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Let’s get a few things straight!!…Lowe isn’t a good fit but neither is “won’t be relegated ” Rioch…If Mr Danson is a shrewd business man then he needs yo give Wigan Athletic a f####### enema!!!…yes I’ve no doubt a different manager can get this turd polished like chrome….but come on …..70% of our players are f###### w###…….Some national league at best!!!…..Gid F###### help us next Sunday!!!
Its an absolutely shocking bunch of so-called professional footballers.
I agree fully. Some would struggle in non league. You can see why the loan players have been surplus to requirements at their parent clubs. The state of them today, about 4 or 5 kicking away at the ball when it ended up with Lisbie for his hat trick. There were people in the away end who could’ve done better.
We will find out eventually about the behind the scenes goings on, fall outs and things. Maybe ye has lost the dressing room?
But ultimately I do think the current squad is very poor. Even Tickle has lost his way. There are still people who think we will sell him for 10 million this summer. We will be lucky to get 1 million. Especially if we become a league 2 club.
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But this is Wigan Athletic. Will the board just stay silent, close their eyes and hope it goes away? It wouldn’t surprise me.Im going Arsenal because its booked and paid and I’m looking forward to visiting the top club at this moment in time. Not arsed about the game.
But I’m not going to any home games until he is gone, at the very least.
And preferably Rioch, and the whole coaching staff and scouting clowns as well. Need a complete rip-out because they’re all guilty at various degrees for how we are as a club.
Lowe HAS to go, surely? I can’t wait for all the stories and sub plots to come out about what’s actually gone on in the club. Its a soap opera in itself.
Agree with you.
I will be happy now if we get to the deadline and still have Tickle. Although from what I have heard about how he was at the end of the game, things might be moving behind the scenes. Someone said to me he looked like he was waving goodbye. I got off on 87 so I dont know.
In the main, I agree.
Lowe has made a lot of mistakes, and at any other club would’ve been sacked weeks ago. But this is Latics, and we never do things normal.
Its not just Lowe, it’s the powers above him. Ive no doubt he has been short changed in the financial backing he has received. Hes trying to paint a Constable painting, with Crayons. Borrowed Crayons at that. For that I do feel sorry for him. Eventually we will hear the truth. The same thing happened to Maloney and unless our next manager is a really strong character, it will likely happen again.
I didnt shout any abuse. And I got behind the team…as much as I could get behind them. But by christ, theyre shite. Its a really shite bunch of players in this squad. More fight in a wet rag. Given we have an owner with wealth, its the worst squad we’ve ever had. .
I DO care. And it is affecting me. Yes, its getting me down. I’m going to Arsenal…with no hope or expectation. Its just a trip out to the current top team in Europe. No more, no less. I am not going to the next 2 home games, just having a break from it. Its the whole atmosphere around yhe club, the negativity, some people revelling in it all a little bit too much. Its as much that as it is how shit we are on the pitch and whatever failings our manager has.
Does our manager set out for us to play shite and lose games? No, he bloody well doesn’t. I can guarantee that. Do the players go out on the pitch to play shit and lose? No chance. Nobody could convince me of that. You go on a pitch to win, its as simple as that. No professional football manager or players go outt to lose. Unless its some dodgy South American thing where there’s match fixing and shite like that going on. (Or Italians)
So to see the players and manager get continuously hammered….its really getting to me. Maybe they are trying their best but just aren’t good enough. I think its a mixture of that and tjem being set up to play a system that doesn’t work with them. So partly the players, partly the manager. But I can guarantee you that NONE of them go out to deliberately lose a game and fail. I mean, even Sunday League players this morning will go out to win their game. Thats football. This bunch of players, or most of them, also failed under Maloney. So thats quite telling in itself. Yes, we have spent a little bit of money. But I think this squad, if it had about 3 million spent on it, would have been top of the league. The standard of the league is largely shocking. If we had spent 3 million on a CB, RWB, LWB, CM and a Striker, I think we would be where Cardiff and Lincoln are. I really do. All season its been a case of Lowe having to use round pegs in square holes, so to speak. I’m not saying he is blameless, but hes been eworking with shit tools to get the job done. Where I think he comes unstuck is his after match comments. Is he TOO open and honest? Maybe. He is getting character assassinated of late though, and its no good.
