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Standish,
a. That’s YOUR opinion not a fact. I wouldn’t claim my opinion as fact.
b. How can you use Rosler and MM as your character references and not expect me to laugh?I can’t get out of my mind the fact that you said, before you’d seen him kick a ball, that young Billy would be a better prospect than Delort/Riera because he’d be able to take a stud and wouldn’t mind the cold!
I’ll hold on to my view for a bit longer ta.Like I say my real beef is with Malky, his appointment etc etc and the way Rosler ended up picking his team and setting up.
Delort in his first game v Blackburn away(I know we lost but for an hour it was arguably the best we’ve played all season) and Riera v Birmingham at home were performances the 2 lads up front we currently have won’t be able to produce imo.
Still can’t believe we never gave them a crack at playing together, despite us only scoring 10 goals in the last 16 games.
No, you’re confusing what is fact and what is opinion.
It’s not my opinion that I have seen Delort and didn’t rate him – it’s a fact. I have seen him and I didn’t rate him.
Also it is a fact that neither Rosler nor Mackay rated him enough to start him on a regular basis.
And you’re twisting my words to suit your own agenda.
You said:
I just find it weird how this dwarf in footballing terms is being hailed as our next best thing and his vids look good when he’ll be played in the exact same way Delort was. Delorts goals and talent looks better than this mons on video imo, that’s all.
I said:
Delort’s played and scored in 2nd Division French football – where defenders aren’t as quick as the Championship.Mckay played and scored in the SPL – where defenders also aren’t as quick as the Championship.
However, he’ll have been elbowed, pushed and had lumps kicked out of him each week – unlike Delort, who doesn’t look robust enough in my opinion.
And that’s the difference.
No mention of him prior to this post, no reference to the cold, Riera, or Mckay being a better prospect – merely a nod that the Scottish Leagues are more physical than the French and that Delort didn’t look ‘robust enough in my opinion’.No, you’re confusing what is fact and what is opinion.
It’s not my opinion that I have seen Delort and didn’t rate him – it’s a fact. I have seen him and I didn’t rate.
OK so it’s a fact that you have an opinion, FFS!Also it is a fact that neither Rosler nor Mackay rated him enough to start him on a regular basis.
Didn’t argue that wasn’t a fact. I laughed at you using those 2 as your back up!
The rest was a rave about a player you hadn’t seen that would be better than Delort, the fact is he hasn’t been played for whatever reason, the same as Delort wasn’t or Riera wasn’t. Hopefully tonight and Friday the lad will be played and score a few and you’ll be proved right in your optimism.
Can you honestly see that though?
No, you’re confusing what is fact and what is opinion.It’s not my opinion that I have seen Delort and didn’t rate him – it’s a fact. I have seen him and I didn’t rate.
OK so it’s a fact that you have an opinion, FFS!Also it is a fact that neither Rosler nor Mackay rated him enough to start him on a regular basis.
Didn’t argue that wasn’t a fact. I laughed at you using those 2 as your back up!
The rest was a rave about a player you hadn’t seen that would be better than Delort, the fact is he hasn’t been played for whatever reason, the same as Delort wasn’t or Riera wasn’t. Hopefully tonight and Friday the lad will be played and score a few and you’ll be proved right in your optimism.
Can you honestly see that though
[/size]?Firstly, what’s funny about backing up my opinion with the judgement of Uwe Rosler(ex professional footballer, ex manager who took Wigan Athletic to the play offs and an FA Cup Semi Final and who saw the player on a day to day basis) and Malky Mackay (ex professional footballer, current manager who took Cardiff to the Premier League and who sees the player on a day to day basis) over the judgement of Terry, Wigan fan?
Secondly, and I’ll put it plainly and bluntly this time: I have not raved about Mckay! I have never raved about Mckay! He might turn out to be as bad (in my OPINION) as Delort for all I know!
This the gist of what I was saying – because you’ve obviously missed the point or have chosen to ignore it, so, again it is summarised:
Goal scorer, French League 2 versus goal scorer, SPL
I’d go for the SPL option every time because he’s been used to a more physical game.
If you want to take that as a display of optimisim, then go ahead. In fact, judging by the mood of most of your posts, I can see why you would see that as optimistic.
So in answer, no, I cannot honestly see that because there is nothing to see!
Putting ancient ‘sack Fergie’ posts up to vindicate the advantages of sticking with a manager. Well done that is one out of thousands that have been proved wrong. Wigan Athletic did the same with the ‘martyr’ Roberto Martinez, 4 years of the worst football i have ever seen in my life and then relegation but all that is forgotten because of an F.A Cup win in which there were 2 tricky games. Full squad out struggled against Macclesfield and a (then poor) Bournemouth before being tested.
Without that ‘Fluke’ Martinez’ 4 year tenure would have been a complete failure.
I see a striking resemblance happening at Everton with the Europa campaign. He will probably win them the Europa League but get them relegated in the process.
Wigan Athletic did the same with the ‘martyr’ Roberto Martinez, 4 years of the worst football i have ever seen in my lifeHave you been at all this season yosser??
Can trading standards help in me retrieving my £300 and odd quid I wonder? ha ha ha What a waste of money !
Hi galactic, how are you doing?
How long ago does that Wembley day out seem now?Can you London Latics not get a consortium together to buy Mr Whelan out, I’m sure you must have some rich city contacts.
Putting ancient ‘sack Fergie’ posts up to vindicate the advantages of sticking with a manager. Well done that is one out of thousands that have been proved wrong. Wigan Athletic did the same with the ‘martyr’ Roberto Martinez, 4 years of the worst football i have ever seen in my life and then relegation but all that is forgotten because of an F.A Cup win in which there were 2 tricky games. Full squad out struggled against Macclesfield and a (then poor) Bournemouth before being tested.Without that ‘Fluke’ Martinez’ 4 year tenure would have been a complete failure.
I see a striking resemblance happening at Everton with the Europa campaign. He will probably win them the Europa League but get them relegated in the process.
Full squad at Macclesfield? You obviously didn’t go.
Hi galactic, how are you doing?
How long ago does that Wembley day out seem now?Can you London Latics not get a consortium together to buy Mr Whelan out, I’m sure you must have some rich city contacts.
Ello horc. Good thanks, you? Yep, we were saying that games like at Wembley and Maribor seem a long long time ago now.
I can’t even get the LLs to get a consortium to get to a game at mo! ;)
Doing the pub crawl to Fulham from mine on Fri 10th April though if yer up for it?Hi galactic, how are you doing?
How long ago does that Wembley day out seem now?Can you London Latics not get a consortium together to buy Mr Whelan out, I’m sure you must have some rich city contacts.
Ello horc. Good thanks, you? Yep, we were saying that games like at Wembley and Maribor seem a long long time ago now.
I can’t even get the LLs to get a consortium to get to a game at mo! ;)
Doing the pub crawl to Fulham from mine on Fri 10th April though if yer up for it?[/quote]I think there may be a few too many pubs between Chorley and Fulham for me to do a pub crawl, but I’m sure our Martin might be up for it.
Hopefully better days are around the corner and we will be enjoying our football a little bit more soon.
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