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Fair enough 63 ’twas indeed a reasoned reply
stick around long enough and you may well become a big hitter on here or you may slump quicker than a Martinez managed EPL team 8-)
Boring Football.
Easily the worst manager in the Premier League
I cant believe how unfortunate we are to have him here.
Only my opinion like. ;)Fo oking hell thats an essay for wigmon[/quote]
Yep, he’s convinced me with that.There were some pretty valid points in the original post of this thread even for a fully paid up member of the darkside like me but the whole post loses any credibility with the statement that:
“He is one of the best young managers in world football”
I’m sorry but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back that statement up. None
And as for not using us as a stepping stone. What is the phrase? Wake up & smell the coffee??
As someone else has pointed out, tell that to the Swansea fans – during his time there he spoke of his love for the club, his loyalty towards them & how you’d have to drag him kicking & screaming out of there as a manager. I didn’t notice much of that when he left to join us (unless you were a Swansea fan, chairman or player). The fact of the matter is that if by some miracle he was to get a better offer from a bigger, more prestigious club, with better long term prospects he would be out of here quicker than he was out of Swansea.
here’s hoping!!!I’m sorry but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back that statement up. None
He is the youngest manager in the Premier League, which along with La Liga is seen as one of the top two leagues in the world. I don’t know if there are any younger managers than him in La Liga, but I’m gonna stick my neck out and say that there aren’t.
As such he is the youngest manager in the top two leagues in World football. Therefore I feel fully justified in using that evidence to back up my statement that he is one of the best young managers in World football.
As for the stepping stone argument, I fully agree that he would leave us for a bigger club one day – but it would have to be a fantastic job I’m sure.
According to press reports at the time he turned down bigger clubs with bigger finances and fan bases to come here. He wants to be here and to make this into a better club. This is the man who refused to sign for a club in the same division as Wigan Athletic as he didn’t want to have to play against us. This would all suggest that perhaps the only job he would have left Swansea for – outside of a really big club – would be this one.
Bruce on the other hand used us to get out of Birmingham and then jumped ship as soon as another offer came along.
Being the youngest manager in (supposedly) one of the best leagues in the world & being “one of the best young managers in the world” are 2 completely different things – one does not neccesarily follow the other
It certainly doesn’t (IMO) from what I’ve seen of him in actionAs for Bobby leaving us. I’ve no doubt that he feels some emotional attachment to us from his time as a player but at the end of a day its a job/career to him & if any club that offered better pay, better prospects and better prestige than Latics do then he would leave. Who wouldn’t? & I wouldn?t blame him one bit.
To think he’d only leave us for a “fantastic job” at a “really big club” is the stuff of fairy tales in my opinion
If I remember at the time the only club he turned down to come to us was Celtic. Admittedly a far bigger club than us but they were in turmoil at the time, the scottish league is hardly the most prestigious & a club who had just finished 12th in the English top flight & who were talking of going to the next level came in for him
If it had been any other English club in exactly the same position he would have turned Celtic down to go to them too rather than stay at Swansea
Its a very romantic view you have of Bobby but I don’t think its a very realistic oneA well reasoned reply even though I cant possibly comment on the Spencer thing ! Just one criticism, you did lose it at the end ! As you are clearly a tyro on this forum, perhaps a winky emoticon would have made it light hearted and not made me think you were losing it at such an early stage !! ;)Clever fil…….
…….very clever. ;)
A well reasoned reply even though I cant possibly comment on the Spencer thing ! Just one criticism, you did lose it at the end ! As you are clearly a tyro on this forum, perhaps a winky emoticon would have made it light hearted and not made me think you were losing it at such an early stage !! ;)
Clever fil…….
…….very clever. ;) [/quote]
I must confess to not understanding this when I read it originally, but have been informed by a mate that this means I’m suspected of being a multiposter called Dave from Skem.
I can confirm that this is not this the case!! I’m just a guy who wanted to vent his anger at the stupidity of a number of our fans.
Cheers.
I suppose there’s no way to prove it either way, so believe what you want.
All I’ll say is that my name’s Peter and I live in Wigan – never Skem. But then I would say that if I was trying to cover myself.
I can’t win!!!
I suppose there’s no way to prove it either way, so believe what you want.All I’ll say is that my name’s Peter and I live in Wigan – never Skem. But then I would say that if I was trying to cover myself.
