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    Bobby closely linked to two new players in Rio;

    http://www.bluekipper.com/news/world_cup_2014/7433–.html?

    #131783

    I see he’s been offered a new five year contract.

    Obviously missing out on Champions League football isn’t such a big deal afer all.

    #131788
    jrfatfanjrfatfan
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      I see he’s been offered a new five year contract.

      Obviously missing out on Champions League football isn’t such a big deal afer all.

      Don’t be fooled by that, contracts mean Jack shyte in the scheme of things. I think this move by Everton just emphasises what an utter idiot BK is.

      A poor couple of seasons and he may be left with either keeping Martinez or paying out a huge amount of compen.

      From Matlock to ManU
      What a journey!

      #131789

      Roberto is in Rio with Howard, Jagielka, Baines, Barkley, Mirallas and Lukaku (and possibly Stones too).

      He’s out jogging with Ruud van Nistelroy.

      Where did it all go wrong?

      #131790

      I see he’s been offered a new five year contract.

      Obviously missing out on Champions League football isn’t such a big deal afer all.

      Don’t be fooled by that, contracts mean Jack shyte in the scheme of things. I think this move by Everton just emphasises what an utter idiot BK is.

      A poor couple of seasons and he may be left with either keeping Martinez or paying out a huge amount of compen.[/quote]

      Which applies to all managers, everywhere. Including Rosler. I’m thinking of opening a book on when we all turn on him and suddenly decide he’s not the daschund’s nuts

      #131792
      The EggThe Egg
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        Which applies to all managers, everywhere. Including Rosler. I’m thinking of opening a book on when we all turn on him and suddenly decide he’s not the daschund’s nuts

        He’s useless. Too much rotation and fannying about. The players got to the cup semi final in spite of him and it was his tactics that cost us against QPR and Maribor.

        #131794

        I have my reservations.

        Playing at a high tempo, the players are more likely to make mistakes. So it requires more attempts to achieve a shot on goal.

        I don’t particularly enjoy watching this style of play. I’d prefer to see the players showing their skills rather than their fitness levels.

        He does have a big squad. He wouldn’t be able to rotate the squad so much without it.

        However we play, the performances would be improved if only we had somebody who could score goals!

        #131796

        I see he’s been offered a new five year contract.

        Obviously missing out on Champions League football isn’t such a big deal afer all.

        Don’t be fooled by that, contracts mean Jack shyte in the scheme of things. I think this move by Everton just emphasises what an utter idiot BK is.

        A poor couple of seasons and he may be left with either keeping Martinez or paying out a huge amount of compen.[/quote]
        Contracts might mean nothing when it comes to warding off other clubs from poaching your manager, but it speaks volumes in terms of whether the Everton board are satisfied with their manager’s first season in the job.

        So, as suspected, Kenyon’s announcement that Martinez was going to get them into the Champions League was just a soundbite aimed at the unhappy masses who wanted a big name manager, and not an important goal to be included on his Personal Development Plan.

        #131797
        jrfatfanjrfatfan
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          Roberto is in Rio with Howard, Jagielka, Baines, Barkley, Mirallas and Lukaku (and possibly Stones too).

          He’s out jogging with Ruud van Nistelroy.

          Where did it all go wrong?

          5 out of those 6 players you mentioned were playing for Everton before Martinez joined them. Barkley had already set his marker down for an England place whilst under Moyes.

          If you’ve got the money to fly out to Brazil for 3 to 4 weeks, you to could be jogging with famous footballers, they are crawling all over Rio and other cities.

          Your attempt to get a witty comparison with the George best quote is utter crap. B)

          From Matlock to ManU
          What a journey!

          #131798
          jrfatfanjrfatfan
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            I see he’s been offered a new five year contract.

            Obviously missing out on Champions League football isn’t such a big deal afer all.

            Don’t be fooled by that, contracts mean Jack shyte in the scheme of things. I think this move by Everton just emphasises what an utter idiot BK is.

            A poor couple of seasons and he may be left with either keeping Martinez or paying out a huge amount of compen.[/quote]
            Contracts might mean nothing when it comes to warding off other clubs from poaching your manager, but it speaks volumes in terms of whether the Everton board are satisfied with their manager’s first season in the job.

            So, as suspected, Kenyon’s announcement that Martinez was going to get them into the Champions League was just a soundbite aimed at the unhappy masses who wanted a big name manager, and not an important goal to be included on his Personal Development Plan.[/quote]

            Who is this Kenyon geezer you refer to,Roberto’s spin doctor? :lol:

            I just knew the Beverley Sisters would be snapping at my heels after I posted that response to Bobby’s 5 year contract extension. :whistle:

            From Matlock to ManU
            What a journey!

