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I have just read the threads so thought I would put my pennies worth in.
I have noticed on here that a lot seem to think we are making progress under Martinez. Do you know that the least amount of times we have had a throw in and passed in back only to miss the player and knock it straight into touch is 5? (for uneducated people that menas it is usually more than this) very boring fact but my under 10’s do not make that many errors from throw ins.
Why do people think we are playing football when we make 10 passes and do not progress up the field and thenb we pass our way into trouble.
Why do people think we have made progress when the same defence as last season are conceeding goals like we are.
The players look so bored and fed up its frightening. We have 2 players in Diame and Thomas who are trying to play the same game and are not good enough playing together. I do think both are decent players but not together.
We do not have a decent goalkeeper, Mike Pollit is just poor and Kirkland should be on the sick.
Jason Scotland is pathetic, people are commenting saying he is a worker, NO he is not, he is a lazy lazy player who is short on confidence because he is out of his depth.
Why can Martinez not see when Rogellaga plays upfront we look like scoring. Yes he missed good chances at weekend but at least he had chances. What is wrong with 4-4-2 against Bormingham at home???
Gomez is not as bad as people say but he is not the quality of the premiership and is a squad player at most and I would only use him to slow a game down as he as no fight in him.
Martinez is a legend in Wigan and I would hate to see him sacked but if he cannot see what is wrong with this team who have received more hammerings this season than we have in the last 15 seasons then he needs to move into a different role.
To be honest I hope Dave keeps his money in the bank in January as giving any to Martinez would be a disaster for Wigan Athletic.
My overall verdict is move Martinez out of the Manager role and quickly.
Fact No. 1 Last year we had 16 points from 15 games this year we have 17, is that not progress?
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What a journey!So Scotland is in the same league as Heskey????? hahahahahaScotland is not good enough and it does not make you a super fan for supporting him. He is poor and that is the bootom line.
Who said Scotland was in the same league as heskey? Not me!!
My point is that some fans don’t see the whole picture when judging a player. My mate once had a trial at Latics back in the 80’s. He came on as sub in the game with 20 mins left and scored 4 goals. He later got told that he would never make it due to his technical ability and other stuff that me and my mates at the time couldn’t believe.
You see thats why we are season ticket holders and martinez and co are millionaires. However, I actually do see the good points in Scotland that convince me he’s worth a longer run.From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!I have just read the threads so thought I would put my pennies worth in.I have noticed on here that a lot seem to think we are making progress under Martinez. Do you know that the least amount of times we have had a throw in and passed in back only to miss the player and knock it straight into touch is 5? (for uneducated people that menas it is usually more than this) very boring fact but my under 10’s do not make that many errors from throw ins.
Why do people think we are playing football when we make 10 passes and do not progress up the field and thenb we pass our way into trouble.
Why do people think we have made progress when the same defence as last season are conceeding goals like we are.
The players look so bored and fed up its frightening. We have 2 players in Diame and Thomas who are trying to play the same game and are not good enough playing together. I do think both are decent players but not together.
We do not have a decent goalkeeper, Mike Pollit is just poor and Kirkland should be on the sick.
Jason Scotland is pathetic, people are commenting saying he is a worker, NO he is not, he is a lazy lazy player who is short on confidence because he is out of his depth.
Why can Martinez not see when Rogellaga plays upfront we look like scoring. Yes he missed good chances at weekend but at least he had chances. What is wrong with 4-4-2 against Bormingham at home???
Gomez is not as bad as people say but he is not the quality of the premiership and is a squad player at most and I would only use him to slow a game down as he as no fight in him.
Martinez is a legend in Wigan and I would hate to see him sacked but if he cannot see what is wrong with this team who have received more hammerings this season than we have in the last 15 seasons then he needs to move into a different role.
To be honest I hope Dave keeps his money in the bank in January as giving any to Martinez would be a disaster for Wigan Athletic.
My overall verdict is move Martinez out of the Manager role and quickly.
When does the rugby season start for yer lad?
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What a journey!Sorry to be positive on this board…but I thought Scotland was great in the first half. Held the ball up well and showed some good touches. He almost scored in the 2nd half with a great shot from outside the area but that soon gets forgotten.Gomez looked good when he came on. Not afraid to take people on and scored a great free kick. Worth a start against Stoke with Scharner moving to defence.
For all you whingers … get lost. What do you expect. We are fighting miles above our weight in this league and I still think we will survive. If that’s not enough for you then either get a reality check or take your Johnny come lately support off to another club.
