Just sack him

I know everyone’s harking on about “NO FORWARD AGAIN ??” but if we can stop defending like an half pissed Sunday League team we just might beat the drop. We could have easily won 3 games out our last 10 1-0 if the team as a whole defended “as a team”.

Everytime a team attack regardless who they are I’m on pins waiting for a mistake. Perch on Saturday had no idea how to deal with the blonde lad rushin in on him everytime he was given the ball from Carson.

Boyce looked a shadow of himself resorting to the long punt up field rather than bringing the ball out.

I’ll say it and say it again !! 5 across the back , 3 centre halfs and stop leaking childish goals. Even without a forward and playing poor were still always likely to nick the odd goal here and there just like the Rotherham game.

I’m not harsed about pretty football just 3 points will do no matter how it comes but if we don’t sort the back line out nothing will stop us from going down.
We won’t stay up on goals scored that’s for sure, it will be goals not conceded 1 clean sheet in 10 just isn’t good enough.
Rotherham on the otherhand don’t score too many goals themselves. Before Saturday’s game the had only conceded 2 goals in their last 5 games with a couple of 0-0’s thrown in something we need to copy.

With regards to this thread topic do you really think sacking managers is the way to go? Three managers in less than one year, increasingly woeful performances under all three yet sacking managers is the solution to the problem?

This situation is reminiscent of the team Jewell inherited except back then there was the will, desire and finances to change things. Much more difficult to halt the slide on the way down with the money drying up. And of course we have the added problem, as SW said, of being perceived as a poorly supported, racist club who don’t pay very well. Do you think the club is in a position to gamble again on a 32 year-old forward on a £28k per week contract for three years?

This team is a mismatch of ageing players, cast-offs and those who are just not good enough. A major restructure is required. A difficult proposition for any club but a desperate one for Wigan Athletic.

There shouldn’t even be a need to bring anyone in. I bet our relegation rivals must envy some of the players we have.
A world cup playing left back out on loan in Tenerife.
A proven goal scorer out on loan at Huddersfield.
One of the main stars in Scotland’s revival.
A Welsh international youngster.
Another world cup playing midfielder.
A Danish international.
A right sided midfielder with so much natural talent.
Scotland’s captain for years.
Even young Tavernier who can not get in our shambles would walk back in with open arms to the Rotherham side who out played us on Saturday.

And regarding a good few of those players you’ve just proved my point.

We can all speculate on here how the team should be set up and who should play.
Nothing wrong with that, it’s what this forum is for. However, we aren’t professional football managers – badges and all – and don’t see the players day in day out in training, which makes our views considerably less valid.

I don’t know what Mackay is trying to do either by playing McClean in the position he was on Saturday. Maybe Mackay thinks the options he has at his disposal aren’t any better and from what I’ve seen so far can’t argue with that. The thing is we are also giving daft goals away and the options at the back are equally disappointing. Barnett is embarrassingly poor, Boyce struggling and Ramis will only ever be a part-time player because of his injuries. I really can see Caldwell ever putting a Wigan shirt on again but even if he did he won’t be hitting the ground running. It a mess and I’m not sure whatever manager you bring in will fare any better with the players we’ve got.

I still don’t think playing two up front is the answer – and certainly not if we’re playing four in midfield.

I can understand (in theory) why McClean is being started up front – because he will chase defenders down and pressurise them into mistakes or win the ball from them, and with his pace, if the ball is played through gaps in the middle or to his feet in space, he’ll out-sprint most defenders.

The problem on Saturday was, the midfield didn’t have enough of a grip on the game to create those chances, and half the balls played forwards were at McClean’s head.

Saying that though, I thought Fortune played well when he came on, and there was a marked improvement in the team.