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Look at Wimbledon. Got to the top level and won the FA Cup having been in non-league not so long ago. Sound familiar?
Where are they now? In another town, that’s where. Their financial situation was nowhere like as solid as ours and that was the result.
Doom, doom and more doom.
No, I’m not happy for us to go down again – but it’s not the end of the World. Our finances, despite what a few people on here would have you believe, are solid. That doesn’t mean we have tons of cash floating around that DW filches off into his back pocket. It means we are not hugely in debt, and not overspending.
The club is in transition bigstyle yet some think we should still be in the prem clodding money around stupidly. Mr Whelan is in his 70,s for fook sake and he is trying to sort out which is the best way to hand over control. How many of us will still be working at his age. We need to move to another era without Mr Whelan and it may well be rocky but my money is on him to get the decision right. How do any of us know what Mr Whelan does these days, maybe he is not making as many big decisions in readiness for him bowing out. A lot on here wanted Rosler and wanted Malky and who then want them sacked so their judgement is no better than what Mr Whelan thought was best at the time. Im as fed up as everyone else and it seems endless misery but I will never advocate sacking for sackings sake. I would however waiver my view to see Barrow and co finally binned.
Momentum Standish, if we continue at this rate with him at the helm, we could continue to sink without trace. We’ve already done enough of that.If Dougie Freedman can go in and turn Forest round, I think anyone bar Malky could get a response for us. £500k (if that’s the figure) is a drop in the ocean compared to some of the money wasted in recent times.
It’s not like we’ve not got a bit of coin knocking about is it? ;)
He has won 2 games against Brighton and us
Manager of the year then ffs.
I am starting to think some of you may just be a bit dim. I’ll explain Griff style for you.
The mention of £500k and some of you go off into a ‘at least we aren’t the next Wimbledon’ rant. The comment about money had a little winky at the end so you knew it was little bit tongue in cheek. The fact that you’ve gone off on one suggests, it’s all you’ve got to cling on to, with being so wrong about everything else.
The 2 from 2 Nuneaton, was to suggest even Dougie Freedman can get off to a winning start, I didn’t suggest he was manager of the month but on current form he may well be. FFS.
I am starting to think some of you may just be a bit dim. I’ll explain Griff style for you.The mention of £500k and some of you go off into a ‘at least we aren’t the next Wimbledon’ rant. The comment about money had a little winky at the end so you knew it was little bit tongue in cheek. The fact that you’ve gone off on one suggests, it’s all you’ve got to cling on to, with being so wrong about everything else.
The 2 from 2 Nuneaton, was to suggest even Dougie Freedman can get off to a winning start, I didn’t suggest he was manager of the month but on current form he may well be. FFS.
My point Tez Is that 3 managers have come since Bobby and the slide has gathered pace so it must be more than just sacking the man. Rosler and Malky were seen as top young Managers and yet their stock has plummeted since having the job. Much is made of finances but in our clubs case we always have to balance the books because of our stature. This clubs growth will always be stunted because we are pissing in the pond of 4 massive neighbours. Mr Whelan must go sooner or later and I believe this is why we are in such transition. I would be interested to see if someone trawled up the “who do want next” thread just how many and who said they wanted Malky after Rosler went. If I remember rightly I went for Chris Hughton coz I thought he was an attack minded manager. So 3 managers and almost all the players from the prem era later and we are hopeless. The one common denominator between now and the prem is rhe backroom staff so should we not start there.
That may be the common denominator but in terms of managers:
Coyle should never have been here. Never stood a chance, in fairness to him he had a lot of matches to contend with and as soon as we started losing, the crowd would be on him.
Rosler, started off well, cracked up, thought changing a winning team was the way to go every week, pissed everybody off it seems. Had to go after Bolton.
Malky, what were we thinking of.
For me it’s that simple and why we have gone from bad to worse.
Where is the statistical proof?Which club smaller than us or on a similar budget have achieved what we have and continue to punch above their weight a decade later?
Which of these clubs are in the solid financial state that we are?
Wigan Athletic are not in a solid financial state, They are in the black because Whelan is in charge. When he goes, You watch that plummet into debt, far worse than 1995.
If i gave you a million pounds you would be worth a million pounds. Once Whelan takes all the loot Wigan Athletic will be worth sod all and then he will evict the club from the stadium. he will somehow try to get back into Rugby no doubt now Sky have started pumping money into it. It’s an easy ‘in’ for someone like Whelan to get involved in a sport such as Rugby League
I’d have to agree with you .I didn’t expect us to be in top 6 but not in my worst nightmare did I ever envisage the plight we are in now.I don’t really know what I would expect our chairman to say if he were to make a statement ,but it’s usually very silent at the top when the crap piles up.
Most of you wanted Coyle sacked, Mr Whelan obliged and your wish came true. You then wanted Rosler sacked and yet again Mr Whelan granted your wish and now your screaming blue murder again. Yet despite all this it is Mr Whelans faultI would love to know were you got your info from
“You all wanted ……………”
“You then wanted……………..”
Who did ?? certainly not me I think your just making that crap up for the sake of an argument.I would have prefered McClaren and when were in DIV1 ? give the job to Boyce and get rid of the backroom staff. He knows what were all about like Jewell and Martinez.
Where is the statistical proof?
