- This topic has 149 replies, 28 voices, and was last updated 9 years, 9 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
much chin wagging tonight about what we are after hearing chants in the ground at games. are we fa cup champions or fa cup winners. seems diferent people have diferent thoughts.
FA cup champions sounds right and the chant is brilliant also when some foolish chant starts about empty seats from away fans ( like any team sells out in the championship!)
On that point though funny how the media never mentions the scores of empty seats seen at the likes of Stoke and Southampton isn’t it?Contrary to what some may think, we are indeed the current champions of the FA Cup as the FA Cup is a competition and seeing as we won it then we are the champions. However, I will bet a penny to a pound that the ES2 intellect crew will continue to sing it for years to come whether we are still the champions or not !
I do hope they will be singing it next season with good reason !
Defo Champions for me and when we sing it we sing it with pride, at Cardiff we sang it getting back on the coach only for some sad sod to shout back FA CUP winners not champions,what a sad git,and why not sing it at every game I can’t wait for the City game gonna be great atmosphere and win loose or draw we are the FA Cup Champions.
Defo Champions for me and when we sing it we sing it with pride, at Cardiff we sang it getting back on the coach only for some sad sod to shout back FA CUP winners not champions,what a sad git,and why not sing it at every game I can’t wait for the City game gonna be great atmosphere and win loose or draw we are the FA Cup Champions.It’s ‘Lose’ ! Just saying ! ;)
Thanks ! Filmoss !!
!
!It’s my signature, an exclamation mark a space after the last letter ! Do try and keep up !
!
The definition of champions is: a person/team who has surpassed all rivals in a sporting contest or other competition
The definition of winners is: a person/team that wins somethingBoth words have in their definition the other word as a synonym (a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language) so it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference.
The definition of champions is: a person/team who has surpassed all rivals in a sporting contest or other competition
The definition of winners is: a person/team that wins somethingBoth words have in their definition the other word as a synonym (a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language) so it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference.
If you’re looking at definitions in the English language, you could also have FA Cup Victors or FA Cup Defeaters. Yes, they’re grammatically correct, but nobody uses them – just like FA Cup Champions.
Or by the same rule, Man Utd are Cummunity Shield Champions.
Google FA Cup Champions and look at the results: nothing. It’s all FA Cup Winners or FA Cup Holders.
It’s a phrase that’s unique in Britain to ES2, DW Stadium, Wigan – the same people who also came up with the song: ‘Again, we’re going to win you again, we’re going to win you again…’
FA Cup Winners when you win it, FA Cup Holders when you’re defending it.
A knockout tournament is divided into successive rounds; each competitor plays in at least one fixture per round. The top-ranked competitors in each fixture progress to the next round. As rounds progress, the number of competitors and fixtures decreases. The final round, usually known as the final or cup final, consists of just one fixture; the winner of which is the overall champion.
Source-Wikipedia !
Singular or plural, both apply !
If you’re looking at definitions in the English language, you could also have FA Cup Victors or FA Cup Defeaters. Yes, they’re grammatically correct, but nobody uses them – just like FA Cup Champions.Or by the same rule, Man Utd are Cummunity Shield Champions.
Google FA Cup Champions and look at the results: nothing. It’s all FA Cup Winners or FA Cup Holders.
It’s a phrase that’s unique in Britain to ES2, DW Stadium, Wigan – the same people who also came up with the song: ‘Again, we’re going to win you again, we’re going to win you again…’
FA Cup Winners when you win it, FA Cup Holders when you’re defending it.
Cummunity Shield?? I don’t wanna know how you compete for that one!! ;)
Personally I would use “FA Cup Winners” in a historical/past tense so I would search google for a list of previous FA Cup winners. So for me Latics were the 2013 FA Cup winners but are “reigning” FA Cup “champions” and “current” FA Cup “holders”. the different versions sound better to me depending on the context but ultimately it doesn’t matter however coz all are grammatically correct.
In terms of the chant at Latics, for me the word champions fits in with the beat/rhythm of the chant far better than the word winners does
Incidentally whilst FA victors my be grammatically correct (although I’d use it in the sense that Latics emerged from the final as victors), FA defeaters isn’t – the synonyms of defeater are defeat, conquer, overcome & sudue. So whilst Latics may have been the defeaters of Manchester City in the final, they are not FA Cup defeatersF00kin ‘ell – I’ve heard it said that I’m pedantic but this is ridiculous
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
