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Fil, its not about us wanting to go back to being a lower league club and I reckon most recent fans from the last ten to fifteen years will probably agree with your views. The difference between us who have going for a lifetime knew the game when it was fun to be a fan and enjoyable going to games every week. The game has changed so much and not particularly for the better. There is so much pressure on clubs nowadays to succeed coz of obvious reasons and its took the beauty out of the sport. It wasn’t nice when the Latics lost and you felt shite but it wasn’t the end of the world and the next game couldn’t come soon enough. It didn’t cost the clubs millions putting them in real dire straits if relegated and I think a lot of fans from every other club fondly remember the game before the money turned it upside-down. At least we have seen success and boy have we but we were never gonna sustain it . The money has gone but the club is still very much alive and kicking . We are a much better club now because of the prem albeit it was hard watching us struggle most weeks but if it never happens for us again it will still be a great club to support and never boring. We will be a championship club in the near future so enjoy the ride.
Nuneaton! You could not have put it any better!!!!!
Fil! Im not having a go. I kind of get where you are coming from. I honestly thought we could have finished in a “boring” mid-table slot this season. However, a LOT of bad behind the scenes decisions has cost the club this season. If sharpe/jackson have any nous about them, they will have learned serious lessons this season & im confident that we will bounce back.
But regardless. Just enjoy the ride!!
Nuneaton! You could not have put it any better!!!!!Fil! Im not having a go. I kind of get where you are coming from. I honestly thought we could have finished in a “boring” mid-table slot this season. However, a LOT of bad behind the scenes decisions has cost the club this season. If sharpe/jackson have any nous about them, they will have learned serious lessons this season & im confident that we will bounce back.
But regardless. Just enjoy the ride!!
We took a risk with Joyce that failed miserably. I can understand why we appointed him but it massively backfired.
All I’m trying to say is, we can’t carry on festering and having another season like this last one. Whether that sees us being a bit risky with the finances or not, we have to get a decent bloke in, an experienced manager, and back him financially, to a degree. We must have a certain budget, surely. If there’s nothing at all to back an incoming manager….That’s abysmal.
If the Whelans are not prepared to do this, maybe they should actively and openly look to sell.
What’s the point in being debt free if you have nothing to try and even improve the squad? There’s no point in bothering if we aren’t at least going to have a go at things this next season. I’m not talking daft money, I’m talking a couple of million.
If the Whelans really love the club…..
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
Of course the club’s well run.Look at two of our closest neighbours – Bolton and Blackburn:
Slightly bigger than us in terms of fanbase, and both spent longer periods of time in the Premier League than us, but one is teetering on the verge of administration and having to sell off car parks to pay its players wages and the other one is £100m in debt and is facing a fan-boycott over its owners.
There’s no Premier League money left because that’s the very thing that paid the wages and kept us afloat in the Premier League.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here when you say ‘have a go at it’?
Are you saying the club should get into debt to try and compete?
Because personally I’d rather we be in the financial position we are now than wondering if your club will still exist in six months or wondering when your Indian owners are going to drag the rug from under you.[/quote]
The situation we are in at the moment has nothing to do with the finance of the club, it has been down to bad team selection and tactics, nothing else. Plenty money has been made available for recruitment and wages, it has just been unwisely by the manager(s).[/quote]
Nobody is disputing that, but we can’t now start throwing around money we don’t have to put it right, because if the gamble doesn’t pay off, then we’ve got big problems.[/quote]I am not saying that we should through heaps of cash around as I think the squad we have is strong enough for the Championship never mind League One if it is managed and set up right.
A decent proven manager would costs peanuts in comparison to the amount we have wasted on the wages of all the unnecessary signings and loan signings we made this season.
Take Obertan for example, I know he came on a reduced salary from what he was used to, but did he offer anymore than Craig Davies or Billy McKay could have done, and I bet his reduced wages far exceeded what our two players were on.
Hanson didn’t offer anymore than Flores would have and I bet there was a massive difference in wages there.
Bruce, what an utter waste of money, he may be a decent player, but paying him not to pay was senseless.
The goalkeepers, were Bogdan and then Haaugard really worth the money when we had Jussi and the young lad from Torquay.
