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Plenty haven’t done much in their time at Wigan, generally because they didn’t get played due to a succession of managers being inept.
Do you really believe that a succession of managers working day-in day-out have chosen not to pick players because they cannot see what you obviously can?[/quote]
Yes I genuinely think he does.[/quote]
Yes I do, backed up by the fact that none of these players played enough, none of those managers are here (sacked) and we are now in division one.
Mark my words those 2 will do well and Rangers will have nothing but good things to say about them. Oh and before anyone says Scottish football is cack and 3rd division standard, that’s what division we’re in and they would have made a big difference this year. We’ve made 1 good signing and made several bad sales.[/quote]Yet the coaching and management staff that are here now are happy to let them go and I think they’ve probably noticed that we’re now in League 1. Thye’ve also seen these players – and their attitide – day in day out on the training ground for quite a while now. I’ll take their judgement over yours.
Hi Griff, it’s nice to hear from you again :lol:
It would be quite naïve to think that the current management are letting these 2 go for any other reason than to get them off the wage bill.
I think we needed them to stay, for the purpose of promotion and I think it would be a small price to pay their wages.Anyone stating players were not good enough to play, as decided by not getting selected (Waghorn 8 goals in 38 appearances, 17 as sub) are inevitably defending the inept management team of previous regimes, which now sees us in Div 1 after playing the lone star Fortune in most of those games.
Whether my judgement is good or bad is an irrelevance, I didn’t make the decisions they made, which sees us where we are.
I don’t think the current team management have had any say in who goes. In my honest opinion I just think we’re left with a closed shop of yes men and arse sniffers.
And for the record, I was quite looking forward to this season, I’ve accepted quite comfortably where we are. I just think apart from the signing of Griggs, we’ve had a very poor recruitment and retainment policy so far.
Hi Griff, it’s nice to hear from you again :lol:It would be quite naïve to think that the current management are letting these 2 go for any other reason than to get them off the wage bill.
I think we needed them to stay, for the purpose of promotion and I think it would be a small price to pay their wages.Anyone stating players were not good enough to play, as decided by not getting selected (Waghorn 8 goals in 38 appearances, 17 as sub) are inevitably defending the inept management team of previous regimes, which now sees us in Div 1 after playing the lone star Fortune in most of those games.
Whether my judgement is good or bad is an irrelevance, I didn’t make the decisions they made, which sees us where we are.
I don’t think the current team management have had any say in who goes. In my honest opinion I just think we’re left with a closed shop of yes men and arse sniffers.
And for the record, I was quite looking forward to this season, I’ve accepted quite comfortably where we are. I just think apart from the signing of Griggs, we’ve had a very poor recruitment and retainment policy so far.
Despite me highlighting it in a hyphenated section, you ignored the fact that I used the word “attitude”. Not all is always as it seems if you’re not at the training ground or around the club every day [taps nose].
But you’re right, getting them off the wage bill is probaly the main, and sensible, reason. That, and the fact that neither of them were really all that.
Mark my words those 2 will do well and Rangers will have nothing but good things to say about them. Oh and before anyone says Scottish football is cack and 3rd division standard, that’s what division we’re in and they would have made a big difference this year. We’ve made 1 good signing and made several bad sales.Scottish Challenge Cup
Hibernian 2 (Stanton, Cummings) Rangers 6 (Tavernier, Waghorn 2, Halliday, Miller 2)
Well, they got off to a good start yesterday.
Hibs, after they settled down, were generally superior to Rangers last season. After 11 departures in the close season, Warburton has had to rebuild the Rangers team.
Fyvie was playing for Hibs.
The BBC report;
It took a moment of individual aplomb for the team to regroup, with Tavernier sweeping a free-kick into the top corner from the left edge of the penalty area.
Moments later, the full-back impressed again as he slipped a pass through for Jason Holt, whose cross was converted from close range by Waghorn.
The goals changed the dynamic of the match and Waghorn struck again just after the interval, his shot bouncing into the net off Hibs goalkeeper Mark Oxley.
And folk on here like to quote our previous managers as good back up for not giving the likes of these 2 a good chance in the team.