Martinez has my full support.
Bang on that mate!! I’d forget trying to talk sense to some of these on here. The same ones probably moaned about Heskey not scoring when he played for us, then realised when he’d gone that hes probably one of the best hold up players in world football, not just the prem.
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What a journey!dont believe everythinng you read in the papersexactly I had him down for an 8/10 ;)
As for Hugo, remember when he first got in the team? Oh dear oh dear, he would have been on the first boat back to Columbia if some fans had their way.
Lets judge martinez, his system, his backroom staff, his buys, his positives in defeat, his shoes, whatever else people want to find fault with, at the end of season and not after 3 or 4 months. The standards reached in the chelsea and Villa game are our benchmark, consistancy is the next goal for Bobby and co to achieve.
Patience should be the fans goal, not moaning after every defeat and then being over elated when we win.I wish some of you could have been watching our lads when I first started watching them away at Goole Town and South Shields on a cold wet Tuesday neet. No team, no support, no prospects no nothing. I know you shouldn’t look back and we have to move on blah, blah, blah, but we are holding our own in the prem FFS.
I was totally gutted after saturdays defeat and losing litterally spoils my weekend, but look at the first half display and the miniscule difference between going in 3 or 4 up, game over, to going in 1-0 and losing to 3 ridiculous goals.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, Jason Scotland didn’t miss Larssons cross or let Benitez run free at goal or let a soft free kick in at the near post. Ger off his back FFS!!From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!yeah saw him do that,but i dont think anybody saw what was coming next from zoggie,and what did he do for the other 89 minsEnough to get 7/10 in the paper unlike 7 or 8 others on our team!!
OK he’s not set the prem on fire but there’s some potential and I can see him improving every game. I really think some fans were not prepared to give him a chance after just one game and only see the negatives.
Did you see Rodallega squander 3 or 4 golden opportunities in the first half? :roll: I did and not one fan moaning about him on here.From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!FFS Browns legs were well and truley gone by the time he feked off to Pompey. HT is twice the player already and can actually pass the ball something that Brown has never been able to do. Apparently browny was a moaning barsteward also, who questioned why they had to eat pasta, why they had to train on a Monday, why, why piggin why
If someone can be ars_ed, check the number of crucial passes Browney made during his time with us, you may just find it was less than 2. :o
I suggest we all campaign to get him, Andy Liddell and Kevin Kilbane back!! :roll:
For the record here’s my two predictions:-
1) Michael Brown will be suspended for at least 6 games before the end of the season.
2) Michael Brown will NOT stop pompey from being relegated.
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What a journey!What makes the FA cup harder to win than the Carling cup? The fact that Forrest Green ande Staines are in it??
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What a journey!I’ve got this feeling that we are going on a good cup run this season. I don’t think Bobby will juggle the team around that much as in his words “they are still getting used to his system and each other”
Brown on the other hand will deffo be focussed on survival and we might see him sending some fringe players.
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What a journey!I had a dream.I have just contacted the bank to re-mortgage and will then be off to Ladbrokes.
Let Vat 69 put yer bet on, he’ll get you 7 billion pound back for a 1-0 Latics win, for just a £1 stake.
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What a journey!Hearing tales that Martinez hates brenda and benson, he doesnt speak to either of them… not good the staff at loggerheads, bensons ties still being with bruce.. i think the next two games are key. lose one of wm and its time for a change, i would sooner a manager that gives us a bit of steal and fighting spirit like PJ and bruce gave us on a weekly basis. i personlly think the attractive football we have been playing was an accident waiting to happen i.e. yesterdays 9-1 thrashing!! give us back the old fighting tics, pressing teams and flying into tackles!!!! yeasterday was a shambles, to many forigners, i mean what language to we speak on the pitch? footy is all one language but we sure aint speaking it, just look back, if we hadnt got that resuly v chelsea we would be right in the relegation zone… we are a poor team, i said at the begining this could be the season we drop and martinez is the wrong man for the job, would sooner see brenda and benson out first but that aint gunner happen, brenda does not like martinez and i think its a matter of time before he is out the door… that said, i will be there sat in full voice getting behind the tics… Get em all out Brenda, Martinez, And benson- Bruce or PJ back in, even Eric black would have had us more organized… toughto be beat will keep us up not spanish passing football…. give us some FIGHT martinez!!!!!!!!!! :evil:Which rock have you crawled from under?
I can’t remember you posting a rant like that after the chelsea game FFS.
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