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9 April 2015 at 11:29 pm #141071
Speaking of Boselli, he’s on fire playing in the Mexican league. :woohoo:
36 goals in 64 games for Leon!!!.
OK the quality of football may not be that good, but you can certainly say that the quality of football in the Championship is totally shat compared to the EPL. :ohmy:From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!9 April 2015 at 11:42 pm #141073That’s the point perhaps, JR.
We can say such-and-such a league is better or worse, but if a striker has a ball at his feet with a target to aim at, no matter whether Champions League Final or Sunday League he should be able to shoot and hit the target. If there is a top-class goalkeeper or defence who clear it then that’s what makes the difference.
What is inexcusable, which is what we have, is strikers who don’t shoot for goal, and who can’t hit the target. Take the shot, hit the target, and you will score goals.
10 April 2015 at 12:49 am #141074Where’s all this Eric Black bashing coming from?He only came back to the club in July and since Mackay was appointed, he’s been virtually invisible on matchdays.
He was highly thought of when Bruce was our manager, and he’s a well-respected coach.
Are people confusing him with David Kerslake – who was always prominent in the technical area on matchdays? Black was the one sitting down, who Mackay never consulted.
Barrow knocking I can understand (although he was rated by Martinez), but not Black.
Standish, I cannot get my head round why Eric Black seems to have gone backward with his career. I remember him being at Cov and the general census was that he was on his way to the top. Yet another reputation in tatters after coming here it appears. To be honest I thought he would someday manage us but for whatever the reason ( probably Barrow) he has not stepped up has he?.
10 April 2015 at 2:31 am #141075Speaking of Boselli, he’s on fire playing in the Mexican league. :woohoo:36 goals in 64 games for Leon!!!.
OK the quality of football may not be that good, but you can certainly say that the quality of football in the Championship is totally shat compared to the EPL. :ohmy:The quality of football is good, but the style is completely different.
Also living in Mexico is more similar to Argentina. People do sometimes forgot that if a player is settled off the pitch their performance on it generally improves.10 April 2015 at 11:12 am #141077I’ll give McKay his due though, he did try quite a few formations.
He did but with the wrong players, Clarke is not good enough it’s as simple as that. And for the people who said Reira, Delort and McKay aren’t good enough can you please tell me how you came to the decision ? purely because the manager didn’t play them ?. Well looking on MacKays performances he might have just got that one wrong as well[/quote]
I’ve seen Riera and Delort play, and in my opinion, Delort was not good enough. Two manager also felt the same.I thought Riera showed more promise.
McKay – I’ve not seen enough of him to decide either way.
And Clarke isn’t good enough in my opinion.[/quote]
The thing with McKay he has brought Kim and McGuire in who for me are our best players. Ojo looks ok but a bit light weight.
10 April 2015 at 12:06 pm #141078I have seen McKay for a full 60 minutes in a Development game – so not very high level. Reminded me of Boselli.Kept running into space, but “non-productive” space, if you know what I mean, so the ball didn’t come to him. Didn’t do enough in my eyes on his own to make things happen. Maybe a poacher if others do the work, but at Championship level need to create more himself.
Just one game, to be fair, and what we’ve got isn’t working, but as I keep saying – many are asking why he isn’t playing as though he is the answer to all our problems.
He isn’t. I hope he can become that though. Maybe with the correct support around him.
He is the answer to most problems, as is Don Cowie.
10 April 2015 at 1:03 pm #141079Where’s all this Eric Black bashing coming from?
He only came back to the club in July and since Mackay was appointed, he’s been virtually invisible on matchdays.
He was highly thought of when Bruce was our manager, and he’s a well-respected coach.
Are people confusing him with David Kerslake – who was always prominent in the technical area on matchdays? Black was the one sitting down, who Mackay never consulted.
Barrow knocking I can understand (although he was rated by Martinez), but not Black.
Standish, I cannot get my head round why Eric Black seems to have gone backward with his career. I remember him being at Cov and the general census was that he was on his way to the top. Yet another reputation in tatters after coming here it appears. To be honest I thought he would someday manage us but for whatever the reason ( probably Barrow) he has not stepped up has he?.[/quote]
I think Eric Black is a very good example of good coach but poor manager. Kenny Swain is of course the major example – a very good coach (as is seen by his England Youth role) but an awful manager. The roles are very different.
Black was only manager at Coventry from December to May. Alongside a manager who seemed to know what he was doing – Bruce – Black flourished, but on his own maybe not so good.
Hopefully he will provide great support to Caldwell.
10 April 2015 at 1:40 pm #141081Where’s all this Eric Black bashing coming from?
He only came back to the club in July and since Mackay was appointed, he’s been virtually invisible on matchdays.
