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I think the blame lies with DW ! I also think that a few players were not happy with his decision to bring in MM and also his pathetic attempt to defend him! There is trouble right through the camp and I reckon DW has lost the respect of some of the players!Obviously just my opinion but there is something seriously amiss!
How on earth could you possibly know that? And as most of these players’ perfomances were just as abject under Rosler, why would you make that leap?[/quote]
I don’t know, that is why I said “I think” and “Obviously just my opinion” ! With hindsight ( And there are many who would say ” I told you so” )it would appear that the appointment of MM has been a massive faux pas! The blame therefore lies with the person who chose him and then employed him does it not? As for the Rosler business, I said in an earlier post it is possible that Rosler ended up being resented by some players and that the appointment of MM could have been met with disapproval by some players who may have made their feelings known? Who knows, but something is seriously amiss and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come to that conclusion![/quote]
Not being funny fil but Malky was the overwhelming favourite with most on here before his appointment so don’t just blame Mr Whelan for it not being an instant success. He did what he thought was best for the club and who knows he may well yet be proved right. Changes must be made though and now.[/quote]
I did use the word ‘Hindsight’ ! However, there were people who feared that the appointment could backfire! In other words, with the benefit of hindsight (And I am not referring to the shite form)perhaps employing him was a bad move! I don’t know what is going on behind closed doors but there is something going on! I am just trying to make sense of it all because a combination of our squad and MM should not be performing so bad![/quote]
A combination of our squad and Coyle, our squad and Rosler, our squad and Mackay shouldn’t have been performing as bad as they did/have. Where’s the common denominator there? Oh look, it’s the squad. Go figure!
And if the poor, pampered prima donnas are a tad offended by some text messages, I’d suggest they are very quikcly reminded who is the boss and who pays their wages.[/quote]
“Go figure” ! I’m English Griff not American! You may have been working in an office environment too long man! Do you use the term ” You do the math” as well? It’s not that long ago that you were calling so called office talk! ;) Anyway, back to the subject. What do you think is the problem then, because all I see you do is shoot people down who make suggestions as to what is wrong, without actually offering any opinions of your own? If you think the squad is that bad that we should go down then just say so. Come on man, get involved in the “Think tank” ! Happy Christmas ! :)
So only me and filmoss would say the general feeling of the club has gone downhill since Malkys appointment?
Deluded. Get a vote up.
Right now, from out of work managers I’d approach Pulis. The likelihood is he’d turn us down and/or he’d be too rich for Whelan but what price success? We’ve probably already paid out more in compo to Coyle, Rosler and bad publicity surrounding Malky.
Realistic Whelan selection, Adkins, though I wouldn’t be overly keen.
From who is out there and realistic, Tim Sherwood I suppose. Spent a lot of time round these parts with Blackburn and is a massive motivator. I think he’d fit.
I think the blame lies with DW ! I also think that a few players were not happy with his decision to bring in MM and also his pathetic attempt to defend him! There is trouble right through the camp and I reckon DW has lost the respect of some of the players!Obviously just my opinion but there is something seriously amiss!
How on earth could you possibly know that? And as most of these players’ perfomances were just as abject under Rosler, why would you make that leap?[/quote]
I don’t know, that is why I said “I think” and “Obviously just my opinion” ! With hindsight ( And there are many who would say ” I told you so” )it would appear that the appointment of MM has been a massive faux pas! The blame therefore lies with the person who chose him and then employed him does it not? As for the Rosler business, I said in an earlier post it is possible that Rosler ended up being resented by some players and that the appointment of MM could have been met with disapproval by some players who may have made their feelings known? Who knows, but something is seriously amiss and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come to that conclusion![/quote]
Not being funny fil but Malky was the overwhelming favourite with most on here before his appointment so don’t just blame Mr Whelan for it not being an instant success. He did what he thought was best for the club and who knows he may well yet be proved right. Changes must be made though and now.[/quote]
I did use the word ‘Hindsight’ ! However, there were people who feared that the appointment could backfire! In other words, with the benefit of hindsight (And I am not referring to the shite form)perhaps employing him was a bad move! I don’t know what is going on behind closed doors but there is something going on! I am just trying to make sense of it all because a combination of our squad and MM should not be performing so bad![/quote]
A combination of our squad and Coyle, our squad and Rosler, our squad and Mackay shouldn’t have been performing as bad as they did/have. Where’s the common denominator there? Oh look, it’s the squad. Go figure!