Quality were desperate for, gone and succeeding elsewhere. We’ve been clueless at this club for some time now when it comes to giving the right players a chance.
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to me
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to meYes I’m sure we would be challenging for the Premier League title had we employed you as opposed to Coyle or Rosler.
And folk on here like to quote our previous managers as good back up for not giving the likes of these 2 a good chance in the team.Quality were desperate for, gone and succeeding elsewhere. We’ve been clueless at this club for some time now when it comes to giving the right players a chance.
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to me
Bankrupt probably
And folk on here like to quote our previous managers as good back up for not giving the likes of these 2 a good chance in the team.Quality were desperate for, gone and succeeding elsewhere. We’ve been clueless at this club for some time now when it comes to giving the right players a chance.
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to me
I do reckon you would have signed a defender when we needed them.such as a Certain John Stones,A bargin for 3 mil.When Everton may draw very good money for him.If only we had payed the asking price of Barnsley. ;)
After scoring in the Scottish challenge cup against second tier Scottish opposition (containing the mercurial Fraser Fyvie) it’s obvious these lads would have set the league on fire for us. They were both tremendous in the Latics shirt and played a vital part in our success last season. Why we sent Tavernier on loan is beyond us all and why Bristol City showed no interest in signing him is beyond me. Absolute disgrace!
And folk on here like to quote our previous managers as good back up for not giving the likes of these 2 a good chance in the team.
Quality were desperate for, gone and succeeding elsewhere. We’ve been clueless at this club for some time now when it comes to giving the right players a chance.
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to me
I do reckon you would have signed a defender when we needed them.such as a Certain John Stones,A bargin for 3 mil.When Everton may draw very good money for him.If only we had payed the asking price of Barnsley. ;)[/quote]
Martinez knew where he himself would be come the end of that season and so with hindsight it is no surprise that Stones swerved coming to Wigan and went to Everton! He didn’t play at all until the following August when Martinez was manager, you do the math! :)
Martinez knew where he himself would be come the end of that season and so with hindsight it is no surprise that Stones swerved coming to Wigan and went to Everton! He didn’t play at all until the following August when Martinez was manager, you do the math! :)It’s a conspiracy!
And folk on here like to quote our previous managers as good back up for not giving the likes of these 2 a good chance in the team.Quality were desperate for, gone and succeeding elsewhere. We’ve been clueless at this club for some time now when it comes to giving the right players a chance.
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to me
It must be quite galling for you to realise that, to the contrary, absolutely nobody listens to, or takes heed of, a single word you utter. If Carslberg did deluded, arrogant know-nowts…
And folk on here like to quote our previous managers as good back up for not giving the likes of these 2 a good chance in the team.
Quality were desperate for, gone and succeeding elsewhere. We’ve been clueless at this club for some time now when it comes to giving the right players a chance.
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to me
It must be quite galling for you to realise that, to the contrary, absolutely nobody listens to, or takes heed of, a single word you utter. If Carslberg did deluded, arrogant know-nowts…[/quote]
A chomp of epic proportions
And folk on here like to quote our previous managers as good back up for not giving the likes of these 2 a good chance in the team.
Quality were desperate for, gone and succeeding elsewhere. We’ve been clueless at this club for some time now when it comes to giving the right players a chance.
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to me
It must be quite galling for you to realise that, to the contrary, absolutely nobody listens to, or takes heed of, a single word you utter. If Carslberg did deluded, arrogant know-nowts…[/quote]
A chomp of epic proportions[/quote]
Not really. You know full well that you actually believe it to be true.
A chump of epic proportions
And folk on here like to quote our previous managers as good back up for not giving the likes of these 2 a good chance in the team.
Quality were desperate for, gone and succeeding elsewhere. We’ve been clueless at this club for some time now when it comes to giving the right players a chance.
It’s a case of where would we be now if everyone listened to me
It must be quite galling for you to realise that, to the contrary, absolutely nobody listens to, or takes heed of, a single word you utter. If Carslberg did deluded, arrogant know-nowts…[/quote]
A chomp of epic proportions[/quote]
Not really. You know full well that you actually believe it to be true.
A chump of epic proportions[/quote]
Chomp with an edit, just keeps getting better
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