Well said that man!

:D

………….and it’s this kind of response, sir, that keeps me sane and makes me chuckle.

Life’s too short ;)

Is it Old Trafford or The DW next Saturday Jimmy????

Forgot about Eddie the Eagle. Its proper funny when you start thinking of the characters. I always remember that fella from Springfield with a proper scouse perm and a tache with his peroxide glam wife with the big teeth. Pure quality! Beany made the odd trip then but didnt do the longer ones much. Anyone remember them two mad fellas from Chorley who used to turn up and make up proper mad songs? Was watching a funny video of Lincoln away the other night when Suddy and around 8 Goons invaded the pitch when Andy Lyons scored. You just never get such crap drama now eh?

:D

It would appear, also, that there is a ‘crise de confiance’; there are only a couple of comments about the article that can be construed as a ‘disagreement of opinion’ yet it would appear that a ‘slurry of lies’ ensued.

As for me, I prefer to critique what I read (good or bad), if the author truely felt the need to berate those who he felt ‘dissed’ him then he shouldn’t have written the article. Write what you think, write with conviction, write with passion….but don’t whinge when someone disagrees with you. They are not ‘faceless cyber keyboard warriors’ they are the audience and if they want to throw tomatos then so be it.

As I said earlier, the article left itself open – as a ‘writer’ yourself you understand the pitfalls of verbosity, maybe a more succinct approach would have had more impact.

Personally, I’ve nothing against the intention of the article, it was the ‘lecturing’ I found distasteful – if we believed everyone who has ever written anything about the clubs’ history and it’s support then it began in the ‘Garden of Eden’ with a group of only 50 supporters…….oh and as early as the mid 70’s. :roll: I’m a little older than the author and believe me no one has a monopoly on who was the best, biggest, hardest, most loyal (away or home) supporter – they’ve come and gone….

………..as I said, and you alluded to earlier, it’s the JCL’s that frighten the Gerontophobics. We live in a different age, with different values…a technological age where the kids want everything NOW – even my boys get on my p@ps (sometimes) with their attitude, however, I move with them….I understand them…..I encourage them (men in their own right) and, as with any new fans (whinging or not), I will support and mentor them to continue to follow the club that I grew up with – for without them (the JCL’s) we have no future. I will not accept any self righteous epitaph – “Last of The Latics Supporters – God Rest his soul”.

Oh……it’s rude to assume (not you griff) that those who write on here do not know who ‘others’ are….. tut tut.

I’m a football fanzine editor not the leader of the Third Reich :?

You seem to have a very unhealthy obsession with the Mudhuts website, and I would love to defend whatever it is you seem to be accusing individuals on there of doing but to be perfectly honest I barely understand a word of it

You also seem to have appointed yourself some kind of official leader of this site and protector of the peace of the good ship Cockney Latic against the evil Mudhuts

This is strange as I was a founder member of this site, edited 46 issues of the Cockney Latic fanzine over 6 years, wrote dozens of pieces for the website and organised countless social events.

In all that time, no MickyC ever wrote a page for the fanzine, never contributed a front page story, never introduced himself at any of our Cockney Latic charity or social events and indeed rarely used the message board at all in the six or so years that I was a moderator of it. I very much doubt John or Jay know you either but maybe I’d better ask seeing as you are taking such a deep and unhealthy interest in me :?

And as for me, well back in the real world – I’ve made lifelong friends through my association with Cockney Latic and it’s good to see that people on here still stick up for me even though I’ve not been around for a while. The reason being that they know me and have met me, they are not sat on internet message boards in the early hours dreaming up, elaborately concocted conspiracy theories while full of ale.

I don’t care if someone has been watching Latics for 2 games or 2,000 games, the whole premise of the article was that we are struggling and instead of getting behind the team, around 1 in 3 of the fans we have picked up since our elevation to the Premier League have deserted the club because we are struggling in the lower reaches of the table.

