Another twist.

To be honest, that says an awful lot about you

You can write interesting stuff bar, thanks for this

Be a decent Derby against Daisy Hill.

Near a motorway junction not far from Manchester.
Marketed right it could be profitable, not to mention the conference trade.[/quote]

I feel I can interject here, having some experience of the UOB Stadium and hotel. Hope this is of interest.

The hotel does a lot of business with conferences, and up until April at least, it was full around 3 or 4 nights a week. Mostly conference guests, but also large tour groups, some who were football team groups on tours through Bolton’s ‘International Football Programme’, and other groups. From Australia, America and the Far East. Coming over to play games at clubs academys and have tours of Old Trafford, Anfield and the Etihad.
Weekend events held in the Lion Of Vienna Suite, Platinum Suite, and the Premier Suite, such as weddings, bridal fairs, collectors fairs, and Boxing Events. Occasional ‘Audiences with’ events, such as Pele, Paul Gascoigne, Geoff Hurst, Tyson Fury, Tony Bellew, etc.

The hotel was/is operating as a good going concern. In fact, it was considered that it was only this that was keeping the Football Club going, with any money the place made being put into the Football Club. The knock on effect of this is the hotel has gone downhill in decor etc and does seriously need money spending on it. The lifts were continuously taking turns at breaking down. The boilers were continuously playing up. The leisure suite needs renovating…the pool needs retiling…an expensive job with the pool having to be emptied. (When Bassini was shown around, he was amazed it had got so bad)
Carpets and decor in rooms and all areas need re-doing. I dont know what state the bar and kitchens are in, they were Heathcote’s responsibility and they had their contract ripped up a few weeks ago. The ‘Pure Bar’ was only renovated a year or so ago, and isnt bad. So if Bolton then took over kitchen and bar operations directly, as I believe they did, I don’t know how they found the funds to replace equipment and stock.
I think they are valuing the hotel at around 7.5 mil. I would say it probably needs a few million spending on it as well. Last year, the hotel stayed open when it shouldnt have done. The emergency lighting was broken and this contravened health and safety. One night, it stayed open and the fire alarm system had a fault on it that meant it couldnt ring out. Should’ve closed that night.

I’ve always thought the best thing would be a chain like Best Western taking it over and doing it up. For a long time, the fact its built onto a football stadium was a major selling point. Ironically, in the current situation, that has become an Albatross around its neck. Would any major chain want an hotel built into a potentially redundant/vacant football stadium? No.
And if anybody but the same group who were to buy the football club purchased it, it would then have a detrimental effect on the Football Club, with its biggest source income lost.
A year ago, they also hosted two big concerts, by the Killers, and then Little Mix, the following night. The receipts taken within the stadium for each of those concerts, were something like four times the amount they would average for a league game. (Food and drink kiosk sales). You know those large sized, red indistrial waste bins? At The Killers gig, they filled 47 of them with empty bottles alone.
But when it came to paying the money owed to SJM Concerts after these events, Bolton still owe them money, around £250.000, I think. They shot themselves in the foot with this. Those two concerts earned them one million pounds each night. Bon Jovi and Take That were scheduled to appear there this year…but SJM Concerts pulled them, over the money owed, and Anfield stepped in, instead. (Darren Royle tried to get the Take That gig to the DW. We now have concert licencing, I believe.)
So, its hard to have sympathy for Bolton the club, although thats not their fans fault. Repeatedly burning bridges by not paying for things…you can’t work like that. There are more guilty people there than Ken Anderson, I have to say that. There are quite a few people within that club, and hotel, who gladly went along with all this nonsense when it was all running along. The arrogance around the place from a lot of these people who still think they are some great, respected, old lady of English football, was quite staggering.

And they have dragged this out so, so long now. Burned more bridges, tried everybody’s patience, massively, and messed people around so much. I can’t believe Phil Parkinson lasted so long. He aged about 10 years in 6 months. When even some their most diehard supporters are saying they just want it all to be over now, and need to start again, its just shows you.

I really think this IS it, this time. In a way, as a football supporter I do think its sad. Its a club that’s dying a most undignified, unsavoury death. One that you wouldnt even wish on your worst enemy. Football, or no football.[/quote]
Just a week since you left forever Vat. Welcome back again.

Near a motorway junction not far from Manchester.
Marketed right it could be profitable, not to mention the conference trade.[/quote]

I feel I can interject here, having some experience of the UOB Stadium and hotel. Hope this is of interest.

