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14 June 2016 at 3:34 pm #148954
I’m a believer rang out across the terraces at the Latics, long before:
Sir Roberto, adopted it for the Latics spin campaign.
Mars nicked it for their Euro ad on TV.
The Sun, hi-jacked it to become Beleave.
Anyway, that said:
VOTE OUT :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
14 June 2016 at 6:32 pm #148956Vote Out if you’re a Sun reader says it all, they’ll be most affected when the pound crashes, minutes after the result is given as OUT and their holiday to Benidorm has to be cancelled.
Following The Sun, Farage and Boris should be enough to put anybody off.
14 June 2016 at 7:29 pm #148957It’s a question of who is more corrupt; FIFA or the European Parliament.
Believe or beleave and take back control.
14 June 2016 at 8:53 pm #148958In out in out you shake it all about. Mesmerised with it all but we need to take control and spend our taxes on what we want. Like on Scotland and benefits to everyone who should be doing the work that the overseas workers do but chose not to.
If England get clod out of Europe that may well swing it to the Beleave side Al.15 June 2016 at 1:23 pm #148961The leave vote intrigues me as to where people get their ideas from.
I’d love to know what voters are expecting should they leave, I haven’t heard one single thing that rings true or makes that vote sound like the correct one.
What do you think it will do for your job, your industry and the economy as a whole, seeing as the pound is already falling like a stone, as the vote to leave voice becomes louder. Within minutes of a leave vote the pound will be worth less than the Euro, unthinkable. Should we stay it will rise to around 1.5 Euros to the pound. Think how that affects this summers holiday abroad and those in the future.
So far, taking the politicians and the newspaper you read out of this, the experts in all fields that matter to the vote are in agreement that a vote to leave is the wrong choice. Whether you like them or not, the financial power house banks in the city of London will have their power diluted and a lot of this power will transfer to central Europe, which is what Germany etc have been after for years, shrinking our financial clout and damaging the economy further.
The vote from the NHS is to stay in, yet Boris and his gang are stating a lot of the money we send to Brussels will be re-invested in the NHS so why would the NHS think that’s not a good idea? Maybe because there’s never an actual figure?Workers Unions? Well there may as well be no Unions if we go out of Europe, how many low paid, semi skilled workers do you know who rely on the Unions for their rights? May as well dig Maggie up.
Immigration, no figures whatsoever from the leavers, just that we’ll control our own borders. We do that anyway but we do it from Calais, do you think that will continue if we leave?
One thing is for sure, if we take the risk on leaving and it doesn’t pay off, the likes of Boris & his chums won’t be affected but we will, definitely.
As it happens I think eventually we would get by on our own but it’s not worth the risk of the undoubted pain we’d go through for a number of years to get there and even then who’s to say we won’t end up like Norway or Switzerland (incidentally who have huge immigration for a variety of reasons) paying £9 a pint.
15 June 2016 at 1:32 pm #148962The leave vote intrigues me as to where people get their ideas from.I’d love to know what voters are expecting should they leave, I haven’t heard one single thing that rings true or makes that vote sound like the correct one.
What do you think it will do for your job, your industry and the economy as a whole, seeing as the pound is already falling like a stone, as the vote to leave voice becomes louder. Within minutes of a leave vote the pound will be worth less than the Euro, unthinkable. Should we stay it will rise to around 1.5 Euros to the pound. Think how that affects this summers holiday abroad and those in the future.
So far, taking the politicians and the newspaper you read out of this, the experts in all fields that matter to the vote are in agreement that a vote to leave is the wrong choice. Whether you like them or not, the financial power house banks in the city of London will have their power diluted and a lot of this power will transfer to central Europe, which is what Germany etc have been after for years, shrinking our financial clout and damaging the economy further.
The vote from the NHS is to stay in, yet Boris and his gang are stating a lot of the money we send to Brussels will be re-invested in the NHS so why would the NHS think that’s not a good idea? Maybe because there’s never an actual figure?Workers Unions? Well there may as well be no Unions if we go out of Europe, how many low paid, semi skilled workers do you know who rely on the Unions for their rights? May as well dig Maggie up.
Immigration, no figures whatsoever from the leavers, just that we’ll control our own borders. We do that anyway but we do it from Calais, do you think that will continue if we leave?
One thing is for sure, if we take the risk on leaving and it doesn’t pay off, the likes of Boris & his chums won’t be affected but we will, definitely.
As it happens I think eventually we would get by on our own but it’s not worth the risk of the undoubted pain we’d go through for a number of years to get there and even then who’s to say we won’t end up like Norway or Switzerland (incidentally who have huge immigration for a variety of reasons) paying £9 a pint.
