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Surprise, surprise, I disagree with that bit!!
If he was capable of playing for a “better” side then he would be doing. He’s not a spring chicken & he’s not exactly unknown if managers of better sides thought he was capable of doing what you say then they’d have signed him in my opinion
I do think he’s a useful squad player for Latics to have & I do think he gets unwarranted stick off some but that’s about it[/quote]

No offence Tylders but I would recommend your opinion on Gomez is taken with a pinch of salt as you would have considered him a winger until late last season ;)[/quote]

Bobby did used to play him primarily on the right hand side role yes & he was awful. Is much better in a more central role as the right/or left sided attacking midfielder or “in the hole”
So there!! :P

I’ll find fault with it, Phil. :)

Miyaichi plays a completely different role and position to Watson and as for Fyvie, unless you’ve seen him playing against a Leyland Window Cleaners Select XI, then I have no idea how you know he’s a better player than Watson. ;)

And before I get accused of another Roberto love-in, please see my earlier post for evidence that I actually agree that Watson isn’t very good – certainly not at the momnent and not in the role he is currently being asked to play.[/quote]

No I haven’t seen FF play but I have it on very good authority ( Aberdeen Fan ) that he is a very good player when fit. Now with Watson in a very bad vein of form and the fact that he didn’t really figure in the great escape last season then why include him now ? If the other options are no longer here then surely RM should have bought in replacements ! At the moment Watson offers nothing to the side and hasn’t done many times before, I do not understand why RM perseveres with him ? I just hope that RM’s obstinate side doesn’t come to the fore again ( Not opening the 4-5-1 can of worms again ! ) B)

To be fair, there’s a world of difference between being a good player in the championship & being a good player in the premier league as we’ve seen ourselves. Latics had players who were great at that level De Vos, Breckin, Eaden (I know not everyone will agree with me on that last one but I always rated him) but who you could tell would struggle in the top flight – Jewell thought that & jettisoned them.
I never saw Gomez play at that level but I did read some reviews of him that made me wary of whether he’d be a success for us.
Good players can adapt & Gomez has some flaws in his game that means he can’t
You quite rightly point out that since starting he’s hardly featured & that’s coz he’s not good enough to command a regular starting place at this level & other managers know that. If he went to say United in this league he’d still get closed down just as quick & have to deal with the pace of the game just like he does at Latics
You say he’d do well in the Spanish league. Last time I looked Espanyol were in the Spanish league & they didn’t want him ;)

So RM fcuked up buying him then ? If Watson was not used hardly if at all in the great escape of last season then I am baffled as to why he is used now, especially with the evidence thus far that he is way below the standard of the Prem ![/quote]

Calm down dear!!

Fyvie is deffo one for the future I dont think anyone expected him to feature much this season…

Roberto is not exactly persisting with Watson its a case of McArthur isn’t fit and Watson is next in line and rightly so!

I don’t think Jones is anywhere near as good as Watson and they imo are the only two players we have capable of playing that role.

So RM fcuked up buying him then ? If Watson was not used hardly if at all in the great escape of last season then I am baffled as to why he is used now, especially with the evidence thus far that he is way below the standard of the Prem ![/quote]

Phil, you have a rather simplistic view about how football works.

Fyvie is nought but a kid, bought cheaply for the future, no matter what RM might say publicly to butter him up. It’s how we have to operate in our situation. I’m not sure how you can f*** up when you’re only spending half a million quid.

Watson didn’t get in the team at the end of last season because the first XI was busy beating all and sundry and not getting injured. Plenty others didn’t get in it either, ie Diame, Rodallega, Stam.

I presume that the ony reason Watson played on Saturday was because McArthur wasn’t fit (I hope so anyway) and Watson was the best available to slot in to that position.

Miyachi and McMananam are arguably better players than Watson – but not as sitting, holding midfielders.

So RM fcuked up buying him then ? If Watson was not used hardly if at all in the great escape of last season then I am baffled as to why he is used now, especially with the evidence thus far that he is way below the standard of the Prem ![/quote]

Phil, you have a rather simplistic view about how football works.

Fyvie is nought but a kid, bought cheaply for the future, no matter what RM might say publicly to butter him up. It’s how we have to operate in our situation. I’m not sure how you can f*** up when you’re only spending half a million quid.

Watson didn’t get in the team at the end of last season because the first XI was busy beating all and sundry and not getting injured. Plenty others didn’t get in it either, ie Diame, Rodallega, Stam.

I presume that the ony reason Watson played on Saturday was because McArthur wasn’t fit (I hope so anyway) and Watson was the best available to slot in to that position.

Miyachi and McMananam are arguably better players than Watson – but not as sitting, holding midfielders.[/quote]

I hope filly finally gets the point ffs

So RM fcuked up buying him then ? If Watson was not used hardly if at all in the great escape of last season then I am baffled as to why he is used now, especially with the evidence thus far that he is way below the standard of the Prem ![/quote]

Phil, you have a rather simplistic view about how football works.

Fyvie is nought but a kid, bought cheaply for the future, no matter what RM might say publicly to butter him up. It’s how we have to operate in our situation. I’m not sure how you can f*** up when you’re only spending half a million quid.

Watson didn’t get in the team at the end of last season because the first XI was busy beating all and sundry and not getting injured. Plenty others didn’t get in it either, ie Diame, Rodallega, Stam.

I presume that the ony reason Watson played on Saturday was because McArthur wasn’t fit (I hope so anyway) and Watson was the best available to slot in to that position.

Miyachi and McMananam are arguably better players than Watson – but not as sitting, holding midfielders.[/quote]

I hope filly finally gets the point ffs[/quote]

Yes I do get the point….Watson is not good enough, simple as ! Cant take corners, cant take free kicks and has a very negative effect on the midfield as a whole by constantly slowing down, sometimes even halting passages of play. He can find the odd good ball but surely that is down to the law of averages. As for having a simplistic view on the game Griff, yes I guess I do but who wants to get bogged down with the real workings of a club. Why not as many terrace fans do not just say what you see and from what I have seen of watson, well ….!! We did ok against West Ham the other night without Watson did we not !! Whatever I say certain people on the wind up will beg to differ but if we did a poll on Watson I think the majority would be with me !