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    I know the reason was because he wanted assurances that if Wigan were relegated his pay would remain the same.At the 11th hour he was informed that the club insisted on a 25% pay cut if this should happen.Why should he sign for a team that through no fault of his were looking likely to drop and be expected to be penalized financially .If the club wanted him a reasonable request like that should have been readily accepted.He would have been an excellent acquisition for our championship charge should we have gone down.I can assure you that thes eare the facts but I am not at liberty to reveal how I know this.

    Get your head out of your arse Brownball’s..

    That is sensible business practice to ensure the long term stability of this football club.

    The alternative of course is paying Joey Barton 70k a week to play in the Championship as QPR may well be doing next season!

    OR even Hull paying Jimmy Bullard 50K a week to play in the Championship.

    WAKEY WAKEY BROWNBALL’S ITS TIME TO GET UP FOR REALITYYYYYY :woohoo:

    #83616
    MR BrownbillMR Brownbill
    Player

      I think this was a major case of false economy.He could have nicked a goal or two to keep the Prem money rolling in or worse case the goals that have us challenging for promotion next season.Either way you can see now why I am so annoyed that with all the goal-scoring issues we’ve had for the last 3 seasons when we do find someone willing to join the cause we let a brainless issue over pay cut sever the deal.I don’t think any player would have accepted that kind of request in the January window when we were in bottom 3.That’s why only monkey’s will feed on our peanuts .

      #83617
      MR BrownbillMR Brownbill
      Player

        Halford’s really is a cloth headed numb nuts.It’s not good business practice in the January window and facing relegation to be alienating potential signings with financial penalties brought on by the playing staff and management prior to his arrival.And for your information he was willing to sign for less pay than W Ham offered.You just cling on to Robbies apron strings while he leads you smiling and dancing to div 1.

        #83618
        I think this was a major case of false economy.He could have nicked a goal or two to keep the Prem money rolling in or worse case the goals that have us challenging for promotion next season.Either way you can see now why I am so annoyed that with all the goal-scoring issues we’ve had for the last 3 seasons when we do find someone willing to join the cause we let a brainless issue over pay cut sever the deal.I don’t think any player would have accepted that kind of request in the January window when we were in bottom 3.That’s why only monkey’s will feed on our peanuts .

        I can understand your frustration Brownbill, but I’m with Salford on this.

        Wigan, more than any team, cannot afford to be carrying a finance sapping wage bill into the Championship.

        Taking a risk is one thing, but let’s be honest, the chance of us being relegated is growing on a weekly basis.

        #83619
        JohnDoeTony
        Player

          Well that’s just how it is, and I think it’s the right way to run the club, survival in the prem is one thing, survival full stop is quite another.
          Mr Brownbill, can you not admit, knowing full well the financial constraints, as well as other issues attracting players to sunny Wigan, that Bobby has actually done a remarkable job in keeping us up and in sticking with his philosophy throughout?

          #83620
          MR BrownbillMR Brownbill
          Player

            No I’m sorry,on a financial basis non of us know the exact facts but on the surface we seem to have a steady ship.On a purely footballing basis he has been a train wreck .We have been butchered on too many occasions whilst maintaining this keep ball 1 up strategy.Our build up play has been pedestrian and when we have eventually got the ball in the box no one on the end of it.Remember these are his players his methods so he is responsible.A purely hypothetical question for you .Exactly 12 months from now say we are sitting 3 from the bottom of the championship and his football ideology remains the same ,would you want him out or would you still be happy with him ?

            #83621
            JohnDoeTony
            Player
              No I’m sorry,on a financial basis non of us know the exact facts but on the surface we seem to have a steady ship.On a purely footballing basis he has been a train wreck .We have been butchered on too many occasions whilst maintaining this keep ball 1 up strategy.Our build up play has been pedestrian and when we have eventually got the ball in the box no one on the end of it.Remember these are his players his methods so he is responsible.A purely hypothetical question for you .Exactly 12 months from now say we are sitting 3 from the bottom of the championship and his football ideology remains the same ,would you want him out or would you still be happy with him ?

              I think that if that was the position next season, and he had the same players he has now, that he would be failing quite badly in what he was trying to do. Whereas at the moment, he is doing what he is expected to do, and battling a relegation, with players and circumstances that don’t give him a fair start. So you can’t compare the two situations like for like, it doesn’t make sense.

              #83622
              JohnDoeTony
              Player

                Mr Brownbill, can you just answer a few things for me, honestly?

                Has Bobby got one of the most difficult jobs in football? And if not can you name a few managers that have a more difficult job?

                Do you think that even if we offered a player more money than say QPR or Fulham, that they would come to Wigan?

                If, next season, Wigan stick with the same philosophy and do well with it, will you still say its wrong to try and instill a style and mentality for the long term?

                #83624
                FlapsFlaps
                Player

                  Is this the same type of fact as the “unquestionable statistics” in the other thread, which you didn’t bother defending ?

                  You’ve given opinion, and touted it as fact. I happen to think it’s quite a reasonable request for the club to make, but it’s not fact, it’s opinion.

                  #83632
                  MR BrownbillMR Brownbill
                  Player

                    Come on then make a defence case for the football horror show that has been Robbies tenure apart from the usual we are little poor Wigan .

                    #83634
                    Come on then make a defence case for the football horror show that has been Robbies tenure apart from the usual we are little poor Wigan .

                    I’m sorry but you’re sidestepping the question. We all (lightside/darkside/energy saving lightbulb) know that this season has been poor.

                    But the question being posed is should we have signed players who may – MAY I add in capitals – have done slightly better thamn recent signings at wages which would hve given us problems if we were to be relegated.

                    Ben Haim on over £25K a week (that’s £12.5 million pa!!!) for a club now bankrupt and tied in to that contract.

                    I know certainly which side of the divide I would rather be on.

                    #83635
                    JohnDoeTony
                    Player
                      Come on then make a defence case for the football horror show that has been Robbies tenure apart from the usual we are little poor Wigan .

                      1. He hasn’t got the money to buy and pay the players he might want

                      2. The youth set up and development squad set up were abysmal, something he is keen to address

                      3. When we do unearth a gem, they are off as soon as their agent tells them they can get more money

                      4. It takes time to change the whole workings of a football club

                      5. He is relatively inexperienced and will make mistakes along the way

                      Now can you at least answer a couple of questions directed at you, because you are excellent at coming out with negative statements and moaning and whining, but seem totally unable to answer a straight question.

                      #83636
                      JohnDoeTony
                      Player

                        You might want to edit that post garswood, you could have messi for 12.5 million a year!

                        #83637
                        FlapsFlaps
                        Player

                          Your prosecution evidence doesn’t stack up, (you got your numbers wrong), so there would be an aquittal

                          but to humour you, It’s your opinion that it’s a horror show, in my opinion it’s been great.

                          Job done !(twice)

                          #83640
                          Anonymous

                            John Doe

                            according to the paper cant remember which one messi is on £27 million a year :woohoo: :ohmy:

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