The hotel does a lot of business with conferences, and up until April at least, it was full around 3 or 4 nights a week. Mostly conference guests, but also large tour groups, some who were football team groups on tours through Bolton’s ‘International Football Programme’, and other groups. From Australia, America and the Far East. Coming over to play games at clubs academys and have tours of Old Trafford, Anfield and the Etihad.
Weekend events held in the Lion Of Vienna Suite, Platinum Suite, and the Premier Suite, such as weddings, bridal fairs, collectors fairs, and Boxing Events. Occasional ‘Audiences with’ events, such as Pele, Paul Gascoigne, Geoff Hurst, Tyson Fury, Tony Bellew, etc.

The hotel was/is operating as a good going concern. In fact, it was considered that it was only this that was keeping the Football Club going, with any money the place made being put into the Football Club. The knock on effect of this is the hotel has gone downhill in decor etc and does seriously need money spending on it. The lifts were continuously taking turns at breaking down. The boilers were continuously playing up. The leisure suite needs renovating…the pool needs retiling…an expensive job with the pool having to be emptied. (When Bassini was shown around, he was amazed it had got so bad)
Carpets and decor in rooms and all areas need re-doing. I dont know what state the bar and kitchens are in, they were Heathcote’s responsibility and they had their contract ripped up a few weeks ago. The ‘Pure Bar’ was only renovated a year or so ago, and isnt bad. So if Bolton then took over kitchen and bar operations directly, as I believe they did, I don’t know how they found the funds to replace equipment and stock.
I think they are valuing the hotel at around 7.5 mil. I would say it probably needs a few million spending on it as well. Last year, the hotel stayed open when it shouldnt have done. The emergency lighting was broken and this contravened health and safety. One night, it stayed open and the fire alarm system had a fault on it that meant it couldnt ring out. Should’ve closed that night.

I’ve always thought the best thing would be a chain like Best Western taking it over and doing it up. For a long time, the fact its built onto a football stadium was a major selling point. Ironically, in the current situation, that has become an Albatross around its neck. Would any major chain want an hotel built into a potentially redundant/vacant football stadium? No.
And if anybody but the same group who were to buy the football club purchased it, it would then have a detrimental effect on the Football Club, with its biggest source income lost.
A year ago, they also hosted two big concerts, by the Killers, and then Little Mix, the following night. The receipts taken within the stadium for each of those concerts, were something like four times the amount they would average for a league game. (Food and drink kiosk sales). You know those large sized, red indistrial waste bins? At The Killers gig, they filled 47 of them with empty bottles alone.
But when it came to paying the money owed to SJM Concerts after these events, Bolton still owe them money, around £250.000, I think. They shot themselves in the foot with this. Those two concerts earned them one million pounds each night. Bon Jovi and Take That were scheduled to appear there this year…but SJM Concerts pulled them, over the money owed, and Anfield stepped in, instead. (Darren Royle tried to get the Take That gig to the DW. We now have concert licencing, I believe.)
So, its hard to have sympathy for Bolton the club, although thats not their fans fault. Repeatedly burning bridges by not paying for things…you can’t work like that. There are more guilty people there than Ken Anderson, I have to say that. There are quite a few people within that club, and hotel, who gladly went along with all this nonsense when it was all running along. The arrogance around the place from a lot of these people who still think they are some great, respected, old lady of English football, was quite staggering.

And they have dragged this out so, so long now. Burned more bridges, tried everybody’s patience, massively, and messed people around so much. I can’t believe Phil Parkinson lasted so long. He aged about 10 years in 6 months. When even some their most diehard supporters are saying they just want it all to be over now, and need to start again, its just shows you.

I really think this IS it, this time. In a way, as a football supporter I do think its sad. Its a club that’s dying a most undignified, unsavoury death. One that you wouldnt even wish on your worst enemy. Football, or no football.[/quote]
Just a week since you left forever Vat. Welcome back again.[/quote]

Only because I had such knowledge of what waa being discussed. Thats all.

To be honest, that says an awful lot about you[/quote]
You might have a Mother teresa view on it all but if the boot was on the other foot I’m sure the Horwich bellends wouldn’t have the same sentiments as you do.
Shut the shithole down, nice greyhound track wouldn’t go a miss.
If you feel so strong why don’t you get a tin and go up town this Saturday ?.
Good ridence I say, hopefully at 5pm I’ll be cracking a can.[/quote]

Believe me, having worked there. They absolutely hate us far more than we hate them. They’ve a right chip on their shoulder about us.

If they go tits up today, itll be like the victory celebrations at the end of Return Of The Jedi. Need a big bonfire for Nat’s statue..

Somebody has already suggested having a big Party on Saturday at the game, to celebrate.

They WILL be saved make no mistake

EFL wont have Bassini, he,s about as reliable as a Mini Metro.