So is it IN or OUT for you Tez?
Fuck the EFL
15 June 2016 at 1:34 pm #148963:lol: :lol:
15 June 2016 at 2:30 pm #148965:lol: :lol:Are you the type of bloke that lets the wife make all the rules ?
Thought so :evil: :evil: :evil:15 June 2016 at 3:28 pm #148966Thanks for your input Papa, is that it?
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15 June 2016 at 3:40 pm #148967The leave vote intrigues me as to where people get their ideas from.I’d love to know what voters are expecting should they leave, I haven’t heard one single thing that rings true or makes that vote sound like the correct one.
What do you think it will do for your job, your industry and the economy as a whole, seeing as the pound is already falling like a stone, as the vote to leave voice becomes louder. Within minutes of a leave vote the pound will be worth less than the Euro, unthinkable. Should we stay it will rise to around 1.5 Euros to the pound. Think how that affects this summers holiday abroad and those in the future.
So far, taking the politicians and the newspaper you read out of this, the experts in all fields that matter to the vote are in agreement that a vote to leave is the wrong choice. Whether you like them or not, the financial power house banks in the city of London will have their power diluted and a lot of this power will transfer to central Europe, which is what Germany etc have been after for years, shrinking our financial clout and damaging the economy further.
The vote from the NHS is to stay in, yet Boris and his gang are stating a lot of the money we send to Brussels will be re-invested in the NHS so why would the NHS think that’s not a good idea? Maybe because there’s never an actual figure?Workers Unions? Well there may as well be no Unions if we go out of Europe, how many low paid, semi skilled workers do you know who rely on the Unions for their rights? May as well dig Maggie up.
Immigration, no figures whatsoever from the leavers, just that we’ll control our own borders. We do that anyway but we do it from Calais, do you think that will continue if we leave?
One thing is for sure, if we take the risk on leaving and it doesn’t pay off, the likes of Boris & his chums won’t be affected but we will, definitely.
As it happens I think eventually we would get by on our own but it’s not worth the risk of the undoubted pain we’d go through for a number of years to get there and even then who’s to say we won’t end up like Norway or Switzerland (incidentally who have huge immigration for a variety of reasons) paying £9 a pint.
*Round of applause.
Awaits the obligatory ‘But it’s what our granddads fought for’ comment*
(*Note: it’s not. They fought for peace in Western Europe – and that’s exactly what the EU has given us)
15 June 2016 at 4:01 pm #148973.
*Round of applause.
Awaits the obligatory ‘But it’s what our granddads fought for’ comment*
(*Note: it’s not. They fought for peace in Western Europe – and that’s exactly what the EU has given us)[/quote]
Nowt to do with Dictatorship then ?
15 June 2016 at 4:52 pm #148975Sky News Breaking:They have a letter signed by business leaders warning of economic shock should we leave.
Best analogy I’ve seen is the leave campaign is like a gang of lads in a nightclub saying it’s crap in here let’s go somewhere else, then they get outside and either don’t know where to go or nowhere will let them in, they all then end up in a kebab shop arguing who’s fault it is.
I want some idea of what the plan is if we leave, if we got one and how we cope with short term to medium economic decline, I may change my view slightly but I’m still waiting. Worrying times indeed.
15 June 2016 at 5:30 pm #148977Fair to say both sides have spoken some nonsense and some of the figures they come up with have been exaggerated.
House prices to fall by 18% if we leave, was based on the assumption that house prices would rise by 10% if we stay and worst case scenario if we leave they will fall 8%. Both added together to come up with a scary figure!If we stay then was it 12m Turks will invade us?!
Seems every leading figure still in office states we must stay. But the past & retired say it wouldn’t make any difference if we left?
Facts would help, a lot…
15 June 2016 at 6:04 pm #148978Stay and its as you where im ok with staying buttttttttt leave and it could mean the end of the uk has we know it
Now looking at it i feel i will vote tactical for out then scotland and possible wales will break up the uk has we know it and go for independence to remain in the eu
Because personally i dont want to be governed by a tory southern government for the next 20 years or more with no opposition to control the rule of greed and dictatorship that is southern england way of life
No tory no royals no lords and fur coat slappers
Republic of scotland the way forward.__…..___…..___….Vote out15 June 2016 at 6:11 pm #148980We have been in the EEC for 43 years and has it been absolute bliss ?
We have see our manufacturing industry decline.
We have had several recessions & endless austerity.
Pension funds have been eroded.
NHS waiting lists grown out of control.
Etc, etc.Do you want more of the same; or do you want to strive for better ?
Stay in and it’s the same old shit; vote out and roll our sleeves up and prove what a fantastic country we are, and make a fist of it. -
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