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Absolutely gutless.
Not just the result, but the lack of fight, the lack of passion. How many yellow cards did we get?
Did we even voice any protest at that penalty decision? I didnt see any. We look like we are beaten before we kick off! Seems no urge to bust a gut. No desperation. No emotion. We are just sleep walking to relegation.
The players are definitely NOT playing for the manager. Preston was a one off.
Most gutless, piss poor Latics team I’ve seen in 40 years. If I were losing I’d at least clatter someone. Nothing. We’ve a squad of absolute shithouses. None of them care.
Owners haven’t got a clue, either. As for the manager….if he’s still manager on Saturday it shows the owners don’t care.
I listen to a lot of podcasts, including Stick To Football.
A few weeks back, they were discussing the Wing Backs system. Amorim was being stubborn at United and wouldn’t change things.
Gary Neville said that as experienced a player he was, he couldnt have played as a wing back. He was so used to having a midfielder in front of him, normally Beckham, he would constantly be looking to pass the ball down the line. This is an England International who won over 80 caps, and played at the very top of the English game.
So what hope have we got with Fraser Murray and Joe Hungbo?
Amorim lost his job through blind stubbornness. The same should happen to Lowe. We’ve finally landed a Scouse manager who doesn’t play the Scouse way. Yet in private, he will laud the great Liverpool teams of the 80s and early 90s who were driven to play a game of pass and move by suchlikes as Kenny Dalglish and Ronnie Moran. Its simple. Pass and move, keep possession, but with purpose. Attacking football using the flanks and displaying levels of arrogance and confidence in their play.
Yet Ryan Lowe’s Latics team is anything but. Its puzzling. Is he just a shit manager? Is he as arrogant as people say? Ive heard people say he’s not a nice bloke. Ive not met him or come across him, so Ive no idea. I do know though that if I ever do meet him and he comes out with the “what have you ever done in football?’ Comment, as he did at Preston. I will tell him to fuck right off and I will never step inside the ground again until he is gone.
If he is the actual shithouse that people are saying and portraying him as, I hope he is gone tomorrow. I really do. A bad penny can destroy a club. Especially if its the manager.
A couple of clubs have potted their manager today. Id settle for us doing it tomorrow. But in reality I can see silence, nothing happening and us sleepwalking to League 2. If they let us just go down with not even a whimper or any change of things at all, they deserve the 4k crowds they’ll get next season.
Respect to you ! Please don’t be offended by my post.
No mate, I wasn’t. But thanks all the same.
Great memory Remember that game against Wycombe , slaughtered them on a glorious summer afternoon and gave the false impression of a fantastic season ahead. after that an Struggling to remember anything more memorable that season than that other than 5500 travelling to Blackburn for the FA cup 3 rd.
Yes, I was there. John Deehan set us up very cautious and we went 4 nil down against a very decent Rovers side. Only when he put David Lee on and he ran them ragged, did we start to play. He might have put David Lowe on as well. We clawed 2 back and had them on the Ropes. After the game Roy Hodgson said “Wigan were never in the game”, which angered my dad and I as we thought he gave us no credit whatsoever. We were a league one team against a Premier League side who had won it 3 years previous. With long hindsight, he was probably right though. So even then we were criticising our manager for being too cautious!
Just got back and Lowe needs to go. I won’t go into the finer details but 3-3 doesn’t paint over the sh*t show. If it wasn’t for Tickle making 4 tremendous saves we’d have lost that 7-3
On the flip side if Tickle hadn’t fucked up and our defence stopped pissing about we could have won that game. Schoolboy calamity football at times!
I tell you what though, we’ll miss him when he’s sold next week for 350k to someone like West Brom or Sheffield United.
Our defence always seems to struggle to clear the ball. My own particular attitude about defending and ‘playing’ football is to get the ball upto the half way line before we start to attempt to pass it about. ‘Don’t mess about around your own area’. Its that simple. And if clearing a ball from your own box, get it out to the flanks, to avoid a Bolton goal situation.
I don’t know how our coaches and players get it so wrong. I was coaching these basics to 11 year olds a few years back!
I think you need to be on Mastermind (specialist subject: the Latics) with the sped of that response 😂😂😂
Thats what being on the Autism spectrum does for you. I have an high I.Q. as well and just remember facts and things. It can be a burden sometimes. Mind never stops working.
I can remember things from years ago about games, but not so much recent years. I cannot reeber much at all between 2014 and 2017 do to health issues.
First game of season in August 1997…
Beat Wycombe 5-2.
Brendan O’Connell hat-trick and Scott Green scored. Think they were debutants. David Lee, also debut, may have scored the other.
Heard a whisper that Arsenal wanting to change Latics fans around £40 and Latics are arguing it out with them, saying that is too much
A friend told me they charged Palace fans £25 in the Carabao Cup. That would be fair enough and I’d be happy enough with that.
If we go down to League 2 and then end up with about 10 contracted players, as no doubt Tickle and Carragher, maybe even Bettoni, will be sold for 300k apiece, if we are lucky.
Then we will struggle to attract anyone decent, will shove Leo Graham etc in to make the numbers up.
We may well free fall to the National League.
Staggering. Get him f***ing sacked. Now!
Thats appalling. His man management is appalling. Arrogant scouser. Can’t believe that about Asamoah. Unbelievable.
And Port Vale have just appointed Brady so they could get a new manager bounce. He impressed me how he went and spoke to the fans after yesterday’s defeat. Seems cert genuine and a good fellow. Our manager would scoff and say “what have you done in football?” I swear down now if a Latics manager ever fires that at me, I will never go again.