I bet if all the wages we have wasted this season were added up we could afford Jurgen bloody Klopp never mind Pearson, McClaren or Keen.
Any way I’m sure Stubbs will come to the rescue next season, it can’t be that hard, after all Caldwell managed to get us promoted last year.
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
Of course the club’s well run.Look at two of our closest neighbours – Bolton and Blackburn:
Slightly bigger than us in terms of fanbase, and both spent longer periods of time in the Premier League than us, but one is teetering on the verge of administration and having to sell off car parks to pay its players wages and the other one is £100m in debt and is facing a fan-boycott over its owners.
There’s no Premier League money left because that’s the very thing that paid the wages and kept us afloat in the Premier League.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here when you say ‘have a go at it’?
Are you saying the club should get into debt to try and compete?
Because personally I’d rather we be in the financial position we are now than wondering if your club will still exist in six months or wondering when your Indian owners are going to drag the rug from under you.[/quote]
The situation we are in at the moment has nothing to do with the finance of the club, it has been down to bad team selection and tactics, nothing else. Plenty money has been made available for recruitment and wages, it has just been unwisely by the manager(s).[/quote]
Nobody is disputing that, but we can’t now start throwing around money we don’t have to put it right, because if the gamble doesn’t pay off, then we’ve got big problems.[/quote]I am not saying that we should through heaps of cash around as I think the squad we have is strong enough for the Championship never mind League One if it is managed and set up right.
A decent proven manager would costs peanuts in comparison to the amount we have wasted on the wages of all the unnecessary signings and loan signings we made this season.
Take Obertan for example, I know he came on a reduced salary from what he was used to, but did he offer anymore than Craig Davies or Billy McKay could have done, and I bet his reduced wages far exceeded what our two players were on.
Hanson didn’t offer anymore than Flores would have and I bet there was a massive difference in wages there.
Bruce, what an utter waste of money, he may be a decent player, but paying him not to pay was senseless.
The goalkeepers, were Bogdan and then Haaugard really worth the money when we had Jussi and the young lad from Torquay.
I bet if all the wages we have wasted this season were added up we could afford Jurgen bloody Klopp never mind Pearson, McClaren or Keen.
Any way I’m sure Stubbs will come to the rescue next season, it can’t be that hard, after all Caldwell managed to get us promoted last year.[/quote]
Great post.
We had around 10 loan signings during the season, 7 of which were unnecessary signings. It’s funny we could suddenly chuck money at those, yet when we talk of attempting to attract a decent manager here, people say we have no money.
The club, and a fair share of its fans, are small minded. It’s time they thought a bit bigger and stopped seeing us as little Latics. Maybe in the top 2 divisions, I’d agree. But along with Blackburn, we will be the big boys next season. So let’s think a bit bigger and not put our club down, eh?
Right man in charge,we can walk that league and be taking 3000 away every away game. Or we can be utter crap again with a clown in charge, struggling, and getting beat 3 nil at home to Oldham or Rochdale.
THINK BIGGER! “The higher you aim, the higher you land”.
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
Of course the club’s well run.Look at two of our closest neighbours – Bolton and Blackburn:
Slightly bigger than us in terms of fanbase, and both spent longer periods of time in the Premier League than us, but one is teetering on the verge of administration and having to sell off car parks to pay its players wages and the other one is £100m in debt and is facing a fan-boycott over its owners.
There’s no Premier League money left because that’s the very thing that paid the wages and kept us afloat in the Premier League.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here when you say ‘have a go at it’?
Are you saying the club should get into debt to try and compete?
Because personally I’d rather we be in the financial position we are now than wondering if your club will still exist in six months or wondering when your Indian owners are going to drag the rug from under you.[/quote]
The situation we are in at the moment has nothing to do with the finance of the club, it has been down to bad team selection and tactics, nothing else. Plenty money has been made available for recruitment and wages, it has just been unwisely by the manager(s).[/quote]
Nobody is disputing that, but we can’t now start throwing around money we don’t have to put it right, because if the gamble doesn’t pay off, then we’ve got big problems.[/quote]I am not saying that we should through heaps of cash around as I think the squad we have is strong enough for the Championship never mind League One if it is managed and set up right.
