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13 February 2019 at 5:16 pm #176251
Rotherham not won away all season. Wonder how many of their fans want Paul Warne sacked…..
Currently 3rd favourites to go down, 1-2 with some bookmakers! ;)[/quote]
Exactly, and yet on this board they don’t seem to be calling for his head despite being in a worse position than we are
https://www.millersbanter.co.uk/f615084/football-sport-rufc-related/
13 February 2019 at 8:02 pm #176260Okay, okay I was one with a bucket, when I say bad times I mean losing every other game, not the position we are in the football league.
No doubt some on here would have topped themselves watching us flounder under Bill Kenyon.I can understand the young fans having a moan, but looking at the user names these are older fans with obviously short memories.
I remember the Kenyon days very well. But we were paying players £200 pw then. We had players like Ronnie Hildersley, David Fairclough, has beens. We had a fair share of never will be’s as well. Richard Brolly, Johnny Magee…probably cant even remember him. There were countless others.
I did like Phil Daley though. Considering we signed him from Neston, he actually did a very good job for us. There was a time when players who hadnt quite made it at Crewe Alexandra were our great big hopes. Andy Lyons…did great, Danny Vaughan…disappeared.
Im just reminiscing here….[/quote]
I think the players were on slightly more than £10,400 a year VAT – I had a friend who was working with Alan Johnson’s mate whilst he was at Latics and the figure he got told he was on was somewhat higher than that. I’m struggling to remember it now but I have either £18k or £35k in my head
Fairclough & Hildersley were awful and I’d agree on Daley – his partnership for a season with Gary Worthington was superb & I’m sure got us around 40 goals between them
Danny Vaughan was an odd one coz I thought he looked superb in Swain’s pre-season & then he just disappeared. i did hear rumours years later of some dodgy out of Latics stuff but have no idea whether they are true[/quote]
Nah, no way were players on that kind of money at Latics back then. We are talking almost 30 years ago dont forget, £10,400 was pretty much a standard working mans wage then. We had players such as Andy Lyons who also worked as a postman, and we had lads who had a trade as well. Also, I recall Neill Rimmer had his own personal insurance guy who used to come in and see him about his finances and things. The player had obviously taken care of this himself. I think we had a club admin at Springfield Park of around 8 people when we left there. Thats covering ticketoffice, shop and office. Right up to Brenda at the top.
Wages went up in 95 when Whelan came in, but then again, so did the quality of player.
13 February 2019 at 11:33 pm #176266Average working wages weren’t that low back then even if I was a lazy arse student at the time so I don’t think Latics were paying that low (& in Alan Johnson’s time I’m talking 1992/1993ish)
This link takes you to some averages:
http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2011/10/30/revealed-official-english-football-wage-figures-for-the-past-25-years-301002/
So in the time I’m thinking of the £18k for div 3/div 2/lge 1 as were in 92/93 seems about reet14 February 2019 at 2:08 am #176270Chance to pull clear wasted next game Powell Massey must start hold on that’s part of the foursome with Crackers and now departed Grigg so they’ll be on the bench again, bum twitching time Reading just won, and Cooks ballsed it up again.
COOK (the comedian) out.14 February 2019 at 2:54 am #176272I thought it was a well deserved point against a Stoke team littered with valuable players.
My only gripe was Clarke, for me he’s just not good enough. I thought that first time round and nothings changed my mind now.Out of a Vaughan, Garner and Clarke, Clarke would be my 3rd choice. God knows why Vaughan left for him
14 February 2019 at 3:00 am #176273Good point that. Thought we played some decent stuff and great to see Powell back on the field.
14 February 2019 at 3:07 am #176274I thought it was a well deserved point against a Stoke team littered with valuable players.
My only gripe was Clarke, for me he’s just not good enough. I thought that first time round and nothings changed my mind now.Out of a Vaughan, Garner and Clarke, Clarke would be my 3rd choice. God knows why Vaughan left for him
All eaqually ineffective without a strike partner. They have all had their best times when playing in a two up top formation.
Why all three were signed when we never play that way is baffling.14 February 2019 at 11:35 am #176280I thought it was a well deserved point against a Stoke team littered with valuable players.
My only gripe was Clarke, for me he’s just not good enough. I thought that first time round and nothings changed my mind now.Out of a Vaughan, Garner and Clarke, Clarke would be my 3rd choice. God knows why Vaughan left for him
I thought so too. Same story first half of creating a few chances but not taking them. We probably shaded that half and them the 2nd. Draw a fair result.
Not great with Reading winning but still 5 clear of the drop.
14 February 2019 at 2:30 pm #176285I thought it was a well deserved point against a Stoke team littered with valuable players.
My only gripe was Clarke, for me he’s just not good enough. I thought that first time round and nothings changed my mind now.Out of a Vaughan, Garner and Clarke, Clarke would be my 3rd choice. God knows why Vaughan left for him
All eaqually ineffective without a strike partner. They have all had their best times when playing in a two up top formation.
Why all three were signed when we never play that way is baffling.[/quote]I’d disagree slightly with that – from last night’s game Clarke is very effective at winning the ball that is played out from the back.
Problem is that whilst he wins it virtually every time, he’s a “flick on” man & not a hold up person & our other attacking players are either too dumb to read that or are instructed to stay deep & wide so his efforts in winning the ball are wasted
As for Garner, from the brief bits I’ve seen of him he is utter pigswill14 February 2019 at 4:53 pm #176294I’d disagree slightly with that – from last night’s game Clarke is very effective at winning the ball that is played out from the back.
Problem is that whilst he wins it virtually every time, he’s a “flick on” man & not a hold up person & our other attacking players are either too dumb to read that or are instructed to stay deep & wide so his efforts in winning the ball are wasted
As for Garner, from the brief bits I’ve seen of him he is utter pigswillAgree. Clarke flicked on at one point and nobody was there aside from Jacobs about 10 yards back who almost got to the ball after their man fluffed his clearance.
23 February 2019 at 10:48 pm #176567jimmy I don’t get to any weekend away days any more due to working Saturday evenings but I subscribe to the Latics player channel and see games every week, there have been some really inept performances away this season but Saturday was a lesson in the john beck school of football it was truly awful and in my opinion everything I do not want to watch when I go to a match, it may have been compounded because Rotherham were the same.LMB, I’ve seen two games at home since you posted this and got to say I stand corrected. Stoke was long ball, today against the bottom side, not as much long ball but still plenty of hopeful punts up field. Cannot believe how poor we are at the moment and how quickly our home form has turned.
I’m worried, and now think we’ll go down if things don’t change. -
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