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David Moyes had little experience of European competition and rotating his squad.
Neither Brendan Rogers or Roberto has yet gained this experience. And the lack of European games has been a great help to both this season.
Even our own Uwe Rosler has more experience of rotation. So I’m saying not yet for Roberto.
Out of serious interest does anyone believe he could do a job at MUFC, or is it a step too far at this moment in time.I’m sure he does !! :)
I wonder if after this game, like at Everton last season, Roberto turned to Graeme Jones in the dressing room and once again said “We’ll that’s the best job interview we could have had” ??? ;)If Roberto’s move to Everton was planned as early as that, then why should Coyle’s appointment have been a rush job?
Thanks really to the shite Judas Bob left us in when he jumped ship! Coyle was a rush job brought in to bring players in that could work in the Championship. The slow start was down to uMartinez not Coyle.Granted Coyle wasnt up to the job and Uwe has done great to pick up the pieces but the slow start was down many factors other than Coyle and one big contributing factor was Roberto Martinez.I think the Stones business might give us a clue as to RM’s intentions even that far back ! One minute he is signing for us and then at the eleventh hour he joins Everton ! just sayin !
Yes, it’s strange that Stones preferred a successful Premier League club to an impoverished one fighting relegation.
Moyes was more comfortable with players from modest backgrounds – Jagielka and Baines for example. He didn’t really go in for European and South American superstars – which was part of the problem when he went to United.
Yes, it’s strange that Stones preferred a successful Premier League club to an impoverished one fighting relegation.Moyes was more comfortable with players from modest backgrounds – Jagielka and Baines for example. He didn’t really go in for European and South American superstars – which was part of the problem when he went to United.
Define success ! ;)
Everton hold the record for the most seasons played in England’s top tier (Division One and Premier League).
19 years without any silverware isn’t really success in my book ! Maintaining their place in the top flight with all the money that goes with it these days yet nothing really to show for it spells mediocrity and not success ! The league and Champions league is way beyond them money wise but with the big clubs concentrating on the aforementioned ‘Holy Grails’ surely they have the resources to at least win one of the other cups available ! You could see the reaction of the Arsenal players and fans after beating us what winning ( Or in this case the chance of winning greatly increased ) some silverware really does mean to them and they have only gone 9 years without !
Thanks really to the shite Judas Bob left us in when he jumped ship! Coyle was a rush job brought in to bring players in that could work in the Championship. The slow start was down to uMartinez not Coyle.Granted Coyle wasnt up to the job and Uwe has done great to pick up the pieces but the slow start was down many factors other than Coyle and one big contributing factor was Roberto Martinez.
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I’m now convined that, as Filmoss said a few days ago, Donny’s Page is just a wind-up merchant. No-one can be that deluded.
Thanks really to the shite Judas Bob left us in when he jumped ship! Coyle was a rush job brought in to bring players in that could work in the Championship. The slow start was down to uMartinez not Coyle.Granted Coyle wasnt up to the job and Uwe has done great to pick up the pieces but the slow start was down many factors other than Coyle and one big contributing factor was Roberto Martinez.
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I’m now convinced that, as Filmoss said a few days ago, Donny’s Page is just a wind-up merchant. No-one can be that deluded.
19 years without any silverware isn’t really success in my book ! Maintaining their place in the top flight with all the money that goes with it these days yet nothing really to show for it spells mediocrity and not success !For most teams in the Premier League, survival is success. It’s been even worse than usual this season – eleven teams have been involved in the battle against relegation.
Most of them have devoted their resources to survival. Hull, usually playing attacking football with a strong team and with the help of a kind draw, have reached the Cup Final. The best that the others can hope for is tenth place in the league.
There is a group of three teams – Manchester United, Southampton and Newcastle – not in fear of relegation but with nothing to play for.
Then there is a group of six teams jostling for a top four finish and a place in the Champions League.
How many of these teams would you call successful?
Everton or Bill Kenwright in this case has realised that Everton as a football club need to move onto the final level of Premiership football and that level is Champions League football and that is why he has employed RM who has promised them just that! They don’t really have the money to compete though and even if they finished 4th I think they would struggle just like they did last time they qualified for it ! They will never attract the bigger names out there in Europe because they are not that fashionable type of club like the proverbial ‘Big 4’ which for me is still Liverpool,Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal. City have bought their way into elite status but have yet to win the coveted Champions League trophy and even though Arsenal haven’t won said trophy they have had success in Europe and have plenty of league titles and FA Cup winners( Not champions ! )to their name ! So in answer to your question ( Not that you didn’t already know ) not many teams in the Prem are successful but then not many have lingered in the top flight for so long and not won anything hardly. Arsenal have a similar claim to Everton as regards to top flight football and they have won a lot more silverware ! Everton will always be the proverbial bridesmaids in my view !
Bill Kenwright needed a new manager. He appointed Roberto because he had a good record of managing with limited resources.
Premier League wage bills for 2012/13 should be published soon – but looking at those for 2011/12, Arsenal had a wage bill of £144 million. Everton’s was £62 million, less than half of Arsenal’s.
Arsenal had the fourth highest wage bill. They should be challenging for the championship regularly – and winning it from time to time. But haven’t won any trophy at all since the FA Cup nine years ago.
Everton came mid-table in the list of wage bills. For them, to finish higher than that in the League table is success.
So Everton lag far behind Arsenal, both financially and in their potential to win trophies. I wonder if Arsenal fans are happier than Everton fans.
Bill Kenwright needed a new manager. He appointed Roberto because he had a good record of managing with limited resources.Premier League wage bills for 2012/13 should be published soon – but looking at those for 2011/12, Arsenal had a wage bill of £144 million. Everton’s was £62 million, less than half of Arsenal’s.
Arsenal had the fourth highest wage bill. They should be challenging for the championship regularly – and winning it from time to time. But haven’t won any trophy at all since the FA Cup nine years ago.
Everton came mid-table in the list of wage bills. For them, to finish higher than that in the League table is success.
So Everton lag far behind Arsenal, both financially and in their potential to win trophies. I wonder if Arsenal fans are happier than Everton fans.
They looked happier the other Saturday ! I hope Hull beat them but I can’t see it to be honest ! If they finish 4th they will also be better equipped to progress in the Champions league than Everton will ! It’s a bit like us going up again, we sort of know deep down that we will probably struggle !
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