A decent proven manager would costs peanuts in comparison to the amount we have wasted on the wages of all the unnecessary signings and loan signings we made this season.
Take Obertan for example, I know he came on a reduced salary from what he was used to, but did he offer anymore than Craig Davies or Billy McKay could have done, and I bet his reduced wages far exceeded what our two players were on.
Hanson didn’t offer anymore than Flores would have and I bet there was a massive difference in wages there.
Bruce, what an utter waste of money, he may be a decent player, but paying him not to pay was senseless.
The goalkeepers, were Bogdan and then Haaugard really worth the money when we had
Any way I’m sure Stubbs will come to the rescue next season, it can’t be that hard, after all Caldwell managed to get us promoted last year.[/quote]Jussi and the young lad from Torquay.I bet if all the wages we have wasted this season were added up we could afford Jurgen bloody Klopp never mind Pearson, McClaren or Keen.
Also to play the ineffective bunch of freeloaders right to the very last match after they had already proven their worthlessness by seeing us relegated was just ridiculous. Or did they have to play because of some pathetically negotiated clauses in their contracts. Just hope there is no money wasted on players on loan next season. Bruce??????ffs. Not even started a game.
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
Of course the club’s well run.Look at two of our closest neighbours – Bolton and Blackburn:
Slightly bigger than us in terms of fanbase, and both spent longer periods of time in the Premier League than us, but one is teetering on the verge of administration and having to sell off car parks to pay its players wages and the other one is £100m in debt and is facing a fan-boycott over its owners.
There’s no Premier League money left because that’s the very thing that paid the wages and kept us afloat in the Premier League.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here when you say ‘have a go at it’?
Are you saying the club should get into debt to try and compete?
Because personally I’d rather we be in the financial position we are now than wondering if your club will still exist in six months or wondering when your Indian owners are going to drag the rug from under you.[/quote]
The situation we are in at the moment has nothing to do with the finance of the club, it has been down to bad team selection and tactics, nothing else. Plenty money has been made available for recruitment and wages, it has just been unwisely by the manager(s).[/quote]
Nobody is disputing that, but we can’t now start throwing around money we don’t have to put it right, because if the gamble doesn’t pay off, then we’ve got big problems.[/quote]I am not saying that we should through heaps of cash around as I think the squad we have is strong enough for the Championship never mind League One if it is managed and set up right.
A decent proven manager would costs peanuts in comparison to the amount we have wasted on the wages of all the unnecessary signings and loan signings we made this season.
Take Obertan for example, I know he came on a reduced salary from what he was used to, but did he offer anymore than Craig Davies or Billy McKay could have done, and I bet his reduced wages far exceeded what our two players were on.
Hanson didn’t offer anymore than Flores would have and I bet there was a massive difference in wages there.
Bruce, what an utter waste of money, he may be a decent player, but paying him not to pay was senseless.
The goalkeepers, were Bogdan and then Haaugard really worth the money when we had
Any way I’m sure Stubbs will come to the rescue next season, it can’t be that hard, after all Caldwell managed to get us promoted last year.[/quote]Jussi and the young lad from Torquay.I bet if all the wages we have wasted this season were added up we could afford Jurgen bloody Klopp never mind Pearson, McClaren or Keen.
Also to play the ineffective bunch of freeloaders right to the very last match after they had already proven their worthlessness by seeing us relegated was just ridiculous. Or did they have to play because of some pathetically negotiated clauses in their contracts. Just hope there is no money wasted on players on loan next season. Bruce??????ffs. Not even started a game.[/quote]
We waste money stupidly…..then say there’s nothing left in the pot. That’s really great management of the club.
Can’t wait to see what move the club makes next….I’m awaiting someone like Marcus Bignot, ex Grimsby manager to be installed because he is 1. Available, and 2. It won’t cost us anything. Another chapter in the ongoing comedy.
How do people know we paid the wages of all our loanees? Maybe that was part of the reasoning behind the stupid play if he’s fit deals? “You give him experience and we will pay his wages” ir happens.
