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The Irish could pick a team of all Irish players if they so wished. They would pick players from the Irish league.
My post was a response to that from Bickymon that none of the Ireland RL team play in the Irish league. Nor do any of the Irish football team.
To try and grow the sport in these countries they need to give them a pinnacle to strive for and hopefully the World Cup can be that if they manage it correctly.
Obviously 99.9% of the posters on here will hope it falls on its face and will find faults with every single aspect no matter how tedious, but from a RL point of view the opening round has been good with 2 stadium records and hopefully with 2 confirmed sell outs to come and some strong sales elsewhere that will carry on. I’m not the biggest fan of Americans but hopefully they get a win tonight.
I know your post was in response to Bickymon.
In actual fact his question was moot anyway, as there are dozens of national football teams whose entire squads play overseas.
In answer, yes you’re right, you could have an Irish Rugby League squad made up of genuine Irish players, but they’d all be amateurs and would be so far off the standard of England, Australia, and New Zealand that it would be an embarrassment to allow them into the tournament.
My comment regarding the Irish football squad was in reference to professional players. And though their chances of qualifying for tournaments would disappear overnight, if the FAI wanted a squad of genuine Irish professional players to compete at a competitive level, then they could arrange that easily.
My point is – as Tyldesley has said – with the RLWC they are trying to create something it isn’t. The tournament, effectively, is a drawn out process to see if it’s England or New Zealand who play Australia in the final.
It’ll never become a major sport in Ireland or Wales because Union is far too strong, and the US already has too many sports for it to make any sort of an impact there.
They should just concentrate their efforts on the traditional Rugby League playing and watching countries.
question for egg and slutty
can you name the irish rugby league and usa rugby league team ,if not then five players from each team
will do
also the teams they play for in their country and name of the leagues in the country
also could you tell me the current champions of both usa and irish rugby league
thank youEgg has given you your answer.
How about now you tell me how many Wigan-born players have played for Wigan Athletic’s first team in a league fixture over the past 8 seasons?
And name them….[/quote]
Why the past 8 seasons?
Talk about tailoring a question so you get the answer you want.[/quote]
Plus, he’s already asked the same question umpteen times in the past.
I’ll take a guess at Gary Walsh.Played the last of his 5 league games for Wigan on 3 April 2004 in a 0-1 home defeat to Wimbledon.
Surely there must be someone else since then? Its a football town tha’ knows….
I’ll take a guess at Gary Walsh.
Played the last of his 5 league games for Wigan on 3 April 2004 in a 0-1 home defeat to Wimbledon.
Surely there must be someone else since then? Its a football town tha’ knows….[/quote]
Okay, so your point is what? Wiganers are not genetically designed to play football?I’d say it suggests that in a gene pool as deep as football, it take something extra special to become a professional player, whereas in Rugby League’s shallow puddle it’s nowhere near as difficult to make the step up from amateur to professional because the competition for places is a fraction of what it is in football.
And why was Gary Walsh the last Wiganer to play for the first team? Because soon after his last game we were playing in the Premier League.
There’s a lot more chance of local lads playing when the standard required of them isn’t as high.
I’ll take a guess at Gary Walsh.
Played the last of his 5 league games for Wigan on 3 April 2004 in a 0-1 home defeat to Wimbledon.
Surely there must be someone else since then? Its a football town tha’ knows….[/quote]
Is it really that hard to grasp that when a game is played seriously in a small area of (old) Lancashire, a small area of Yorkshire, a small part of Cumbria, 2 states of Australia, a small part of France and New Zealand that the majority of players in the sport are going to come from those areas?
On the other hand is it really that hard to grasp that when a game is played seriously in almost every country in the world, the chances of people from a town with a population of 95,000 being able to make it to the top of the sport and specifcally in a league which the majority of players want to play in (for money reasons alone) are significantly reduced????Like it or not, Wigan is a football town. More people watch & play football than rugby league. That’s a fact – it’s why a certain millionaire can make money out of opening a soccerdome in the town yet no-one thinks there’s money to be made from a rugbyleaguedome. It’s also why the pubs & clubs of Wigan will be next to deserted for the England fixtures in the Rugby League World Cup but they’ll be a lot fuller for England’s fixtures in next year’s football world cup
I’ll take a guess at Gary Walsh.
Played the last of his 5 league games for Wigan on 3 April 2004 in a 0-1 home defeat to Wimbledon.
Surely there must be someone else since then? Its a football town tha’ knows….[/quote]
Is it really that hard to grasp that when a game is played seriously in a small area of (old) Lancashire, a small area of Yorkshire, a small part of Cumbria, 2 states of Australia, a small part of France and New Zealand that the majority of players in the sport are going to come from those areas?