Apropros nothing – what do you think of European football, particularly Eastern Europe like say, the Bundesliga or the Czech leagues?If this really is Dave, he’ll be w@nking into a bucket before the ink’s dry on the post.
For the record, I don’t think it is him.
I suppose there’s no way to prove it either way, so believe what you want.
All I’ll say is that my name’s Peter and I live in Wigan – never Skem. But then I would say that if I was trying to cover myself.
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Apropros nothing – what do you think of European football, particularly Eastern Europe like say, the Bundesliga or the Czech leagues?If this really is Dave, he’ll be w@nking into a bucket before the ink’s dry on the post.
For the record, I don’t think it is him.[/quote]
For me it’s a win-win.
If it is him, then I look forward, again, to some rambling, controversial, overly lengthy and (unwittingly) funny posts – until the next break.
If not then Mr 63 has set a fairly high ‘personal bar’ with his opening post and should that be maintained then he will bring a bit more to the table.
Only time will tell………… ;)
All I can say from the article is the following:
Attractive football – When this season have we ever played attractive football. Oh I see, the awkward passing from the back 4 before losing possession is attractive football, I am getting it now.
Best young managers – This has to be the worst comment the light side supporters have ever put forward, look at our record with this great manager
Lucky to have him – I for one will be ok with relegation but I do not think that is lucky. I think we were unlucky he turned down other clubs and took us down.
That has to be the worst post ever and you must be a rugby mon.
Our club is going backwards for the first time in 10-12 years due to the most incompetent manager we have ever had
All I can say from the article is the following:Attractive football – When this season have we ever played attractive football. Oh I see, the awkward passing from the back 4 before losing possession is attractive football, I am getting it now.
Best young managers – This has to be the worst comment the light side supporters have ever put forward, look at our record with this great manager
Lucky to have him – I for one will be ok with relegation but I do not think that is lucky. I think we were unlucky he turned down other clubs and took us down.
That has to be the worst post ever and you must be a rugby mon.
Our club is going backwards for the first time in 10-12 years due to the most incompetent manager we have ever had
Are you sure about the last comment :roll: :roll: :roll:
All I can say from the article is the following:Attractive football – When this season have we ever played attractive football. Oh I see, the awkward passing from the back 4 before losing possession is attractive football, I am getting it now.
Best young managers – This has to be the worst comment the light side supporters have ever put forward, look at our record with this great manager
Lucky to have him – I for one will be ok with relegation but I do not think that is lucky. I think we were unlucky he turned down other clubs and took us down.
That has to be the worst post ever and you must be a rugby mon.
Our club is going backwards for the first time in 10-12 years due to the most incompetent manager we have ever had
Please allow me to retort:
Attractive Football – My original post states that in my opinion he is trying to get us playing attractive football. I agree that we’ve struggled with it thus far, but he got Swansea doing it in League 1 and the Championship, and that club now finds it second nature to play that way. Once it clicks for us, it will be tremendous.
Best Young Manager – I did not say he was the best young manager, I said ‘one of’. People of his age are, at the very best, assistant managers. He is learning all the time. Yes he makes mistakes, but that’s all part and parcel of it. Whereas alot of managers will serve an apprenticeship for many years under an experienced person before going it alone – learning from their mentor’s mistakes along the way – he hasn’t had that luxury. Some may (undoubtedly) say that he was an arrogant fool to take the job without experience, but I think it shows he has balls like church bells.
Lucky to have him – Why do you think the Swansea fans went mental when he left? Not because of the “They’ll have to carry me out” comments, but because they knew what they’d lost. Do you think they’d have lost any sleep if he’d made those comments but never delivered on the pitch? Would they chuff. We ARE lucky to have him, because he will manage the club as a whole rather than just focus on the first team. Have you seen how well the reserves are doing? They’ve not lost at home for a f*cking year! Don’t even bother pointing out that they got a spanking at Newcastle the other week – that’s a one off. Under previous regimes, the reserves were very poor and gave us no hope of anyone coming through. At Hull in the cup we had a squad packed with youngsters who had been given and then earned their chance. That hasn’t happened for years. The club as a whole is on the up. As Squire Manny Brown pointed out, a football club is not just about the 11 who are on MOTD.
You must be a rugby mon – do me a favour.
Our club is going backwards for the first time in 10-12 years due to the most incompetent manager we have ever had – see the paragraph above as to why the first part of this sentence isn’t true, and look up Kenny Swain to see why the second isn’t.
Thankyou for taking the time to read my post and comment on it.
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