t try that old chestnut, have you not heard of smartphones ? Blind faith is what you have just described and if you are quite happy for ‘Your Club’ as you put it to wallow in the lower leagues with fuck all money and a danger of actually going to pot one day then you are more stupid than you actually come across![/quote]

Hey up Phil, I’ve hit a nerve there!! Super Fan, why I thank you sir, I don’t see myself as one but thanks anyway.

I have heard of smart phones and have one myself, however at 4:56pm I’ll probably be stood clapping my team off or having a piss. I definitely wont be rushing to find a signal to post on CL. Still if you or others get a cheap thrill from it, carry on buddy. To quote an old poster who no longer frequents the board, “There is nothing like trying to make a fool of someone and looking the real fool yourself”
Go on then I’ll check my watch at final whistle and see how long it takes till the first moan post. I’ll guarantee that it won’t be from anyone who has been to the match.

By the way Phil I hope you are going, its only 25 mins down the 65 for you. :lol:[/quote]

It’s 20 mins actually but I’ll be gigging this weekend so no I ain’t going! Thought it was Sammy who came out with the fool thing, water off a duck’s back either way and I don’t use phone to post ( far too small and fiddly for my eyes! ) As for the clapping team off against Forest, you must have been in a minority there then! Every single person I could hear coming off the ground was saying how shit it had been and that it’s getting worse but you thought they deserved clapping off ! Another corker right there ![/quote]

When did I say I clapped the team off at after the Forest game? As soon as the whistle went I shot up to the concourse steps looking for a quick get away, I do this at every home game. Was my reference to clapping not for the coming Blackburn game?. Another attempt at trying to be clever and ballsing it up. I’d leave it at that Phil and have an early night. :P[/quote]

Not much of a super fan then after all! So you never clap the lads off at home then? You just leg it! You’re no better than me man ! ;) In fact, contrary to popular belief I do actually stay till the end of games that hang in the balance and clap at the end so maybe I am the better home fan and you are the better away fan, unless you are taking a piss instead and then again, you are no better than me! ;)

Gents.

The fans aren’t Joyce’s staff. The players are his staff. So his one-to-ones should be with them.

The fans are his customers, and most businesses encourage feedback from their customers via email to their Customer Services department, or on forums, Trip Advisor etc.

Whilst I don’t agree with booing at the match – because it must be morale sapping for the players as they don’t know if it’s them or the managers being booed, I can understand that people want to take out their frustration and want people at the club to hear them, so I reckon welcoming individuals’ feedback would be a step in the right direction.

And whilst fan forums with the manager are a good idea, as are Fan Liaison Officers, and Paul Kendrick (etc) asking for questions to take into Press Conferences, with all of those, not everyone gets to ask their question or is willing to do so in public.

So, here’s an idea to run by you:

How about some sort of official interactive Wigan Athletic forum?

Fans can be encouraged to ask questions in private on any subject – and are guaranteed a response with X amount of days, as is the case if you were complaining to a company’s customer service department. (Obviously if it’s just offensive and doesn’t warrant a response, they’ll be told so by email) Then each week the club could publish a list of anonymous questions and their answers.

You could also have ratings and private feedback per game, so if someone at the club wants to gauge fan reaction after a particular result, they don’t have to try and trawl through Facebook, unofficial forums or Twitter.

Pages like Cockney Latic would still be there for debate and interaction with other supporters. This club forum would be purely for direct feedback to the club.

What do you reckon?