Rioch getting slaughtered over recruitment, and it turns out he is not the head of recruitment. Joe Riley…whoever he is…is. Well, is out recruitment so poor because of the constraints of the board and owner? Because they are playing a very dangerous gamble with out current predicament. If you buy a club, you are going to have to invest some money. If they had done, we could be looking towards promotion now. And ok, people then say you need to then spend more, but you also get money for going up, and would get more income from bigger attendances. ‘Speculate to Accumulate’, they say. Thats how it works. Yet they’ve gambled on Lowe working absolute miracles with borrowed waifs and strays.
I can’t wait for the fans forum. Give me the mic and whilst I dont want to gwt into a slanging match with the club, I will come prepared and ready to voice what Ive said above. The gamble they have done has failed massively and it could get even worse yet. But I bet the forum gets cancelled or postponed. I think they have used it to buy them some time. Gambling once again, that this bunch of players will suddenly pick up and hit a run of form. I can’t see that happening, can you? No hope at all that we will suddenly hit a winning run.
2 things.
1. What happens tomorrow if we are 2 down within 20 mins and looking as lacklustre as we have for weeks? Toxic won’t be the word. The already predicted poor attendance will suddenly get even less.
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2. If the above happens, the owner/board/club have backed themselves into a corner saying they ‘100% back Lowe’. Given our recent performances, and the fact we are playing the 2nd in the table, thats a bloody massive gamble. Don’t you think? Say we get beat 4 nil and are as useless as we have been…do they turn a blind eye and still play the same tune? Or will that suddenly make them think “oh shit…”
And if that happens, the atmosphere will be beyond toxic. Its so naive what they’ve done. The best they could’ve hoped for was to not commit until after tomorrow. Then, if we play ok and get anything of a positive resulr, they could have then come out with the declaration of backing Lowe. Or, if we get thumped 5 nil, they’d have then had the room and more just cause to pot Lowe. I think they’ve been massively naive. Especially Rioch.
Yes, the fact is that the players have been utter shite.
I have come to the conclusion we have a bad bunch of players. They aren’t arsed one bit.
Either that, or theyre stealing a living as footballers. And some of them definitely are.
I fully agree with you.
We’ve too many players currently who know they won’t be here next season. Are they actually bothered?
Not one yellow card at Wycombe. A team losing 2 nil and not one of the players even goes in a bit robust to earn a yellow. And not one player protested at the penalty decision. Honestly, we’re soft as shite and got no leaders.
Crowd on Saturday? Lower than 6000 I reckon.
The clubs arrogance towards the supporters has shocked me and disappointed me in equal measure. Really disappointed me.
I don’t like the manager, or Rioch.
The owner and board are shithouses and I wish they hadn’t bought us. Take that any way you want. I HATE what’s happened to the club and what is happening to the club.
it is NOT the Wigan Athletic I supported. Fragmented club.
Other clubs axing managers….
Our club has tumbleweed blowing past.
Not a job for Baines, this. Needs an experienced head with lots of links for bringing players in. Its going to be our biggest rebuild job yet in the summer.
Fully agree, Cup Winners.
I never thought this guy would come in and be as bad or as worse as Kolo and Joyce.
But it’s happened.
And to think this guy was loitering in the stands for weeks, waiting for Maloney to be booted, with his friend pulling strings inside as well. There’s no doubt Lowe knew what he was coming into. Unless the owners promised him more backing and then didn’t deliver. Something has gone on behind the scenes, I’m sure of it. Lowe’s rant soon after the Bolton game where he said “fans have got to realise these aren’t the days of Cook, Richardson, or Martinez. We’re a million miles away from then”. I put that down to the backing he was being offered and that he was frustrated. He’s never been the same since that and its almost as if he has been waiting to get the chop recently. Thats how its felt and how he’s come across. Apart from Preston when the performance actually made a mockery of the awful performances before and since that night.
The inevitable HAS to happen now. If it doesn’t, its going to be bloody toxic on Saturday and shows the owners haven’t got a bloody clue.
No, needs an experienced head. Not a novice. Baines would be mad to come here. We’ve a bad bunch in the squad…I really think it is. Too many loans, too many running their contract down and too many who know they’ll be off in the summer.
The club and squad is in a really bad shape. Awful shape.
Its going to need a manager with real connections to turn this mess around and pull in recruits. Definitely NOT a job for Baines or a novice.
If hes potted now as well, perfect excuse for no spending with deadline coming up. I predicted that week’s ago.
Rumour going about tonight hes sacked in the morning and Bruce in. No idea if it will happen..players body language is awful, something has clearly gone on behind the scenes. Let’s not forget Rioch needs to go as well..a full bloody clear out.
