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One thing McClean can’t be accused of is hypocrisy. It was an uncomfortable but respectful display of disrespect to the British national anthem he finds so abhorrent.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brian-reade-column-james-mcclean-6117991
He has more faces than a town hall clock
Not too hate-filled to take the queen’s shilling
Good riddance
“The British” have done much to be proud of in the past but unfortunately they have also done much to be ashamed of as well. Ireland is one such place but there are many more, throughout the world, who were exploited and sometimes enslaved.
It is often forgotten (or not known) by people such as Mr McClean that the British working classes have also suffered terribly at the hands of the ruling classes in their pursuit of wealth and power. I am not saying that we suffered nearly as much as the Irish, Africans, Indians et al but what I am saying is that the people responsible for these past outrages are long gone and we that remain have learned the lessons of history. I would like to think that the present day British regret the past and would like to move on in friendship and mutual understanding.
I said in a previous post that James McClean was only guilty of being ill-mannered but, with hindsight, it is worse than that. He is obviously so bitter that it is all consuming and he cannot move on to create a better future for his and our children. His bitterness is causing him to pick fights with people who are not his enemies but those who wish to be his friends.
”The British” have done much to be proud of in the past but unfortunately they have also done much to be ashamed of as well. Ireland is one such place but there are many more, throughout the world, who were exploited and sometimes enslaved.It is often forgotten (or not known) by people such as Mr McClean that the British working classes have also suffered terribly at the hands of the ruling classes in their pursuit of wealth and power. I am not saying that we suffered nearly as much as the Irish, Africans, Indians et al but what I am saying is that the people responsible for these past outrages are long gone and we that remain have learned the lessons of history. I would like to think that the present day British regret the past and would like to move on in friendship and mutual understanding.
I said in a previous post that James McClean was only guilty of being ill-mannered but, with hindsight, it is worse than that. He is obviously so bitter that it is all consuming and he cannot move on to create a better future for his and our children. His bitterness is causing him to pick fights with people who are not his enemies but those who wish to be his friends.
Servile, sycophantic, patronising drivel.
If Unsworth doesn’t know what the Queen’s Shilling is then perhaps you don’t know the meaning of servile, sycophantic or patronising Sammy. You could be right with drivel.
If you weren’t just using those words to prove how clever you are, then show me where they apply so I can learn the errors of my ways.
All I was trying to say was that when all these problems were created, I wasn’t even born and people like me and you didn’t even have a vote. It’s time to move on.
OWD GIT SAID “It is often forgotten (or not known) by people such as Mr McClean that the British working classes have also suffered terribly at the hands of the ruling classes in their pursuit of wealth and power”.
“Have also suffered”. Maybe the past tense is accurate, but lets not forget the present.
With this shower in at present all these people, the British working classes ARE AND WILL also suffeR terribly at the hands of the ruling classes in their pursuit of wealth and power.
If Unsworth doesn’t know what the Queen’s Shilling is then perhaps you don’t know the meaning of servile, sycophantic or patronising Sammy. You could be right with drivel.If you weren’t just using those words to prove how clever you are, then show me where they apply so I can learn the errors of my ways.
All I was trying to say was that when all these problems were created, I wasn’t even born and people like me and you didn’t even have a vote. It’s time to move on.
what I am saying is that the people responsible for these past outrages are long gone and we that remain have learned the lessons of history. I would like to think that the present day British regret the past and would like to move on in friendship and mutual understanding.Only to be replaced by people carrying out further outrages in places such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria so I’m struggling to understand how “we” regret the past and have learned the lessons of history as if I – or you for that matter – have anything to regret, learn or be ashamed about.
Sammy, at the risk of disappointing myself at feeling the need to reply to your antagonisms, here goes….
I was being ironic, tongue-in-cheek, as they say. Queen’s shilling, King’s shilling was indeed reward for serving britain in the troubles of conflict. This is something mclean makes large of ( constantly). The irony being that he resides in said britain and is the servant of largely british, protestant, areas / clubs.
Ergo, he’s a bit of a confabulator ( really). I contend that he gets his kicks out of being controversial. Allegedly (sic)
Sammy, be a friendly chap won’t you. This isn’t really the forum for such as your good self giving it the intellectual large. But, hey, crack on.
For my part i have simply put my point of view over, without wishing to offend other Latics fans.
McClean is a British national earning his living in the country of his birth. He is employed in the private sector so I fail to see how he is somehow a servant of the people, protestant or otherwise, or can be accused of taking the Queen’s shilling.
Maybe you should complain to the moderators about starting threads of this kind if you think this forum isn’t really the place for such debate but I doubt George would be all that interested.
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