He was highly thought of when Bruce was our manager, and he’s a well-respected coach.
Are people confusing him with David Kerslake – who was always prominent in the technical area on matchdays? Black was the one sitting down, who Mackay never consulted.
Barrow knocking I can understand (although he was rated by Martinez), but not Black.
Standish, I cannot get my head round why Eric Black seems to have gone backward with his career. I remember him being at Cov and the general census was that he was on his way to the top. Yet another reputation in tatters after coming here it appears. To be honest I thought he would someday manage us but for whatever the reason ( probably Barrow) he has not stepped up has he?.[/quote]
I think Eric Black is a very good example of good coach but poor manager. Kenny Swain is of course the major example – a very good coach (as is seen by his England Youth role) but an awful manager. The roles are very different.
Black was only manager at Coventry from December to May. Alongside a manager who seemed to know what he was doing – Bruce – Black flourished, but on his own maybe not so good.
Hopefully he will provide great support to Caldwell.[/quote]
That’s a fair observation Garswood, and to put the record straight (SW), for me, I wasn’t having a go or ‘bashing’ Black I was merely pointing out that the support role that these two have had over the previous years hasn’t worked and it was time to see a whole change in management personnel. There is a lot to be said about managers who, when appointed, want to bring in their own staff, as there is already an understanding of methodology, clear lines of communication, training etc and I don’t think that keeping these two on the pay roll has helped any of the previous 3 managers, whatever anyone thinks of their (managers) competencies. I think it was a decision based on finance (possibly to offset costs of the appointments) and, dare I say, misplaced loyalty. Whatever the reasons behind all of this over the years (which we will never know about for sure) it has been a factor in where we now find ourselves, in my opinion of course.
10 April 2015 at 2:08 pm #141083That’s a fair observation Garswood, and to put the record straight (SW), for me, I wasn’t having a go or ‘bashing’ Black I was merely pointing out that the support role that these two have had over the previous years hasn’t worked and it was time to see a whole change in management personnel. There is a lot to be said about managers who, when appointed, want to bring in their own staff, as there is already an understanding of methodology, clear lines of communication, training etc and I don’t think that keeping these two on the pay roll has helped any of the previous 3 managers, whatever anyone thinks of their (managers) competencies. I think it was a decision based on finance (possibly to offset costs of the appointments) and, dare I say, misplaced loyalty. Whatever the reasons behind all of this over the years (which we will never know about for sure) it has been a factor in where we now find ourselves, in my opinion of course.My comment wasn’t really aimed at anyone in particular, it just that Black’s name seems to have cropped up time and time again when people are criticising or questioning the abilities of the backroom staff.
As I said earlier, I can understand people having a pop at Barrow* but I can’t really see what Black’s done wrong. I think in this case however, both Black and Barrow’s influence should help Caldwell as he’s new and doesn’t have any assistants to bring in with him into the job.
I’m actually looking forward to see how Caldwell does. He’s played under some good managers who like to play football rather than hoofing it upfield aimlessly.
10 April 2015 at 3:04 pm #141085That’s a fair observation Garswood, and to put the record straight (SW), for me, I wasn’t having a go or ‘bashing’ Black I was merely pointing out that the support role that these two have had over the previous years hasn’t worked and it was time to see a whole change in management personnel. There is a lot to be said about managers who, when appointed, want to bring in their own staff, as there is already an understanding of methodology, clear lines of communication, training etc and I don’t think that keeping these two on the pay roll has helped any of the previous 3 managers, whatever anyone thinks of their (managers) competencies. I think it was a decision based on finance (possibly to offset costs of the appointments) and, dare I say, misplaced loyalty. Whatever the reasons behind all of this over the years (which we will never know about for sure) it has been a factor in where we now find ourselves, in my opinion of course.
My comment wasn’t really aimed at anyone in particular, it just that Black’s name seems to have cropped up time and time again when people are criticising or questioning the abilities of the backroom staff.
As I said earlier, I can understand people having a pop at Barrow* but I can’t really see what Black’s done wrong. I think in this case however, both Black and Barrow’s influence should help Caldwell as he’s new and doesn’t have any assistants to bring in with him into the job.
I’m actually looking forward to see how Caldwell does. He’s played under some good managers who like to play football rather than hoofing it upfield aimlessly.[/quote]
Jonny, your last line is quite ironic! ha ha ha ;)
10 April 2015 at 3:09 pm #141086That’s a fair observation Garswood, and to put the record straight (SW), for me, I wasn’t having a go or ‘bashing’ Black I was merely pointing out that the support role that these two have had over the previous years hasn’t worked and it was time to see a whole change in management personnel. There is a lot to be said about managers who, when appointed, want to bring in their own staff, as there is already an understanding of methodology, clear lines of communication, training etc and I don’t think that keeping these two on the pay roll has helped any of the previous 3 managers, whatever anyone thinks of their (managers) competencies. I think it was a decision based on finance (possibly to offset costs of the appointments) and, dare I say, misplaced loyalty. Whatever the reasons behind all of this over the years (which we will never know about for sure) it has been a factor in where we now find ourselves, in my opinion of course.
