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After seeing it on MOTD Marriner didn’t know what had gone on. He had his back to the corner when Pederson started his run
We can blame the ref for allowing the goal all we want but the sad truth is we simply switched off yet again.These are highly paid professional footballers and should be able to focus for every minute during a game and play to the whistle.
But its the fault of the system and the reason we need electronic help like rugby, cricket, tennis, horse/dog racing & athletics(photo finish), even televised golf look to see if a player has addressed or moved the ball and F1 motor racing look at TV footage before a driver is given drive through penalties.
So why does the biggest, richest sport in the world still live in the last century.
I used to be all for replays until I saw the chubster refs getting RSI through drawing a square with their hands every time a try is scored. It’s the best and richest sport in the world, because of the quickness of the game and after match talking points. the other “sports” you have quoted are total micky mouse in comparison.
From Matlock to ManU
What a journey!Kean was referring to the Norwich game when he said swings and roundabouts ! There is no way on Earth was that a pen that Norwich got late on in that game ! If we cant keep a one goal advantage against 10 men then its piss poor in my opinion ! All these unfortunate decisions people keep moaning about were brought about due to incompetence end of !!
it cropped up when keane was asked if he thought the corner-goal should have stood the mention of the noewich penalties came afterwards.
this is what the reprt on skysports.com says :-The Blackburn boss felt that the controversial goal was karma balancing out.
Kean told Sky Sports: “I was surprised to see Morten running along the touchline with the ball but I thought Yak must have touched it when he placed the ball.
“Having said that I felt there were other little decisions like when they got the toe-poke goal, I felt as if the ball was rolling when Caldwell hit it.
“I thought the first goal was off-side. So we got a decision but a few went against us.”
I agree with Filmoss.
Nobody seems to be mentioning that Marriner was shoite for both teams…Our first Sammon was stood in an offside position interferring with play, and for Crusats goal Caldwell hit the free kick forward whilst it was still rolling.
Learn to deal with it people, we are the 20th best team in the Football league.
But its the fault of the system and the reason we need electronic help like rugby, cricket, tennis, horse/dog racing & athletics(photo finish), even televised golf look to see if a player has addressed or moved the ball and F1 motor racing look at TV footage before a driver is given drive through penalties.
So why does the biggest, richest sport in the world still live in the last century.
I used to be all for replays until I saw the chubster refs getting RSI through drawing a square with their hands every time a try is scored. It’s the best and richest sport in the world, because of the quickness of the game and after match talking points. the other “sports” you have quoted are total micky mouse in comparison.
I agree with your reasons for not changing it, but yesterday showed there are arguements both ways for this issue, but if we want things to stay the same, for the reasons you state then fans on here cannot say it was cheating and managers cant say its scandalous when things go against them, we cant have it both ways.
Kean is absolutely spot on. Bobby can talk all he wants about Latics not getting decisions & the likes of jayt can claim “we keep getting robbed” all they like
Blackburn’s second goal shouldn’t have stood, there’s no doubt about it. But the ref had his back to the corner (& his positioning is exactly where ref’s are told to stand for corners) & if he doesn’t see it then he can’t give it. And yes, Latics should have had a penalty although to be fair I didn’t think it was one at the time
But in the very same game Latics 1st goal should have been disallowed for offside as Sammon was directly in Robinson’s view of the flight of the ball & the ball was still moving when Caldwell took the free kick that led to Crusat’s goal.
Blaming the ref is just shifting the blame coz yet again the team wasn’t good enough to beat a fellow relegation rival & this time one who played for 40 minutes with 10 men. If Bobby genuinely believes it was the ref’s fault we lost then it just prevents him addressing the real problems at Latics
Prior to the corner for the dubious goal Caldwell was attempting to shield the ball out for a goalkick when yakubu Ithink pushed him in the back causing the said corner
But in the very same game Latics 1st goal should have been disallowed for offside as Sammon was directly in Robinson’s view of the flight of the ballGoals get given for that all the time. Unless you make an attempt for the ball you don’t get flagged. (which imo is wrong)
I also didn’t think it was a penalty at the time, but the ref was stood a matter of yards away with a perfect view. Terrible call.