And if the poor, pampered prima donnas are a tad offended by some text messages, I’d suggest they are very quikcly reminded who is the boss and who pays their wages.[/quote]
“Go figure” ! I’m English Griff not American! You may have been working in an office environment too long man! Do you use the term ” You do the math” as well? It’s not that long ago that you were calling so called office talk! ;) Anyway, back to the subject. What do you think is the problem then, because all I see you do is shoot people down who make suggestions as to what is wrong, without actually offering any opinions of your own? If you think the squad is that bad that we should go down then just say so. Come on man, get involved in the “Think tank” ! Happy Christmas ! :)[/quote]
A number of players in that squad do not want to be here and that rubs off on others. The answer is to see what Mackay can do in the transfer window, especially in getting rid of those bad apples. It might be too late already, but that definitely is NOT Mackay’s fault. very hard to totally transform a squad in January, but he needs to pick 16 or 18 he wants (from within or the market) and either try to offload the rest or freeze the out completely. I think Holt is nailed on to be in his team come January 3rd, by the way.
And if you want names of players who don’t want to be here, I know for a FACT (and I rarely use that term) that Maloney wants to leave and is sulking and beign a big girl and I strongly suspect Ramis is another one. There are probably more who were here before Mackay’s time who don’t want to be here for various reasons, none of which probably involve Mackay.
And don’t ask me how I know it for a fact, but it hasn’t come from where you might think it has, Phil. I never get anything from there!
Anyway, you lot carry on tearing yourselves up about a football club. I’m off to enjoy my Christmas break with my family. I suggest you all do the same.
Merry Christmas to you, and I mean everybody! ;)
PS, Adkins – not a bad shout. But many of those players will still not want to be here and play for him either. Deluded? Don’t think so.
Over and out
I think Holt is nailed on to be in his team come January 3rd, by the way.
Merry Christmas to you, and I mean everybody! ;)
There you go, 2 things we agree on.
All the best.
I think the blame lies with DW ! I also think that a few players were not happy with his decision to bring in MM and also his pathetic attempt to defend him! There is trouble right through the camp and I reckon DW has lost the respect of some of the players!Obviously just my opinion but there is something seriously amiss!
How on earth could you possibly know that? And as most of these players’ perfomances were just as abject under Rosler, why would you make that leap?[/quote]
I don’t know, that is why I said “I think” and “Obviously just my opinion” ! With hindsight ( And there are many who would say ” I told you so” )it would appear that the appointment of MM has been a massive faux pas! The blame therefore lies with the person who chose him and then employed him does it not? As for the Rosler business, I said in an earlier post it is possible that Rosler ended up being resented by some players and that the appointment of MM could have been met with disapproval by some players who may have made their feelings known? Who knows, but something is seriously amiss and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to come to that conclusion![/quote]
Not being funny fil but Malky was the overwhelming favourite with most on here before his appointment so don’t just blame Mr Whelan for it not being an instant success. He did what he thought was best for the club and who knows he may well yet be proved right. Changes must be made though and now.[/quote]
I did use the word ‘Hindsight’ ! However, there were people who feared that the appointment could backfire! In other words, with the benefit of hindsight (And I am not referring to the shite form)perhaps employing him was a bad move! I don’t know what is going on behind closed doors but there is something going on! I am just trying to make sense of it all because a combination of our squad and MM should not be performing so bad![/quote]
A combination of our squad and Coyle, our squad and Rosler, our squad and Mackay shouldn’t have been performing as bad as they did/have. Where’s the common denominator there? Oh look, it’s the squad. Go figure!
And if the poor, pampered prima donnas are a tad offended by some text messages, I’d suggest they are very quikcly reminded who is the boss and who pays their wages.[/quote]
“Go figure” ! I’m English Griff not American! You may have been working in an office environment too long man! Do you use the term ” You do the math” as well? It’s not that long ago that you were calling so called office talk! ;) Anyway, back to the subject. What do you think is the problem then, because all I see you do is shoot people down who make suggestions as to what is wrong, without actually offering any opinions of your own? If you think the squad is that bad that we should go down then just say so. Come on man, get involved in the “Think tank” ! Happy Christmas ! :)[/quote]
A number of players in that squad do not want to be here and that rubs off on others. The answer is to see what Mackay can do in the transfer window, especially in getting rid of those bad apples. It might be too late already, but that definitely is NOT Mackay’s fault. very hard to totally transform a squad in January, but he needs to pick 16 or 18 he wants (from within or the market) and either try to offload the rest or freeze the out completely. I think Holt is nailed on to be in his team come January 3rd, by the way.
And if you want names of players who don’t want to be here, I know for a FACT (and I rarely use that term) that Maloney wants to leave and is sulking and beign a big girl and I strongly suspect Ramis is another one. There are probably more who were here before Mackay’s time who don’t want to be here for various reasons, none of which probably involve Mackay.
And don’t ask me how I know it for a fact, but it hasn’t come from where you might think it has, Phil. I never get anything from there!
Anyway, you lot carry on tearing yourselves up about a football club. I’m off to enjoy my Christmas break with my family. I suggest you all do the same.
