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seeing as I was mentioned in the original thread I will attempt to clarify the ambiguity ! I buy a season ticket every year come what may and I am aware that our season tickets are the 2nd cheapest in the Prem and I am aware that we wont ever be European football contenders. What I will say is that for us to have only won one game at home 6 months ago, I feel that my usual just under £300 spent has not given me the sporadic pleasure that I had anticipated !!
I and many others have a different slant on this. Too true I would love us to have won more home games than we have but, my sporadic pleasure comes from watching my team compete with the best and in many occasions out play them, despite not getting the points.
Bolton and Stoke fans for starters, over the years must have walked off the Reebok and Brit made up that their teams have muscled their way to a win or draw, but witnessed them hoofing, kicking their way through the match against teams that man for man have hammered um.I’m really pleased that DW also shares the view that trying to play football the right way is the best option and has stood behind Bobby when it would have been so easy to show him the back door, whilst opening the front door to the likes of Sam Allardyce.
If Bobby manages to keep us up then for the reasons just mentioned above well bloody done that man! goodpost[/quote]Each to their opinions and that but to say that this season our home form has given you pleasure ??? I guess some people are more easily pleased than others ! :)
I can’t believe that anyone is even remotely surpised that LMB didn’t spurn the opportunity to turn a light-hearted, admitted-by-the-author flawed analysis into yet another dreary anti-Martinez rant. Tedious beyond belief, now.
I can’t believe that anyone is even remotely surpised that LMB didn’t spurn the opportunity to turn a light-hearted, admitted-by-the-author flawed analysis into yet another dreary anti-Martinez rant. Tedious beyond belief, now.What ya having for Dinner Griff ? I have just had my breakfast !! Going to work now ( Yawn stretch ! ) I have got my shorts on today ! ;)
I can’t believe that anyone is even remotely surpised that LMB didn’t spurn the opportunity to turn a light-hearted, admitted-by-the-author flawed analysis into yet another dreary anti-Martinez rant. Tedious beyond belief, now.
What ya having for Dinner Griff ? I have just had my breakfast !! Going to work now ( Yawn stretch ! ) I have got my shorts on today ! ;)[/quote]
Other than having a cheekly beer for dinner (or lunch, as we call it) I have no idea what I’ll be eating
His rigid set up away from home bored the hell out of me.
Like the 5-0 away at hull, or when we outplayed liverpool at anfield, only for the referee to get them back in the game(the best display EVER by a wigan athletic side), even the draws away at liverpool and chelsea in bruces first season.
I agree you cant compare any of that boring stuff with the excitement of the 9-1 at spurs or 8-0 at chelsea or the 5-0 x 2 at man u, even the 4-1 against second division blackpool, or the draw scraped at 3rd division notts county, not to mention the edge of seat display we produced at 4th division swindon town, by heck the stewards were frantic on those occasions trying to get us to sit down and calm our wanton enthusiasm.[/quote]
Maybe its a personal opinion here but this moment in football that Bobs boring team gave us, is the one I will never forget:
http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,26691,16471_6934661,00.html
Dont forget your hat fil (that fetching Westside Story one will work a treat around the streets of Leyland) – suns out dont want you getting sun stroke so close to our game tomorrow
Salford must have a lot of free time at the office – as long as he isn’t getting into any arguments about air conditioning or whether they can have the window open…. ;)
I can’t believe that anyone is even remotely surpised that LMB didn’t spurn the opportunity to turn a light-hearted, admitted-by-the-author flawed analysis into yet another dreary anti-Martinez rant. Tedious beyond belief, now.you braindead moron and that is an insult of the highest order
read any of the previous posts on this thread and show me where i have made any anti martinez rant.
The whole topic is a flawed attempt to indicate that player profits and value was better under martinez than previous incumbents, i will even paste the opening paragraph:-
” After debating some of Bruce’s signings versus Martinez signings and Filmoss’s bizarre statement that he expects more for his £295 season ticket it got me thinking who out of our few premier league managers have delivered the best value for money in terms of players signed ”
The data went on to show that overall martinez had made more year on year and total profit than his predecessors, which i offered a counter argument against because it just isnt true which ever way the figures are massaged.
The only reference i have made to martinez dierctly was actually a compliment – and again i will paste it for your benefit:-“From where I see it martinez is being credited with over 31 million pounds (valencia, cattermole, nzogbia) that he is not entitled to although in nzogbia’s case, playing under martinez suited him and added value to his net worth this is something that must also be included in any comparisons. ”
The only person making “anti” anyone “rants” is is you and predictably they are aimed once again in my direction with all the malice you can muster, i suggest you actually start to read what is going on before leting your pre determined opinion get in the way of the facts and that is the real tedium you mentioned.
