- This topic has 149 replies, 28 voices, and was last updated 9 years, 9 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
The Football League champions used to qualify for the European Cup. This has evolved into the Champions League, even though not all the entrants are champions.
The FA Cup winners used to enter the European Cup Winners Cup. This has now merged with the UEFA Cup to become the Europa League.
The League Cup winners also qualify for the Europa League. The 2014 winners will be Manchester City or Sunderland.
The Premier League says; There are three places in the UEFA Europa League available: the FA Cup winners will enter at the Group Stage; the fifth place team in the Barclays Premier League will enter at the Play-Off stage; and the Football League Cup winners will enter at the Q3 stage.
Everyone agrees we are the FA Cup winners. ES2 sing Cup champions. Make of it what you will.
We are the 2013 FA Cup winners. We are also the current FA Cup championsNo one will ever notice, my dear!
We are the 2013 FA Cup winners. We are also the current FA Cup champions
No one will ever notice, my dear![/quote]
What are you on about Sunshine! :)
We are the 2013 FA Cup winners. We are also the current FA Cup champions
No one will ever notice, my dear![/quote]
What are you on about Sunshine! :)[/quote]
Well it doesn’t make me happy.
Also, whilst on the subject of words, why is “noone” now being used instead of “no one”. That chap out of Herman’s Hermits is being quoted a lot and seems to have an opinion on everything, I thought.
How’a about this then?
The first teamclub in the history of the FA Cup ever to have referred to themselves es FA Cup Champions rather than Winners or Holders are, unsurprisngly, the thick as shit fans of Wigan Athletic.
Which is no surprise really, as they fail to sing the correct words to their own signature tune (… “you never notice”?) and couldn’t even work out that when adopting the chant from the Zulte Waragem fans of “Zul…. te…” that they should have taken the opportunity to use the syllables “Wig…. an…” and used the more neanderthal “Oooh… ah” instead.
Debate it all you want. FA Cup Champions is just wrong.
Lock the thread.
correct or not, “FA Cup Champions” just works best in the songExactly – although technically it is as correct as winners!! ;)
How’a about this then?The first teamclub in the history of the FA Cup ever to have referred to themselves es FA Cup Champions rather than Winners or Holders are, unsurprisngly, the thick as shit fans of Wigan Athletic.
Which is no surprise really, as they fail to sing the correct words to their own signature tune (… “you never notice”?) and couldn’t even work out that when adopting the chant from the Zulte Waragem fans of “Zul…. te…” that they should have taken the opportunity to use the syllables “Wig…. an…” and used the more neanderthal “Oooh… ah” instead.
Debate it all you want. FA Cup Champions is just wrong.
Lock the thread.
Or looked at another way, only Wigan Athletic supporters could be petty enough to start an argument about whether to refer to the club as FA Cup Champions of FA Cup Winners when all that really matters is we won the f00kin thing
Surely you can find another tune to fit the right words. You may not get another opportunity.
We’ve won the cup
We’ve won the cup
Ee aye addio
We’ve won the cupQue sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
We’re going to Wemb-er-ley
Que sera, seraHow’a about this then?The first teamclub in the history of the FA Cup ever to have referred to themselves es FA Cup Champions rather than Winners or Holders are, unsurprisngly, the thick as shit fans of Wigan Athletic.
Which is no surprise really, as they fail to sing the correct words to their own signature tune (… “you never notice”?) and couldn’t even work out that when adopting the chant from the Zulte Waragem fans of “Zul…. te…” that they should have taken the opportunity to use the syllables “Wig…. an…” and used the more neanderthal “Oooh… ah” instead.
Debate it all you want. FA Cup Champions is just wrong.
Lock the thread.
this chat was going great til you put your high and mighty than thou act on. missus thinks you were bullied as a lad
If you’re looking at definitions in the English language, you could also have FA Cup Victors or FA Cup Defeaters. Yes, they’re grammatically correct, but nobody uses them – just like FA Cup Champions.
Or by the same rule, Man Utd are Cummunity Shield Champions.
Google FA Cup Champions and look at the results: nothing. It’s all FA Cup Winners or FA Cup Holders.
It’s a phrase that’s unique in Britain to ES2, DW Stadium, Wigan – the same people who also came up with the song: ‘Again, we’re going to win you again, we’re going to win you again…’
FA Cup Winners when you win it, FA Cup Holders when you’re defending it.
Cummunity Shield?? I don’t wanna know how you compete for that one!! ;)
Personally I would use “FA Cup Winners” in a historical/past tense so I would search google for a list of previous FA Cup winners. So for me Latics were the 2013 FA Cup winners but are “reigning” FA Cup “champions” and “current” FA Cup “holders”. the different versions sound better to me depending on the context but ultimately it doesn’t matter however coz all are grammatically correct.
In terms of the chant at Latics, for me the word champions fits in with the beat/rhythm of the chant far better than the word winners does
Incidentally whilst FA victors my be grammatically correct (although I’d use it in the sense that Latics emerged from the final as victors), FA defeaters isn’t – the synonyms of defeater are defeat, conquer, overcome & sudue. So whilst Latics may have been the defeaters of Manchester City in the final, they are not FA Cup defeatersF00kin ‘ell – I’ve heard it said that I’m pedantic but this is ridiculous[/quote]
Oh no it doesn’t….If said correctly, ‘Champions’ has three syllables/beats, and doesn’t fit into the song. ( FA Cup Champ-i-ons)
However, ES2’s finest sing the song like a shoal of guppies feeding, and therefore don’t need to break from their open mouth – close mouth rhythm if they turn it into a two-beat word – ‘FA Cup Champ-yuns’
‘FA Cup Winners’ has the right number of syllables and is much more understated.
Yours
P. Edant(PS. Just spotted my typo on the Cummunity Sheild. Don’t know what you get for winning, but you get a biscuit for losing)
How’a about this then?
The first teamclub in the history of the FA Cup ever to have referred to themselves es FA Cup Champions rather than Winners or Holders are, unsurprisngly, the thick as shit fans of Wigan Athletic.
Which is no surprise really, as they fail to sing the correct words to their own signature tune (… “you never notice”?) and couldn’t even work out that when adopting the chant from the Zulte Waragem fans of “Zul…. te…” that they should have taken the opportunity to use the syllables “Wig…. an…” and used the more neanderthal “Oooh… ah” instead.
Debate it all you want. FA Cup Champions is just wrong.
Lock the thread.
this chat was going great til you put your high and mighty than thou act on. missus thinks you were bullied as a lad
picture tells a 1000 words[/quote]
That’s an Asian website.
Bet you can’t FA Cup Champions on a British website!
That’s an Asian website.Bet you can’t FA Cup Champions on a British website!
and thats all you can come up with. grandson has better argument than that
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