My comment wasn’t really aimed at anyone in particular, it just that Black’s name seems to have cropped up time and time again when people are criticising or questioning the abilities of the backroom staff.
As I said earlier, I can understand people having a pop at Barrow* but I can’t really see what Black’s done wrong. I think in this case however, both Black and Barrow’s influence should help Caldwell as he’s new and doesn’t have any assistants to bring in with him into the job.
I’m actually looking forward to see how Caldwell does. He’s played under some good managers who like to play football rather than hoofing it upfield aimlessly.[/quote]
Jonny, your last line is quite ironic! ha ha ha ;)[/quote]
Eh? You’ll have to expain as I haven’t a clue what you’re on about!10 April 2015 at 3:36 pm #141087That’s a fair observation Garswood, and to put the record straight (SW), for me, I wasn’t having a go or ‘bashing’ Black I was merely pointing out that the support role that these two have had over the previous years hasn’t worked and it was time to see a whole change in management personnel. There is a lot to be said about managers who, when appointed, want to bring in their own staff, as there is already an understanding of methodology, clear lines of communication, training etc and I don’t think that keeping these two on the pay roll has helped any of the previous 3 managers, whatever anyone thinks of their (managers) competencies. I think it was a decision based on finance (possibly to offset costs of the appointments) and, dare I say, misplaced loyalty. Whatever the reasons behind all of this over the years (which we will never know about for sure) it has been a factor in where we now find ourselves, in my opinion of course.
My comment wasn’t really aimed at anyone in particular, it just that Black’s name seems to have cropped up time and time again when people are criticising or questioning the abilities of the backroom staff.
As I said earlier, I can understand people having a pop at Barrow* but I can’t really see what Black’s done wrong. I think in this case however, both Black and Barrow’s influence should help Caldwell as he’s new and doesn’t have any assistants to bring in with him into the job.
I’m actually looking forward to see how Caldwell does. He’s played under some good managers who like to play football rather than hoofing it upfield aimlessly.[/quote]
Jonny, your last line is quite ironic! ha ha ha ;)[/quote]
Eh? You’ll have to expain as I haven’t a clue what you’re on about![/quote]Caldwell used to regularly hoof the ball upfield usually straight into the West Stand!
10 April 2015 at 4:03 pm #141089That’s a fair observation Garswood, and to put the record straight (SW), for me, I wasn’t having a go or ‘bashing’ Black I was merely pointing out that the support role that these two have had over the previous years hasn’t worked and it was time to see a whole change in management personnel. There is a lot to be said about managers who, when appointed, want to bring in their own staff, as there is already an understanding of methodology, clear lines of communication, training etc and I don’t think that keeping these two on the pay roll has helped any of the previous 3 managers, whatever anyone thinks of their (managers) competencies. I think it was a decision based on finance (possibly to offset costs of the appointments) and, dare I say, misplaced loyalty. Whatever the reasons behind all of this over the years (which we will never know about for sure) it has been a factor in where we now find ourselves, in my opinion of course.
My comment wasn’t really aimed at anyone in particular, it just that Black’s name seems to have cropped up time and time again when people are criticising or questioning the abilities of the backroom staff.
As I said earlier, I can understand people having a pop at Barrow* but I can’t really see what Black’s done wrong. I think in this case however, both Black and Barrow’s influence should help Caldwell as he’s new and doesn’t have any assistants to bring in with him into the job.
I’m actually looking forward to see how Caldwell does. He’s played under some good managers who like to play football rather than hoofing it upfield aimlessly.[/quote]
Jonny, your last line is quite ironic! ha ha ha ;)[/quote]
Eh? You’ll have to expain as I haven’t a clue what you’re on about![/quote]Caldwell used to regularly hoof the ball upfield usually straight into the West Stand![/quote]
But that’s different. They were his attempts at a diagonal ball, and were down to poor execution rather than an instruction to lump it as high and as far forwards as you can – which seems to have been the norm since relegation.He also used to hit some pretty decent diagonal balls as far as I can remember.
10 April 2015 at 11:10 pm #141093Fingers crossed Caldwell does a top job.Wouldnot like to see Him treated has cannon fodder,Some are thinking its just a easy way of getting someone of the wage bill.Come on G.C Hit em for six fella. ;)
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