Merry Christmas to you, and I mean everybody! ;)
PS, Adkins – not a bad shout. But many of those players will still not want to be here and play for him either. Deluded? Don’t think so.
Over and out[/quote]
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Merry Christmas everybody
So only me and filmoss would say the general feeling of the club has gone downhill since Malkys appointment?Deluded. Get a vote up.
Right now, from out of work managers I’d approach Pulis. The likelihood is he’d turn us down and/or he’d be too rich for Whelan but what price success? We’ve probably already paid out more in compo to Coyle, Rosler and bad publicity surrounding Malky.
Realistic Whelan selection, Adkins, though I wouldn’t be overly keen.
From who is out there and realistic, Tim Sherwood I suppose. Spent a lot of time round these parts with Blackburn and is a massive motivator. I think he’d fit.
Tez, you use the word deluded then mention Pulis as a replacement :ohmy:. We have a new manager who wanted the job unlike Pulis who could not find a bargepole long enough. At the present time SAF alongside Mourinho and Guardiola could not get this lot to perform and there is more chance of me getting blown by Kate Winslet than Pulis coming. Some of the players need to grow a pair instead of sulking and at least try for the man who is picking them.
All the best for xmas lets hope for a bit of good cheer Boxing Day, Jesus knows we all need it ;)
So only me and filmoss would say the general feeling of the club has gone downhill since Malkys appointment?
Deluded. Get a vote up.
Right now, from out of work managers I’d approach Pulis. The likelihood is he’d turn us down and/or he’d be too rich for Whelan but what price success? We’ve probably already paid out more in compo to Coyle, Rosler and bad publicity surrounding Malky.
Realistic Whelan selection, Adkins, though I wouldn’t be overly keen.
From who is out there and realistic, Tim Sherwood I suppose. Spent a lot of time round these parts with Blackburn and is a massive motivator. I think he’d fit.
Tez, you use the word deluded then mention Pulis as a replacement :ohmy:. We have a new manager who wanted the job unlike Pulis who could not find a bargepole long enough. At the present time SAF alongside Mourinho and Guardiola could not get this lot to perform and there is more chance of me getting blown by Kate Winslet than Pulis coming. Some of the players need to grow a pair instead of sulking and at least try for the man who is picking them.
All the best for xmas lets hope for a bit of good cheer Boxing Day, Jesus knows we all need it ;)[/quote]Well said Nuneaton Tic.Merry Xmas everyone.
So only me and filmoss would say the general feeling of the club has gone downhill since Malkys appointment?
Deluded. Get a vote up.
Right now, from out of work managers I’d approach Pulis. The likelihood is he’d turn us down and/or he’d be too rich for Whelan but what price success? We’ve probably already paid out more in compo to Coyle, Rosler and bad publicity surrounding Malky.
Realistic Whelan selection, Adkins, though I wouldn’t be overly keen.
From who is out there and realistic, Tim Sherwood I suppose. Spent a lot of time round these parts with Blackburn and is a massive motivator. I think he’d fit.
Tez, you use the word deluded then mention Pulis as a replacement :ohmy:. We have a new manager who wanted the job unlike Pulis who could not find a bargepole long enough. At the present time SAF alongside Mourinho and Guardiola could not get this lot to perform and there is more chance of me getting blown by Kate Winslet than Pulis coming. Some of the players need to grow a pair instead of sulking and at least try for the man who is picking them.
This shouldn’t have been difficult.
Deluded, in response to only me and filmoss thinking the feeling at the club had worsened since Malay.
I thought I’d qualified why I didn’t think Pulis would come despite me thinking he had been right man for the job.I want to say more with a bottle of abelour in me but I wont. Merry Christmas, hoping for 3 points tomorrow, needless to say I wont be there for the first Boxing Day in as long as ever.
All the best for xmas lets hope for a bit of good cheer Boxing Day, Jesus knows we all need it ;)[/quote]
Nothing’s changed?Nothing’s changed? Well, the transfer window is open which it wasn’t before. And we’ve shifted out one shit striker already with just one more to go now ;)
Nothing’s changed?
Nothing’s changed? Well, the transfer window is open which it wasn’t before. And we’ve shifted out one shit striker already with just one more to go now ;)[/quote]
Why, wheres Fortune going to ?
Nothing’s changed?
Nothing’s changed? Well, the transfer window is open which it wasn’t before. And we’ve shifted out one shit striker already with just one more to go now ;)[/quote]
Why, wheres Fortune going to ? ;-)[/quote]
He’s drivng Delort to the nearest airport.
The lads have had a whip-round for Delort’s leaving present and bought him a selfie-stick.
bumpjust for Griff, I like him when he’s angry :lol:
Did you really trawl through posts three months old just to make that point?
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