Absolutely gutless.
Not just the result, but the lack of fight, the lack of passion. How many yellow cards did we get?
Did we even voice any protest at that penalty decision? I didnt see any. We look like we are beaten before we kick off! Seems no urge to bust a gut. No desperation. No emotion. We are just sleep walking to relegation.
The players are definitely NOT playing for the manager. Preston was a one off.
Most gutless, piss poor Latics team I’ve seen in 40 years. If I were losing I’d at least clatter someone. Nothing. We’ve a squad of absolute shithouses. None of them care.
Owners haven’t got a clue, either. As for the manager….if he’s still manager on Saturday it shows the owners don’t care.
I listen to a lot of podcasts, including Stick To Football.
A few weeks back, they were discussing the Wing Backs system. Amorim was being stubborn at United and wouldn’t change things.
Gary Neville said that as experienced a player he was, he couldnt have played as a wing back. He was so used to having a midfielder in front of him, normally Beckham, he would constantly be looking to pass the ball down the line. This is an England International who won over 80 caps, and played at the very top of the English game.
So what hope have we got with Fraser Murray and Joe Hungbo?
Amorim lost his job through blind stubbornness. The same should happen to Lowe. We’ve finally landed a Scouse manager who doesn’t play the Scouse way. Yet in private, he will laud the great Liverpool teams of the 80s and early 90s who were driven to play a game of pass and move by suchlikes as Kenny Dalglish and Ronnie Moran. Its simple. Pass and move, keep possession, but with purpose. Attacking football using the flanks and displaying levels of arrogance and confidence in their play.
Yet Ryan Lowe’s Latics team is anything but. Its puzzling. Is he just a shit manager? Is he as arrogant as people say? Ive heard people say he’s not a nice bloke. Ive not met him or come across him, so Ive no idea. I do know though that if I ever do meet him and he comes out with the “what have you ever done in football?’ Comment, as he did at Preston. I will tell him to fuck right off and I will never step inside the ground again until he is gone.
If he is the actual shithouse that people are saying and portraying him as, I hope he is gone tomorrow. I really do. A bad penny can destroy a club. Especially if its the manager.
A couple of clubs have potted their manager today. Id settle for us doing it tomorrow. But in reality I can see silence, nothing happening and us sleepwalking to League 2. If they let us just go down with not even a whimper or any change of things at all, they deserve the 4k crowds they’ll get next season.
Respect to you ! Please don’t be offended by my post.
No mate, I wasn’t. But thanks all the same.
Great memory Remember that game against Wycombe , slaughtered them on a glorious summer afternoon and gave the false impression of a fantastic season ahead. after that an Struggling to remember anything more memorable that season than that other than 5500 travelling to Blackburn for the FA cup 3 rd.
Yes, I was there. John Deehan set us up very cautious and we went 4 nil down against a very decent Rovers side. Only when he put David Lee on and he ran them ragged, did we start to play. He might have put David Lowe on as well. We clawed 2 back and had them on the Ropes. After the game Roy Hodgson said “Wigan were never in the game”, which angered my dad and I as we thought he gave us no credit whatsoever. We were a league one team against a Premier League side who had won it 3 years previous. With long hindsight, he was probably right though. So even then we were criticising our manager for being too cautious!
Just got back and Lowe needs to go. I won’t go into the finer details but 3-3 doesn’t paint over the sh*t show. If it wasn’t for Tickle making 4 tremendous saves we’d have lost that 7-3
On the flip side if Tickle hadn’t fucked up and our defence stopped pissing about we could have won that game. Schoolboy calamity football at times!
I tell you what though, we’ll miss him when he’s sold next week for 350k to someone like West Brom or Sheffield United.
Our defence always seems to struggle to clear the ball. My own particular attitude about defending and ‘playing’ football is to get the ball upto the half way line before we start to attempt to pass it about. ‘Don’t mess about around your own area’. Its that simple. And if clearing a ball from your own box, get it out to the flanks, to avoid a Bolton goal situation.
I don’t know how our coaches and players get it so wrong. I was coaching these basics to 11 year olds a few years back!
I think you need to be on Mastermind (specialist subject: the Latics) with the sped of that response 😂😂😂
Thats what being on the Autism spectrum does for you. I have an high I.Q. as well and just remember facts and things. It can be a burden sometimes. Mind never stops working.
I can remember things from years ago about games, but not so much recent years. I cannot reeber much at all between 2014 and 2017 do to health issues.