I can’t believe that anyone is even remotely surpised that LMB didn’t spurn the opportunity to turn a light-hearted, admitted-by-the-author flawed analysis into yet another dreary anti-Martinez rant. Tedious beyond belief, now.
you braindead moron and that is an insult of the highest order
read any of the previous posts on this thread and show me where i have made any anti martinez rant.
The whole topic is a flawed attempt to indicate that player profits and value was better under martinez than previous incumbents, i will even paste the opening paragraph:-
” After debating some of Bruce’s signings versus Martinez signings and Filmoss’s bizarre statement that he expects more for his £295 season ticket it got me thinking who out of our few premier league managers have delivered the best value for money in terms of players signed ”
The data went on to show that overall martinez had made more year on year and total profit than his predecessors, which i offered a counter argument against because it just isnt true which ever way the figures are massaged.
The only reference i have made to martinez dierctly was actually a compliment – and again i will paste it for your benefit:-“From where I see it martinez is being credited with over 31 million pounds (valencia, cattermole, nzogbia) that he is not entitled to although in nzogbia’s case, playing under martinez suited him and added value to his net worth this is something that must also be included in any comparisons. ”
The only person making “anti” anyone “rants” is is you and predictably they are aimed once again in my direction with all the malice you can muster, i suggest you actually start to read what is going on before leting your pre determined opinion get in the way of the facts and that is the real tedium you mentioned.[/quote]
I suggest you go for a walk get some fresh air and come back and re-read the below extract.
“the best value for money in terms of players signed”
At what point does that make any reference to any players being sold and getting credit for the profit made?
Its all about how much in transfer fee’s have been spent.
Considering Bruce spent an average of 10 Million plus per season more than Martinez if you were to apply that to Martinez’s budget for 2 seasons you could Sign defoe out of the first £10 Million and then pay Defoe £48,076.92 per week for 4 years out of the next years £10million extra in the budget.
Back to the original point who is the best value for money?
Quite clearly Martinez over Bruce as he is in his 3rd season in the premier league having spent on average of half of what bruce did in a season ( that completely excludes transfer funds gained! )
Should we pull Bruce’s spending figures in from his recent Sunderland stint to back up my comment?
you braindead moron and that is an insult of the highest orderReally? I’ve had much, much worse insults from much more intelligent people than you, to be fair.
Thanks though, you’ve put a smile on my face before I embark on the afternoon’s endeavours.
You seriously expect me to go back and read stuff you have written that, as you so astutely guessed, I hadn’t even read properly in the first place??
Yeah, right
you braindead moron and that is an insult of the highest order
Really? I’ve had much, much worse insults from much more intelligent people than you, to be fair.
Thanks though, you’ve put a smile on my face before I embark on the afternoon’s endeavours.
You seriously expect me to go back and read stuff you have written that, as you so astutely guessed, I hadn’t even read properly in the first place??
Yeah, right[/quote]
you really are a pompous arrogant prick aren’t you
“Lo que un hombre educado, informado e ingenioso” yeah in your own fucking mind.
you braindead moron and that is an insult of the highest order
Really? I’ve had much, much worse insults from much more intelligent people than you, to be fair.
Thanks though, you’ve put a smile on my face before I embark on the afternoon’s endeavours.
You seriously expect me to go back and read stuff you have written that, as you so astutely guessed, I hadn’t even read properly in the first place??
Yeah, right[/quote]
you really are a pompous arrogant prick aren’t you
“Lo que un hombre educado, informado e ingenioso” yeah in your own fucking mind.[/quote]
I have a whole department looking over my shoulder at my screen and laughing at you right now.
One wants to know if you’re in my son’s class at school
you braindead moron and that is an insult of the highest order
Really? I’ve had much, much worse insults from much more intelligent people than you, to be fair.
Thanks though, you’ve put a smile on my face before I embark on the afternoon’s endeavours.
You seriously expect me to go back and read stuff you have written that, as you so astutely guessed, I hadn’t even read properly in the first place??
Yeah, right[/quote]
you really are a pompous arrogant prick aren’t you
“Lo que un hombre educado, informado e ingenioso” yeah in your own fucking mind.[/quote]
I have a whole department looking over my shoulder at my screen and laughing at you right now.
One wants to know if you’re in my son’s class at school[/quote]
Tomato soup anyone? :huh:
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!Salford must have a lot of free time at the office – as long as he isn’t getting into any arguments about air conditioning or whether they can have the window open…. ;)Guy Browning offers 20 top tips for surviving life in the workplace…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2006/oct/18/workandcareers.healthandwellbeing
We all have our own ways of getting through our day…
Educating the ignorant is one of mine :)
Gloryhunter!!!!!!
Why don’t you support United
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