But in the very same game Latics 1st goal should have been disallowed for offside as Sammon was directly in Robinson’s view of the flight of the ball
Goals get given for that all the time. Unless you make an attempt for the ball you don’t get flagged. (which imo is wrong)
I also didn’t think it was a penalty at the time, but the ref was stood a matter of yards away with a perfect view. Terrible call.[/quote]
I’m not saying that don’t get given for that all the time but I’m saying that in that situation (as was explained to me in a pre-season meeting held by the FA) is that as an assistant referee if you see an attacking player in an offside position & (coz you only have a 2D view looking at it from the side) but its clear that they are in the mix so to speak (as opposed to being out on one of the flanks & in an offside position) then you need to flag, call the referee over &, in this situation, explain that Sammon was in an offside position but you can’t tell if he was obstructing the keepers view & the ref (who should have had the face on view) can make that decision.
The player in the offside position doesn’t have to be making any attempt to play the ball but just be seeking to or actually gaining an advantage by being in an offside position. I recently flagged for offside in the last minute of an FA Vase game for a virtually identical situation, the ref disallowed it & the assessor said we got it spot on. The away team’s supporters who were stood right behind me didn’t quite think the same (it would have been a winning goal)!!!I agree with you about the penalty – I was in the east stand dead in line with the challenge & thought Moses dived & whilst i still think he made a meal of it (which may have influenced the ref) Marriner was in a perfect position & made a terrible call
But in the very same game Latics 1st goal should have been disallowed for offside as Sammon was directly in Robinson’s view of the flight of the ball
Goals get given for that all the time. Unless you make an attempt for the ball you don’t get flagged. (which imo is wrong)
I also didn’t think it was a penalty at the time, but the ref was stood a matter of yards away with a perfect view. Terrible call.[/quote]
Sammon was in an offside position but you can’t tell if he was obstructing the keepers view & the ref (who should have had the face on view) can make that decision.
The player in the offside position doesn’t have to be making any attempt to play the ball but just be seeking to or actually gaining an advantage by being in an offside position
[/quote]Are you saying that is how the rules reads, if it does then sammon was not offside then – because he was where he was because of his intiial run and was attempting to get back onside when gomez shot, looking at replays of the goal yesterday, it looked like he distracted robinson as opposed to blocking the shot from view and robinsons complaints afterwards seemed to me to be aimed at his defenders not the referee.
The law on offside is that a player in an offside position is only penalised if at the moment the ball touches or is played by a team mate he is,in the opinion of the referee, in active play by:
– interfering with play
– interfering with an opponent
– gaining an advantage by being in that positionI’ve got the shot from Gomez on freeze frame on my PC at the moment & when Gomez shoots, Stam & Sammon are in offside positions.
Stam isn’t any of the above 3 example coz he’s stood right in front of the liner
Sammon is on the edge of the 6 yard box directly in Robinson’s line of vision & in the line of the flight of the ball so to me all 3 of the examples above apply to him & he should have been penalised.
I’m glad he wasn’t but I’m just using it to show that whereas Latics were skanked for Blackburn’s second the officials made mistakes that benefitted Latics tooYes i understand why you come to that conclusion, but if you look from behind the goals or indeed from robinsons own position, sammon is to robinsons right and gomez and the balls path to his left and i would say he is more unsighted from his own players than being impeded in any way from sammon.
In defence of the referee his view of it, from where i assume he was positioned, would be the mirror image and he would only see sammon out to robinsons left and not interfering – although I doubt it never came into question because the linesman never lifted a flag, and from his point of view at the side, he would only see sammon moving away from the goal.This is another decision that probably can only be confirmed by TV replay and keane would have no grounds at the time, other than it going against, him to legitimately claim it was offside.
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