Which club smaller than us or on a similar budget have achieved what we have and continue to punch above their weight a decade later?
Which of these clubs are in the solid financial state that we are?
Wigan Athletic are not in a solid financial state, They are in the black because Whelan is in charge. When he goes, You watch that plummet into debt, far worse than 1995.
If i gave you a million pounds you would be worth a million pounds. Once Whelan takes all the loot Wigan Athletic will be worth sod all and then he will evict the club from the stadium. he will somehow try to get back into Rugby no doubt now Sky have started pumping money into it. It’s an easy ‘in’ for someone like Whelan to get involved in a sport such as Rugby League[/quote]
oh but we are in a good financial state!!!
First of all the stadium… this is owned by Wigan Athletic Football club with a written clause that our lodgers are our tenants and have a long term lease.
If Whelan goes what do you expect to change? :huh:The club itself is in good order and reported a slight profit when releasing the latest accounts. This season, the wage bill has been slashed beyond recognition, the cloth is being cut to our current plight.
If Whelan goes what do you expect to change? :huh:If I give you £70m and then write that debt totally off, you have gained £70m.
If Whelan goes what do you expect to change? :huh:You have got one thing right, the club are in the black 100% because Whelan is in charge. That’s what the man does best, uses his business acumen to make money and keep his ship in order. Anyone taking over the club will not need to secure any loans to pay off debtors, the books are well and truly balanced. It will be like you moving into a new house with the mortgage already payed and all you have to do is find enough income to pay the bills and maintain the property.
If Whelan goes what do you expect to change? :huh:As for the stuff you put about the rugby, everyone knows its a dying sport and is not sustainable. I think Big Dave has more chance of asking Mike Ashley to go in partnership with him than entering into any new business deals with Wigan Warriors. :lol:
There are people on this board who understand and appreciate that Wigan Athletic Football Club have been expertly managed by DW this past decade or so. They also appreciate and understand why DW has not thrown stupid money around putting his business at risk, he’s left that kamikaze approach to the likes of Harry Redknapp and co.
Yes some investment has been wasted on players, the likes of Bosselli and Holt are two good examples of that, but what about all the apprentices he’s brought to the club for peanuts, then got his managers to show um the ropes and then sold um on for profits you couldn’t imagine.
That is why we are in this current financial position and why even when he’s left the building, our club will be sustainable be it in the Championship, League 1, league 2 or dare I say itThe Football Conference league.The Premier League.
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!Where is the statistical proof?Which club smaller than us or on a similar budget have achieved what we have and continue to punch above their weight a decade later?
Which of these clubs are in the solid financial state that we are?
Who said we are in a solid financial state, that may have been the case until Rosler started flushing wads of cash down the toilet.
My statistical proof ‘Egg’ was in the link that I posted up on another thread about the chances of getting promoted straight back to the Prem after being relegated. It went into the chances of going down as well and whilst mentioning that the chances fade with each season statistically it is fairly rare for teams to go down again so quickly! The sides that have done the double drop have all had money problems some even had points deducted! We have no money problems and are still in receipt of parachute payments and so therefore something is seriously amiss!
In laymen terms- We shouldn’t be where we are now, even if we are ‘Little Wigan’ !Look at Wimbledon. Got to the top level and won the FA Cup having been in non-league not so long ago. Sound familiar?Where are they now? In another town, that’s where. Their financial situation was nowhere like as solid as ours and that was the result.
Doom, doom and more doom.
No, I’m not happy for us to go down again – but it’s not the end of the World. Our finances, despite what a few people on here would have you believe, are solid. That doesn’t mean we have tons of cash floating around that DW filches off into his back pocket. It means we are not hugely in debt, and not overspending.
Wimbledon didn’t have the TV rights money that has been given to WAFC, and the certainly didn’t have 60 million quid in parachute payments, so in real terms were they less solid than us ?
There seemed to be “tons of cash floating around” when DW was letting Rosler burn it.Here it is again! Read it through properly and then tell me that 3.7% means we shouldn’t be surprised at our current plight! 28 seasons of info right here! Again, don’t forget that we don’t have any money problems!
The club spent 10 million in the transfer market last summer and had a wage bill going into this season of 20 million and an expensive pre season which with dwindling gates and no cup runs has seen a dramatic culling of the type we haven’t seen since the early nineties the last time the club was in serious decline.
Rosler raised expectations to ridiculous levels and increased his own profile to the point where maybe they all got a bit carried away and allowed the purchase of probably the worst set of players ever to walk on a football pitch at Latics.I think a relegation will shake up the club and with no money worries going forward and prudent running of the club we could well start to recover next season or at least steady the ship,it can’t sink any further can it?
the premier league can seriously damage a football club after relegation and we where heading down that slope before they stepped in and said enough is enough and the club is returning to its old self which is the eighties/ early nineties model.
as far as I’m concerned we will be playing league one football next season but bigger clubs than ourselves have suffered this fate and it is what supporting a club is all about no use throwing the toys out and sulking.
maybe the changes we are seeing should have occurred after we were relegated but the FA cup win changed the club forever and at least we will be a much bigger entity in league one than the one that left there in 2003.I don’t blame anyone really it is just how football is and remember it will be only our third ever relegation since we joined the football league in 1978 so we can’t moan that much can we?
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