            #131805

            Roberto is in Rio with Howard, Jagielka, Baines, Barkley, Mirallas and Lukaku (and possibly Stones too).

            5 out of those 6 players you mentioned were playing for Everton before Martinez joined them. Barkley had already set his marker down for an England place whilst under Moyes.[/quote]

            Did you think Roberto was going to introduce eleven new players to Everton? He built on what they already had.

            Everton captain Phil Jagielka says there have been very noticeable differences in training and reveals he can “open up” to Martinez, who has made “life easier” for him as club captain.

            All the players would agree that the arrival of Martinez has helped them in their development.

            The fans are certainly looking forward to next season.

            The only person who’s not happy is you! I don’t think that will worry Roberto too much.

            What disasters do you predict for Roberto next season?

            #131806
            Who is this Kenyon geezer you refer to,Roberto’s spin doctor? :lol:

            I just knew the Beverley Sisters would be snapping at my heels after I posted that response to Bobby’s 5 year contract extension. :whistle:

            Sorry, Kenwright. Great response though. You’ve stood your corner well there.

            Course we’d be snapping at your heels. I posted the comment knowing full well you’d bite – and lo and behold.

            #131809

            But as bait, it hardly matches LostockHallLatic’s original post;

            How long before Bottom Four Bob has Everton at the wrong end of the table?

            How many days, months, seasons? We still haven’t found the answer.

            As LHL himself said a long time ago, this post is set to run!

            #131816
            jrfatfanjrfatfan
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              Roberto is in Rio with Howard, Jagielka, Baines, Barkley, Mirallas and Lukaku (and possibly Stones too).

              5 out of those 6 players you mentioned were playing for Everton before Martinez joined them. Barkley had already set his marker down for an England place whilst under Moyes.[/quote]

              Did you think Roberto was going to introduce eleven new players to Everton? He built on what they already had.

              Everton captain Phil Jagielka says there have been very noticeable differences in training and reveals he can “open up” to Martinez, who has made “life easier” for him as club captain.

              All the players would agree that the arrival of Martinez has helped them in their development.

              The fans are certainly looking forward to next season.

              The only person who’s not happy is you! I don’t think that will worry Roberto too much.

              What disasters do you predict for Roberto next season?[/quote]

              No disasters the man is a decent manager, I just can’t see him taking a team like Everton to the next level.
              I was hoping and praying he would do it for Wigan, but unfortunately was wrapped up in his technical, tactical, one dimensional world.
              To succeed in football you have to be prepared to change things now and again, unfortunately Bobby was too obstinate to do that. The aggravating part of this whole affair is that he didn’t have the foresight to appoint an experienced assistant, one who could once in a while say “hey Roberto things are not going well here why don’t we just…….”
              A Wilkins, a Clarke, a Meulensteen, a Steele, somebody with a decent understanding of what it takes to sustain performances over a season. Instead he opted for third rate backroom staff, players who have never played beyond the third and fourth tier of English football, Jones, Barrow and Lawrence the first 2 being latics legends in my opinion but certainly not premier league management material.

              I stood firmly behind Martinez during his time with us, captain of the lightside you might say, but for reasons I’ve stated a million times, chicken Martinez flew the coup when the going got tough and took his third rate backroom staff with him.

              I just can’t see him changing doing things like;

              Urging his players to keep hold of the ball even if it means passing the ball sideways and backwards when in possession 30 yards out from the opposition goals. this results in the majority of occasions back with his own keeper.

              Forcing the goalkeeper to roll the ball out to his defenders, despite them being caught in possession just outside the penalty box numerous times in every game.

              Although behind in a game, continue to pass the ball around in their own half despite the crowd screaming to get it forward and in the box. [this has already been picked up by a few Everton fans I know, they just don’t like this tactic]

              Winning a free kick 30 yards from the opposition goal and taking it short to keep possession, rather than banging it into the box where teams can get hurt. This just doesn’t happen part way through a game, it happens with less than 10 mins go and when losing by the odd goal.

              Going 1-0 up then defending deep for the rest of the game only to be opened up in the last 5 mins and throw points away.

              Not bringing subs on despite waving them to get stripped and stand at the side of him for 15 mins and longer, before finally putting them on for the last 79 seconds.

              Standing there arms folded despite things not going right on the field, even clapping players for stupid mistakes that warrant them being hung drawn and quartered.

              Yeh, the man has done well for Everton last season and has maintained their normal league position. For all the above and more, I just don’t think he has it in him to take them to the next level and I for one will be chuffed as a butty if he don’t.

              From Matlock to ManU
              What a journey!

              #131817

              Obstinate? Refusing to change his views?

              I think that this post reveals more about you than Roberto.

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