We have some really hard and awkward games coming up. In truth, the Arsenal game is something we really don’t need. A distraction. And the reality is that by the time we face them we may have lost a player or two…Tickle maybe. Lose him and we have big problems.
Lose at Donny and we are in shit street.
Having slept on it…
Either the club makes a change, or I’m done.
Huddersfield are miles higher and potted their manager last night. Whilst we are dozing our way to League 2, and will end up picking up the pieces with hardly any of these players as they will mostly jump ship. We will end up with a new team…again…in League 2. Players like Bettoni and Leo Graham facing the rebuild. Although a higher club would likely take a punt on Bettoni and buy him for a twix and a bag of pork scratchings.
The fact that Lowe said about our chances created yesterday has done it for me. We created shite all and never tested their new, raw keeper at all. Ive seen some shite performances over my 40 years, but this was utter gutless. It was worse than at their place because that day they really were decent. Yesterday they were there for the taking, but we were gutless. If we were an Italian club in serie A, our ultras would be at the training ground tomorrow demanding answers, changes and at the very least, a response. But we are shitty little Wigan and will just quietly sink to League 2 with a squad of half arsed players who are on loan or running contracts down. They aren’t arsed.
Thats it now as far as I’m concerned. Mind is made up.
Wish he would use those crayons to cross out his current tactics. Our defenders are just that….defenders. Play 4 at the back and stop trying to get Aimson, Carragher and Fox involved in the build up play
Fully agree. Aimson is a back 4 centreback. He is not Carlos Alberto. Seeing him trying to beat someone on the wing…christ its like seeing Gemma Collins climbing out of a swimming pool. Its just…a mess. He is a stopper. Stop and give the ball to someone like Smith or Wright…although the midfield IS shite as well.
Lowe should be potted this week. Should be, but likely won’t.
Shite. Players are shite and manager is shite.
Cup match is a distraction we don’t need. Players will end up slipping up in league games and we will end up in a relegation fight we won’t get out of.
Owner and board are tight wad clowns as well. We keep bringing in utter shite loans and freebies. Bringing players in from fellow Lg1 clubs…if they were any good, they’d be playing for those clubs! Whilst Lowe is not blameless, he is trying to paint a portrait with Crayons. If we dont spend a bit of money this window, its time to give up.
Will I go the next home game? Not unless the owners show a bit of ambition. Its critical now. This cup match is a distraction we can do without as well. We need league wins and I think if the players get too caught up in the cup, we could slip up in crucial league games. We can’t afford to. And this squad has no fight. Most will be jumping ship come summer.
Arsenal would have been a decent away day bar they play on the Thursday away at Brentford so it will be Sunday or even Monday. I’d lean more to thinking it will be in the Sunday. I just hope it’s not a 12:15 job or worse, 4:30 either way forget the train
Trying to get my head around it, and supposing it is a Sunday, is a 12.15 kick off not good because of the train times GOING to the game? It looks like earliest train is after 9am. And I even thought about a stopover on the Saturday. Problem being it’s Valentines on the Saturday so prices up on what are already London prices. Probably a bit cheaper than I expected but its all prolonging the trip and upping the expense.
I doubt they will but if the Supporters club put a trip on thaf went down on the Saturday and stayed over Saturday, coming back Sunday after the game, I’d consider that if the price was reasonable. Especially if it gave people a few hours pottering about in the smoke. Otherwise its going to be S.C. coach straight there and back.
But it would be nice to get down about 12pm on the Saturday, and have the afternoon and night in London. Chance for a bit of a mooch, Buckingham Palace and some tea at Covent Garden or something like that. I am definitely interested in whatever the S.C. can put together.
The whole experience of going to a home game, is poor for me. We actually try and get there as late as we can so as to not be sat out in the cold.
Its rare we buy stuff on the concourse, but last home game I bought that chicken with rice thing they did. I quite enjoyed it, but wouldn’t pay £7.50 for it again. Food and drink is badly overpriced in the stadium and I’ve noticed you dont see people queuing up to buy like they used to.
The lack of a matchday programme has taken something away for me. I know we had a load of unsold programmes, Ive seen them in the storage room, but I think they should have still done a programme but a much smaller print. The Heritage programme isn’t bad. I dont seem to find out as much about things like the community trust anf other tings thats going on. Likewise, you dont get the opportunity to advertise birthdays and things like that. Its a big link with the club that’s been severed. I used to like scouring the away teams squad to see who they have, things like that.
The ticketing system is still a mess. Because 3 of us are one code, where my dad is the name on it, he is an over 65 and its causing problems when my 19 and 17 year olds want to buy tickets. I have mine on a separate client code. Its just a system that is full of bugs and issues.
Ultimately, Jason, the quality on the pitch HAS to improve. Wiganers won’t watch a boring, crap team playing dull as dishwater. Even season ticket holders are staying away and dropping off. Honestly, we could have Oasis on pre match and Margot Robbie walking around handing kisses out, and I don’t think it would make much different. One of the most fickle fanbases has pretty much had enough. Its going to take big changes to turn this around, I’m afraid. Winning football, would be a start. Excitement. Edge of seat stuff.
Talking about it tonight and we were saying it wouldn’t be a shock if Lowe swerved Deepdale and isn’t there, to avoid a very possible crescendo of abuse from the 4 sides of Deepdale.
And if we then get tonked by Bolton, there can’t be any question.
But I dont know, with this board and owner. And if we sell Tickle for 500k…and they’d sell him for that, you just know they would, we are in deep shite.
Support dwindling by the week.