On the other hand is it really that hard to grasp that when a game is played seriously in almost every country in the world, the chances of people from a town with a population of 95,000 being able to make it to the top of the sport and specifcally in a league which the majority of players want to play in (for money reasons alone) are significantly reduced????Like it or not, Wigan is a football town. More people watch & play football than rugby league. That’s a fact – it’s why a certain millionaire can make money out of opening a soccerdome in the town yet no-one thinks there’s money to be made from a rugbyleaguedome. It’s also why the pubs & clubs of Wigan will be next to deserted for the England fixtures in the Rugby League World Cup but they’ll be a lot fuller for England’s fixtures in next year’s football world cup[/quote]
I almost included words to that effect in my post!Like it or not, Wigan is a football town. More people watch & play football than rugby league. That’s a fact – it’s why a certain millionaire can make money out of opening a soccerdome in the town yet no-one thinks there’s money to be made from a rugbyleaguedome.Yet you, Standish, Bicky and 30+ cannot name a single Wigan-born player who has played for Wigan since 2004 – nine years ago. Gary Walsh was born in Wigan, but only played for his home-town club at the very end of his career. Hardly a resounding success story for a football town and their soccerdome to have produced zero players for the club.
The only Wigan-born player I can find that is making a success of playing premiership football is Leon Osman.
Mutty all questions have been answered you must be a bit thick to understand the answers put before you the very fact there are more football pitches than Rugby ones in the area suggests that your tactic of questioning is irrelevent a bit like the RLWC to anyone outside the M62 corridor :woohoo: :woohoo:
Like it or not, Wigan is a football town. More people watch & play football than rugby league. That’s a fact – it’s why a certain millionaire can make money out of opening a soccerdome in the town yet no-one thinks there’s money to be made from a rugbyleaguedome.
Yet you, Standish, Bicky and 30+ cannot name a single Wigan-born player who has played for Wigan since 2004 – nine years ago. Gary Walsh was born in Wigan, but only played for his home-town club at the very end of his career. Hardly a resounding success story for a football town and their soccerdome to have produced zero players for the club.
The only Wigan-born player I can find that is making a success of playing premiership football is Leon Osman.[/quote]
There are 69 ‘football cities’ in Britain and 936 ‘football towns’, all competing with around a million football towns and cities in other countires to provide players to take the 500 Premier League squad numbers.On the other hand, the 30 or Rugby League towns and cities of Britain provide a majority of the players for Super League.
As I said earlier: when the standards required are lower, you have more local lads playing.
It’s maybe not hugely significant in the greater scheme of things, but can I point out that last night, a very rainy miserable night that even I, an aficionado of non-league football, stayed wrapped up indoors there were three North West Counties games in the borough:
St Helens Town (at Ashton Athletic’s ground) – attendance 63
Robin Park – att 53
Ashton Town – att 52So on a miserable night 168 people came out to watch level 9 and 10 football in a rugby town.
Mutty all questions have been answeredNo it wasnt. I gave you the answer. None. Nill. Zero. Zip. F**k all. The best we can come up with is a journeyman lower league plodder from the 1990s and a goalkeeper who warmed the bench for the last 3 years of his career.
Its a pretty poor show that a football-mad town with so many football pitches and leagues, a purpose built soccerdome, and a football club (with an academy) who dined at the top table of English football for 8 years have failed to produce a single player. Whoever runs the football youth development in Wigan has failed more spectacularly than that Shoesmith woman did in Haringay.
Even now, in the CCC, there is not a single Wigan lad in the 18 man squad for tonight’s game.
When is a Wigan lad going to represent his home-town football club?
I don’t know your that paronoid you’ve forgot what the original context of this thread is admittedly turned by the numpty known as Bickymon as I have said the question has been answered this sport is not confined to the M62 and a bit of France and three states of Aus
You flatter yourself as a Wiganer who chose to abandon your home town club to support the mighty Mackems you probably watch both teams not more than a dozen times a season I am flattered that you have bit so many times not only on this thread but over the last few years.
Now I did ask the question why is there little appatite for the RLWC in the pubs and clubs of Wigan and I was cheering on England for the ten maybe twenty minutes they managed to match the Aussies then it was back to normal
Do you Rugby fans think that there will be a significant cash increase in the sport in the next five years up to the next World cup in SL to stop the current falling out instigated by Pollard ?
Mutty all questions have been answered
No it wasnt. I gave you the answer. None. Nill. Zero. Zip. F**k all. The best we can come up with is a journeyman lower league plodder from the 1990s and a goalkeeper who warmed the bench for the last 3 years of his career.
Its a pretty poor show that a football-mad town with so many football pitches and leagues, a purpose built soccerdome, and a football club (with an academy) who dined at the top table of English football for 8 years have failed to produce a single player. Whoever runs the football youth development in Wigan has failed more spectacularly than that Shoesmith woman did in Haringay.
Even now, in the CCC, there is not a single Wigan lad in the 18 man squad for tonight’s game.
When is a Wigan lad going to represent his home-town football club?[/quote]
Why not issue a response to my post Mutty? (The one where I’ve explained why)
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