My problem is with the ones who have stopped going not the ones who do go, and I don’t care how long they have been going.

Yes it did descend into a rant but it was from the heart, a call to arms, for those we have left to stick together.

I’m sorry you don’t agree with everything I write but if we all agreed life would be boring.

I do not preach I write, I don’t mind having my writing dissected, as you say

I’ve dedicated my life to writing about Latics: 2 books, 75 fanzine issues, contributing to many before that in the guise of the Latic Fanatic and the old Cockney Latic. I wrote for the programme for 2 years, contribute to endless newspapers, magazines, radio etc and I never take a penny because I love the club and I love writing about it. I must spend 30+ hours a month writing about Latics (I hope the wife doesn’t read this)

If you have a problem with other individuals on the Mudhuts/Mudhutter site why not take it up with them? They’re all big boys as I’m sure you are too.

To state we are all as one and of the same opinion is surely you doing the exact same form of stereotyping you have accused Mudhuts of doing?

Come on, Micky, give it up pal. I’ve not got all day to play games as I have to do a press release for another charity event but I’m out of my ‘ivory tower’ so do your worst. I’m also (from my professional background) working on a paer which will contain at least 50 ideas on how we can boost crowds at the DW which I will be putting in forward of the new CEO at some point.

I do this and give up time and effort for free because I care about the club not driven by some hidden agenda

If there is a hidden agenda, perhaps you’d like to tell me what that is, because I certainly don’t know?

Why not tell us all (in plain English not riddles if that’s possible) what your problem is with me?

As you say, life’s too short to hold grudges so feel free to be as honest as you like with me

Who are you trying to kid Jimmy?
You’ve only made 4 posts, how can you be this ‘massive’ fan you are trying to make out you are?

Only ever see you on the Bridge, have you ever been on the ground and watched a match?

P.S. Keep up the good work pal, some of us appreciate what you do.

Well that’s me told then…… :roll:

Jimmy, you certainly do have your knickers in a twist about nothing really. How on earth do you deduce that I have “a very unhealthy obsession with the Mudhuts website” as it’s one of the sites I purposefully avoid – there is nothing on there of interest to me (not even a lurk) and this…… how can I describe it?……… declaration of yours that you seem to think that I am some kind of self appointed leader of this site and protector blah blah……

I think that there are several others on here who contribute so much, not only on the forums, but also behind the scenes that would feel a little put out by that – my ‘massive’ 300 odd forum posts have oviously made an impact – more so than say the two and half thousand Griff has posted or the others who have posted more than a thousand – further…… I rate Dave’s input to this board as more important (at least his writings are entertaining) than anything I have ever written here.

……and this little nugget – “I’d better ask as you are taking such a deep and unhealthy interest in me” – beggars belief. This is (only) the second time you have had to respond to something I’ve ever written. The first time you had cause to write (pretty much the same diatribe actually) was when you thought I was having a go when I used to write on the LittleWigan site – you even had a go at Adam thinking that he had condoned my views………that my friend was four years ago(ish); and now you take exception again and feel the need to repeat all your wonderfullness to everyone all over again – hardly me being obsessed by you, your site, your mates, your opinions or your dedication to the cause – quite honestly I don’t give a shiney sh !te – it’s your life.

Look, let me just recap for you.

You write article
Article is linked on this site for anyone to read (if they want to)
Some like……others don’t
(even you admitted that it descended into a rant)
It’s critiqued
You object
Get over yourself fella

………….and get over the delusion that you think that I have a problem with you (two posts over a four year period is hardly stalking material) as I don’t have a problem from anyone from your site – yes you are right we are all big boys.

Now don’t be shy…..tell us all a little more about these online links on the 70’s and Jim Fleming et al – I could do with brushing up on the good ‘ol days. I’m sure, after all you have done for CL in the past, that the current management wouldn’t mind a spot of advertising – after all it’s all in the same common cause we all share so passionately.

Moving on now…….