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Bickymon, shouldn’t the onus also be on scoring goals as well as not conceding?
The onus is on not to concede. As the game kicks off both teams have a point so have something to protect. It has been argued that no points should be awarded for a nil-nil draw which would most definitely put the onus on teams to attack and go for goals rather than “parking the bus”.
Bickymon, shouldn’t the onus also be on scoring goals as well as not conceding?
The onus is on not to concede. As the game kicks off both teams have a point so have something to protect. It has been argued that no points should be awarded for a nil-nil draw which would most definitely put the onus on teams to attack and go for goals rather than “parking the bus”.[/quote]
If we went 442 and got stuffed on the break like that 2nd Reading goal everyone would whinge and moan. Cornt please a Wiganer.
Bickymon, shouldn’t the onus also be on scoring goals as well as not conceding?
The onus is on not to concede. As the game kicks off both teams have a point so have something to protect. It has been argued that no points should be awarded for a nil-nil draw which would most definitely put the onus on teams to attack and go for goals rather than “parking the bus”.[/quote]
If we went 442 and got stuffed on the break like that 2nd Reading goal everyone would whinge and moan. Cornt please a Wiganer.[/quote]
Bad post that mate, not good one mate.
1 up front argument will rage on but at least 1 striker should actually be a striker……Oh whatever mate. Talking cauliflower cheese you buddy. Get gone.
1 up front argument will rage on but at least 1 striker should actually be a striker……
Oh whatever mate. Talking cauliflower cheese you buddy. Get gone.[/quote]
Anyone tried Google translate?
1 up front argument will rage on but at least 1 striker should actually be a striker……Agreed.
Wildschut did well against Huddersfield, but it’s horses for courses and I thought he looked poor in that position against Derby.
I’d prefer to Grigg playing there but I can see what Joyce is trying to do with Wildschut.
1 up front argument will rage on but at least 1 striker should actually be a striker……
Oh whatever mate. Talking cauliflower cheese you buddy. Get gone.[/quote]
Anyone tried Google translate?[/quote]
Oh right ok mate. Have you tried google translate to translate English to English? Personally I couldn’t see the point. You must be from a foreign land. Is that correct? Buddy pal.
Lostock, Its only loyalty that I am going. Ive packed in going away. I’m not spending good money to have my day ruined. When Joyce realises people come to be entertained You wouldn’t pay to go and watch your favourite band only for them to mime the whole show would you?
Belle Vue on Friday nights from March :)
BRING BACK SPEEDWAY TO WIGAN ;)I really hope we start playing well and winning games again, so that fans like you will start watching them again.
I’ll let you all know when it happens.
I fekin despair! :angry:[/quote]
Why do you despair jr? You try making so many fundamental mistakes as Joyce is in your job marrer and see how long you last. You cannot blame fans for being mad and upset. No fan of any club will go knowing the chance of seeing your beloved team win is being drastically reduced by the manager playing lads out of position and ignoring your best strike option. Will Grigg has not become a bad player overnight more likely the fact is that this boring anti-football we have adopted simply doesn’t suit the lad. Like Ali, LHL I have watched this club all my life with pride and fulfilment and its been only the last few years that has been really hard to take. Needless as well coz it has just been down to bad managers. Still fed up and upset.[/quote]
I think the last few have been tough to take because 8 years in the Prem has led people to believe we are actually a big club. We probably shouldn’t be in this league really once you take away the parachutes and we rely on what income we actually make.[/quote]
I think the majority of Wigan fans realize we are not a big club Egg. It’s not to be confused with frustration.
I’ve little optimism at the moment as playing the way we are leaves too much to chance. As has been mentioned by another, best form of defence is attack and if we attacked more then we stand a better chance of coming away with something.Agree with you on prem parachute payments, we could well struggle after this year.
There is nothing wrong with playing 1 up front, but what I would like to see us doing is playing Grigg as he front man with Wildschut on the wing. Where we struggle with the 1 up front, is that our midfielders don’t get themselves in the box and around the front man to pose a threat to opposing defences. I can understand why we’re being ultra-defensive at the moment, but hope if we start picking up points, then Joyce will switch to a more adventurous style, as surely this how he has coached teams in the past.
I’m not too fussed about formations myself Abram and as you say our midfield don’t support at the moment. Whole idea of one up front is for the midfield / wingbacks to get forward & support but we don’t.
Too many defensive minded midfielders on the pitch so something has to change.I’m not too fussed about formations myself Abram and as you say our midfield don’t support at the moment. Whole idea of one up front is for the midfield / wingbacks to get forward & support but we don’t.
Too many defensive minded midfielders on the pitch so something has to change.Mate, grip on it, he will recruit in January, and play how he feels we should. Hopefully that is good enough, but we wont know til then.
We can’t progress with all the Jimmyc’s around saying things need to change, because they will when he can.
Famalam says be patient yo.
I’m not too fussed about formations myself Abram and as you say our midfield don’t support at the moment. Whole idea of one up front is for the midfield / wingbacks to get forward & support but we don’t.
Too many defensive minded midfielders on the pitch so something has to change.Mate, grip on it, he will recruit in January, and play how he feels we should. Hopefully that is good enough, but we wont know til then.
We can’t progress with all the Jimmyc’s around saying things need to change, because they will when he can.
Famalam says be patient yo.[/quote]
Ah, your posts are getting longer jamesc..
Sure there will be some new arrivals & departures come January. But will the philosophy remain the same?? If that departs then we could be onto a winner.If Dave Snr were to ring up his old mate SAF and ask/beg him to come and help us out of this mess, does anyone really think SAF would leave 3 strikers on the bench?
Not unreasonably, people say give Yootha a chance in the transfer market, perhaps to bring in the so called wonder kids from ManUre (Powell used to be one didn’t he? :P ). A good chef can rustle up a tasty meal from the left overs in the fridge…no different for a footy manager is it?
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