Whelans been tryna sell for yearsProblem being whelan wants to sell the club but not the stadium or training grounds so he can charge rent for the use of them
Good for him but not good to any potential buyer has they would have no assets but players._.Saying that the best have been flogged off alreadyWhelans been tryna sell for years
Problem being whelan wants to sell the club but not the stadium or training grounds so he can charge rent for the use of them
Good for him but not good to any potential buyer has they would have no assets but players._.Saying that the best have been flogged off already[/quote]And there’s your opportunity bicky.
start your own business by opening a market stall then grow it into a multi-million-pound organisation by astute acquisitions and shrewd business acumen then you can buy both the club and stadium from Whelan and make yourself even richer.
There have been some shocking decisions and I don’t think anybody is denying that, but when people sit there and throw names around like Nigel Pearson for manager and say we should be signing player A, B or C who would all command a big fee and wage then they have clearly lost the plot.
Like Standish said, the last manager who asked for money was told to do one and did.
It’s time pack up then.
Simple as that. Either have a good go at it, or don’t frigging bother. Can’t keep running club way we are, Scrattin about.
So much for all those premiership seasons of the club being “well ran”. Really? Because of there’s jack all in the pot now, I don’t see that as being well ran.
Appoint a decent manager or pack up.[/quote]
Of course the club’s well run.Look at two of our closest neighbours – Bolton and Blackburn:
Slightly bigger than us in terms of fanbase, and both spent longer periods of time in the Premier League than us, but one is teetering on the verge of administration and having to sell off car parks to pay its players wages and the other one is £100m in debt and is facing a fan-boycott over its owners.
There’s no Premier League money left because that’s the very thing that paid the wages and kept us afloat in the Premier League.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here when you say ‘have a go at it’?
Are you saying the club should get into debt to try and compete?
Because personally I’d rather we be in the financial position we are now than wondering if your club will still exist in six months or wondering when your Indian owners are going to drag the rug from under you.[/quote]
The situation we are in at the moment has nothing to do with the finance of the club, it has been down to bad team selection and tactics, nothing else. Plenty money has been made available for recruitment and wages, it has just been unwisely by the manager(s).[/quote]
Nobody is disputing that, but we can’t now start throwing around money we don’t have to put it right, because if the gamble doesn’t pay off, then we’ve got big problems.[/quote]I am not saying that we should through heaps of cash around as I think the squad we have is strong enough for the Championship never mind League One if it is managed and set up right.
A decent proven manager would costs peanuts in comparison to the amount we have wasted on the wages of all the unnecessary signings and loan signings we made this season.
Take Obertan for example, I know he came on a reduced salary from what he was used to, but did he offer anymore than Craig Davies or Billy McKay could have done, and I bet his reduced wages far exceeded what our two players were on.
Hanson didn’t offer anymore than Flores would have and I bet there was a massive difference in wages there.
Bruce, what an utter waste of money, he may be a decent player, but paying him not to pay was senseless.
The goalkeepers, were Bogdan and then Haaugard really worth the money when we had Jussi and the young lad from Torquay.
I bet if all the wages we have wasted this season were added up we could afford Jurgen bloody Klopp never mind Pearson, McClaren or Keen.
Any way I’m sure Stubbs will come to the rescue next season, it can’t be that hard, after all Caldwell managed to get us promoted last year.[/quote]
JJ has said in the past the money is there for a manager’s salary – and they’ll pay for the right candidate.
The problem we’ve got is attracting those managers when they see the low crowds, club’s modest resources and what little they’ll have to spend on new signings.
As Egg said, who knows what and how much we paid for any of those loan players?
I’ll guarantee we’ve haven’t paid much toward the salaries of them as they have been sent to us to get experience or to get fit, hence why there’s quite possibly clauses in their contracts to ensure they get as much playing time as possible.
Whatever the actual cost was of getting those players in by Joyce, it would have easily been covered by the money we got for Wildschut.
And, yes the club has wasted money. But that’s down to the manager. He’s the football man, and he tells JJ and Sharpe who he wants.
In paper today that it’s between Jones of Luton and Clarke of Bristol Rovers.
I’m sorry, but if true, I really despair.
It’s an absolute crock, and nobody will convince me otherwise.
I’m sorry, but if true, I really despair.It’s an absolute crock, and nobody will convince me otherwise.
Well, I’m in shock at that I really am.
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